Hungarian hatchback 1983

[Turan6]

Hi all!

Some days before I bought this accord with another spare part car. (Video linked)
This is an european version with 1601 ccm engine. ( I need service manual in pdf if anybody have)
The early second gen. accords are very rare type in europe.

As you see it has lots of problem. Fortunately these parts on the spare car are good.
I would like to restore until 11.2015. because the MOT will expire on that time.
At first I tried to repair the electric antenna on the roof but i can't remove the inside carpet. :( I worried about wrack.
Anyway, this car is amazing and good to belong to this club.
/Sorry for my bad english/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHdei76ERhY&feature=youtu.be

[Turan6]

Lots of Mk2 brochures:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/63416089@N06/collections/72157631043618436/

[2ndGenGuy]

Wow man. That is a clean looking car! Shame about the rust though. Are you planning on stripping off all the paint and getting rid of the rust? You have got your work cut out for you. Good luck! Welcome to the site!

Post more updates as you work on it. :) Would love to see your progress!

[Turan6]

Thank You 2ndGenGuy! As I see you are a strong point in the club and evryone has a kind word.
Yesterday I took it to car mechanic changing oil, filters,belts.
He cloncuded it some shaft and suspension exchange necessary.(Crackle on bend)
Next year I will bring the spare car (from 300 Km - about 187 Miles) and will be replaced if possible.
Of course I replace the two fender arch and try to repaint to the original color whole car.

Other: I dont know why all kind of classic hondas ('70 and early '80s) cheaper like other japanese cars (Datsun, Mitsubishi, Mazda) here in Europe.
My first dream was a very rare 1977 Datsun 120y coupe, but the cheapest was 2300 Euro (3000 USD) in Polland (625 miles faar from Hungary).
I bought this accord in my country about 750 USD :) + 370 USD spare car ! I dont regret my decision however avaible more parts on the shop and cheaper. It can also satisfies my japanese oldtimer obsession. :)
only one litle thing : - would have been nice a rear wheel drive.... :)

I will update this thread if happens something!

[Turan6]

I found an another co-brand in my country!
Here is his blog:
JDM Jinsei (http://jdmjinsei.blogspot.hu/search?updated-max=2011-02-22T21:58:00%2B01:00&max-results=6&reverse-paginate=true)
on the bottom: újabb bejegyzések=new posts régebbi bejegyzések=older posts, tovább olvasom=continue reading

His car was on the "rozsdakupac" magazin in 2012.
Banpei.net Magazines: Honda Accord in Rozsdakupac » Uncategorized » Banpei.net (http://www.banpei.net/2012/01/31/magazines-honda-accord-in-rozsdakupac)

Unfortunately he sold his car and started a subaru project :(
I will try to find the buyer who has 3 of same , allegedly. (First the new bought, second to daily using, third to spare)

I count my known hatchback. 8 so far. In my opinion here are maybe about 20 or maximum 30 piece of it.

[Dr_Snooz]

Cool! Welcome!

[Turan6]

"New" ATS alloy wheels arrived ! I think these are authentic.

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/140913/P1010004_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/140913/P1010007_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

[Turan6]

Hi all!
I found a digital speedometer on ebay for 2.gen. accord!
Honda Accord 1984 Digital Speedometer for Spare Parts | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/honda-accord-1984-digital-speedometer-for-spare-parts-/140422023136)
It's too expensive to me but if somebody would like to owning an unique parts here is the chance!
Good luck!

[Turan6]

Someone could send to me an 1983 accord repair manual in pdf format?
1983 Honda Accord Factory Service Manual – Hatchback Sedan Original Shop Repair | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-Honda-Accord-Factory-Service-Manual-Hatchback-Sedan-Original-Shop-Repair-/331184215632?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item4d1c1e1650&vxp=mtr)
If i buy on ebay than the shipping is more expensive like the book :(

I need help to remove front side - up and down - molding.....and much more
Thank you all!

[Dr_Snooz]

Here are the manuals we have: Honda service manuals - The 3geez Wiki (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Honda_service_manuals)

We don't have an '83, but the '85 might work for your needs. If you want to buy the '83 manual and scan it, let me know and we'll post it with the others.

[Turan6]

I only have 1983 repair manual from engine only (in german language :) I dont understand :)) , but i mostly need body assembly.
The link of 85 service manual is not working. Could you reload the file?
Thank You!

[Dr_Snooz]

Looks like we lost our host on that one. I'm reuploading right now. Should be available in about a half hour.

[Dr_Snooz]

Well, the wiki has been fighting me for the last half hour, so F it. I will PM you with a link to the file.

[Turan6]

I bought a car stereo like this:
Kenwood KRC-300D Vintage 80s Rare Cassette Car Stereo Renault GT Toyota Datsun | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kenwood-KRC-300D-Vintage-80s-Rare-Cassette-Car-Stereo-Renault-GT-Toyota-Datsun-/301333488426?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item4628e0232a)
This is from that era. As I know the relase date 1983.
The orange color button of the radio is same color like right next temperature adjuster :) (fit together)
I can't found original Honda stereo. In Germany (where from arrived these car to Hungary) the original radio equipment was "Blaupunkt Coburg M21".

[Turan6]

Have you seen this?
:)
Down On The Mile High Street: Baffling Honda Accord Pickup - The Truth About Cars (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/06/down-on-the-mile-high-street-baffling-honda-accord-pickup/)

[Tdurr]

Thats pretty sweet!

[Turan6]

Naked seat:
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141102/IMG_20141102_222824_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141102/IMG_20141102_222246_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

Next, I need to buy liquid sponge for repair.

Washed and clean seat carpet is waitig for re-installation:
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141102/IMG_20141102_222854_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

Left and right Foot Board door sill,, waiting for installation: (4 door version, need modification)
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141102/IMG_20141102_223100_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

Without carpets:
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141102/IMG_20141028_121946_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

[2geeSEi]

Those wheels will look awesome on that car!

[Turan6]

Yes I thik so :) Thank You!
Late 70's , early 80's BMW style..
I can't mount because I still waiting for polisher.Lazy man, always promise next week. :(

[Turan6]

Stripes plan:
(Using a litle typical japanese late 70's (red-orange-yellow) colors.
These give my inspiration:

[Dr_Snooz]

Sporty!

[Turan6]

Working in the kitchen:

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141108/IMG_ules1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141108/ules2_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141108/ules3_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141108/ajto1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141108/ajto2_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141108/ajto3_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141108/ajto4_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141108/ajto5_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

[Dr_Snooz]

I wonder if that seat is going to sit funky with some of the foam being old and tired. Let us know please.

I love watching this project unfold.

[Turan6]

Seat :
At first i had to hold up left side with old t-shirt.:) I used upholsterer's foam-glue.
Than I started to use Flex-foam.
The upholsterers also using this pourable foam.
Autó ülések restaurálása (http://www.autokarpitozas.hu/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=39&Itemid=79)
It has diferent strong. I used X. strong level.
This material surface is more harder like the original seat foam, so i cut with blade (Inside the purable foam is softer). Other hand, cut is necessary to forming the surface.
I feel a litle difference with two foam, and the flex-foam feel better.

Than I glued a thin level foam so as to starched carpet.This glue made it harder the original foam.
If this thin level will care with original carpet than i hope not will be old and tired.

At last I will rope some spring line under the foam for harder seat sense.

Door carpet:
Under the window I also change the foam. Now less wavy.
I found leather behind door-serge to change the armrest area.

(sorry for my english)

[Turan6]

Like a brand new :)
I'm satisfied !

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141111/keszules_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

[Dr_Snooz]

Very well done!

[2ndGenGuy]

Damn, that looks nice!

[Turan6]

LOL!
What a great idea :) check the video under this link:
Totalcar - Magazin - Filléres Neppertrükk: lökhárÃtófelújÃtás lángszóróval (http://totalcar.hu/magazin/technika/2014/11/22/a_tuz_csodakra_kepes/)
Only with "stabbing?!" flame works !!!!!! - with narrower (Don't use lighters, matches, candles or other)
First I will try a waste bumper part. :)
Would be great if it works....

"Stabbing flame" is rough translation. I dont know the right english word.

[Dr_Snooz]

I think the word you're looking for is "torch." Some people have had good luck with that approach. I tried a heat gun and it didn't do a whole lot. Acetone was pretty effective for me, but not long term. I'll probably end up painting mine.


...someday.

Let us know how it turns out.

[Turan6]

In that video he mentioned; heat gun is also not working!
The purpose is: you don't heat full plastic in deep, only the surface. This is the rason why necessary "fast" torch-flame. Supposedly this is long therm solution.
I also used aceton on door rubber molds after disassemble of course.Worked pretty well.

I will buy flame heater and report it.

[Turan6]

Beautiful hatch in beautiful color:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR7923lwNfQ

[pintail]

What a beautiful car! Just 6 left in the UK, wow!

[Turan6]

I saw somewhere here in the forum a factory description how to use the choke in -10 Celasius and etc.
There was a cold start guide.
Could anybody help me where can i find.

[Oldblueaccord]

Should be able to press the gas pedal down about 1/4 throttle then release. This should set the choke almost closed.

Foot OFF the gas pedal. No more gas pedal needed.

Crank the car. It should start and idle high when cold.

Pressing the gas pedal quickly will lower the idle and release more of the choke open.

A carbed car will need to run for 2-5 mins in that cold of weather if possible.

I'm trying to find a good you tube but there most of the people are doing it incorrectly and then there vehicle wont start!

EDIT:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwAuCS6psGg

[Turan6]

Thank You Oldblueaccord!
but my purpose to print myself that original scanned yellowed paper, what i saw somewhere here in the forum.

[Turan6]

What a beautiful wallpaper:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/63416089@N06/10519473623/sizes/h/

[Dr_Snooz]

:d

[Turan6]

Hi again! Could anybody show me a photo 2gen. hatchback rear end sideview without bumper? Thank you!

[Turan6]

Torch flame really works!
I had to use nitro thinner too because previous owner painted to black.
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/150115/P1010014_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

[Hazwan]

Nice work with the bumper!

[82hatch]

Heat gun also works, just don't let it get to hot or hold it to close or it will start to melt and drip. I used it on my 82 all the way around the plastic guards and bumpers.

[Turan6]

The first navigation has the 2.gen Honda accord. I think the operating principle was same like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOMXYHtMr4o
(at 2:10)

Interesting this 1971-72 coupe7 has same antenna like 15 years later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i_OsE-l7Xo

[Turan6]

Because I cant found 83' fenders and the '84 fenders are different the metalworkers have lot of works.



Right foot board sill replaced yet.

[Dr_Snooz]

Love your jackstands. :ugh2:

You're putting some real love into the car. Glad to see it.

[Turan6]

Did you know that?
(Height controll? =normal) in JDM version
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/150128/185660413_8_1000x700_prodam-hondu-akord-_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/150128/185660413_7_1000x700_prodam-hondu-akord-_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

[Turan6]

Today i finished the polishing of the second alloy wheel.
Painting, lacquering later...
Before, after
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/150129/IMG_20150129_165958_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

[Turan6]

Left side is not the right side.
Under the surface:

[Turan6]

Anyone know what is the role of the pipe separator in fuel system?
Number 13. here:
OEM Honda Part 17721-SA6-316 | Separate Pipe (http://hondapartsnetwork.com/part/2830859/Honda-Part-17721-SA6-316-Separate-Pipe)

Cruumbled in my hands. I would like to know which pipe connected to which one and is there any connection (open hole) in common location? Maybe I can make up for something else. Fabricate one....
Thank you!

[Dr_Snooz]

Those are the lines that eventually supply the carb, right? There are a bunch of rubber lines that come out of the tank and connect to hard lines going to the front of the car. One goes to the fuel filters and then the carb. One goes to the charcoal canister. I don't know where the others go though. Can you be more specific as to what your issue is? I assume you have something rotted away that you're trying to re-connect but some pics or explanation would be helpful.

[Turan6]

Here is the picture of pipe separator.
2+2 pipes coming in the direction of fuel tank. In the end there are only 3 pipes. I dont know is there open hole (connection) in the common location or not.

[Dr_Snooz]

Well, I'm stumped.

[Turan6]

The fuel tank is divided into portions. When the liquid (fuel) is waving these pipes help to compensate. Air flows in them.

[Turan6]

Frankenstein

[Turan6]

Some renovated parts


http://kepfeltoltes.hu/150317/rebuild_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

[Turan6]

There is a fuel filter right next to fuel tank. In the engine bay was changed but here always forgotten. This care the fuel pump. Fortunately fuel pump is working fine. (Fuel pump is Mitsubishi brand - I dont know is it OEM or not?)
So here is a fuel filter inside after 32 years :)


http://kepfeltoltes.hu/150317/uzanyag_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu)

[Dr_Snooz]

Mitsubishi or Mitsuba?

[A20A1]

I think they are saying the extra tubes prevent vaporlock.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b351/Wendy_girl/IMG_20150323_201701_zpsabsx4xiq.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/Wendy_girl/media/IMG_20150323_201701_zpsabsx4xiq.jpg.html)

[Turan6]

You have right. Thank You! They gave me the wrong information about fuel tank and pipe-seperator.

[A20A1]

All that rust is sitting in the fuel tank too.

[Turan6]

When I removed the fuel tank tried to shake and pour out. The fuel was clean. There where no rust in it. If remained in few than the new fuel filter will solve.

[Turan6]

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Project finished finally :) I can't belive!
http://www.kephost.com/images/2016/07/15/P1010007.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/160715/P1010005_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

[Dr_Snooz]

That is super cool!! Congratulations!

[MessyHonda]

very nice

[79cord]

Great to see the result of your efforts; looks great!

[2ndGenGuy]

Wow beautiful!!! :D :D All around stellar looking car!

[Turan6]

Thank You guys!

[pintail]

Great car! Thanks for all of your help with mine!

It is great to see the final project.