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    Vacuum Advance Question

    Are the two diaphrams completely separate? Right now if I pull the hose off of diaphram B (cold start advance line) vacuum is being pulled through the nipple from the hose connected on diaphram A. There is still advance function even though it "seeps" vacuum. Is my advance unit shot?
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Quote Originally Posted by ArkyHog88 View Post
    Are the two diaphrams completely separate? Right now if I pull the hose off of diaphram B (cold start advance line) vacuum is being pulled through the nipple from the hose connected on diaphram A. There is still advance function even though it "seeps" vacuum. Is my advance unit shot?
    Yep

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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Thanks man. Damn, looks like I'll be headed to the yard to find a dizzy.
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Quote Originally Posted by ArkyHog88 View Post
    Thanks man. Damn, looks like I'll be headed to the yard to find a dizzy.
    you should be able to buy just the advance new

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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Yeah, I wouldn't mess with any junkyard distributors/parts for these cars. The things just wear out.

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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Hee hee! I'm running a junkyard advance diaphragm right now! Of course, if I could have found a new one, I would have bought it instead.
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    - llia


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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Thanks for the pic that's dedication right there ha! As far as the yard goes, I've got a pretty good source for parts here where I'm at. He's only charging me $40 for the entire dizzy. A new vac unit costs about 60 bucks plus I'll have some spare parts. I'll prob go ahead and give the yard unit a shot. Thanks for the help guys!
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    I'll melt my car down to it's base metals if it helps fix someones car.
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    I believe that!
    Hey sometimes you luck up on a "new" distributor in the junk yards, among other recently replaced parts before the car found it's way to the yurd.

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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Went to the yard and found a unit but it had a leak also. After looking the past couple of weeks I have found that they have quit making new vac advance units for us Lxi guys.

    I really, really don't want to buy a whole new dizzy. Looks like I'll be making a post in the wanted section...
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    You could try cleaning out the distributor and lube up the centrifugal advance as well as the advance mechanism the vacuum motors pull. This would make it easier moving so the issue of the diaphragm plunger cocking sideways inside, in case it is only intermittently leaking down, would be helped.
    That is only if the diaphragm isn't completely busted in which case replace it.

    It's a shot in the dark but I have seen it work, being optimistic.

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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Thanks for the tip man but it's a fairly significant leak between the two chambers.
    I had already cleaned the centrifugal advance because it was completely frozen. It works great now, if I could just get the diaphram situation taken care of.
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Have you tried Rock Auto for the diaphragm? It looks like they have heaps of them.
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Yeah man unfortunately their listing was off. After I tried to order one they realized no one is manufacturing them anymore for EFI setups. They called me and told me none of their suppliers had them anymore. I've noticed since then they took the EFI part numbers off the listing. All of the EFI diaphrams are clocked differently even though some look the same as carb'd versions. You end up with the hoses pointing down towards bellhousing. I did manage to finally find a NOS piece on Ebay though.

    My advice is that if you come across one, you better grab it up because they're getting rare.
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Good to know. I scavenged my current one from the junkyard. There are those guys selling new TEC distributors on eBay with the diaphragm included. I wonder if they would sell a diaphragm separately.
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Quote Originally Posted by ArkyHog88 View Post
    My advice is that if you come across one, you better grab it up because they're getting rare.
    Mine is also running from a jy unit.... I'd better get a spare then.
    If it ain't broke... I fix it!

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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    There are those guys selling new TEC distributors on eBay with the diaphragm included. I wonder if they would sell a diaphragm separately.
    I was thinking the same thing. You can get rebuilt TEC units at local parts houses too. Either Cardone has a stash built up or someone is making them over seas possibly. Couldn't see spending around $250 for just a vac unit though, haha!
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    Re: Vacuum Advance Question

    I couldn't see spending $250 on anything from Cardone. LOL
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