finally got some pictures posted [Archive] - 3geez.com - Classic Honda Accord & Prelude Forum

Tim Yoak

12-20-2002, 11:55 PM

sorry about the cheap web cam,next batch will be in mpeg, and real film scanned onto a cd rom, much clearer. Thank you so much Lx-i girl for doing the post for me !:chainsaw: comments my new email adress is http://www.yahoomail.com/eightsixaccord For some reason it won't go directly through, but that's the adress

Coroncho80

12-21-2002, 08:25 PM

:lol :lol you have a mobil-phone in your DX .................. :lol

sorry

It looks good man!

88LXi68

12-21-2002, 08:31 PM

I wanna see the integra rear discs! :)

Tim Yoak

12-21-2002, 08:43 PM

Yea, I got one because i spend about 30000 miles a year on the road, Everything built in, the speaker is in the headliner, mike in the a pillar. I've got a digital, but that old nokia is great out in the middle of nowhere. I will post pictures of the rear discs later. they are the same as the optinal ones on the sei. the 88 integra even has the same master cyl. you do have to change the proportioning valve though, it bolts right in. the rear hubs were changed in 86 to a sealed bearing like the front, these are the same as the 88 integra.

88LXi68

12-21-2002, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Tim Yoak
Yea, I got one because i spend about 30000 miles a year on the road, Everything built in, the speaker is in the headliner, mike in the a pillar. I've got a digital, but that old nokia is great out in the middle of nowhere. I will post pictures of the rear discs later. they are the same as the optinal ones on the sei. the 88 integra even has the same master cyl. you do have to change the proportioning valve though, it bolts right in. the rear hubs were changed in 86 to a sealed bearing like the front, these are the same as the 88 integra.

Interesting! That would mean it would be MUCH easier to convert to rear-disc brakes b/c finding an SE-i is pretty hard. Definitely get some pics up.

Tim Yoak

12-22-2002, 12:45 AM

:cool: I figured it out by looking at the repair procedure for the 88 integra rs, and the 86 accord and it dawned on me that the rear hub carrier is the same for the integra rs rear drums as it was on the accord. You have to take the whole rear brake assembly off the integra. there is a plate on the suspension with four bolt holes, this is what the hub carrier bolts too, this is also what is the same on both cars. It is quite a job though. I believe that the rear disc assemble on the sei is the exact same one they put on the integra. remember that these cars the accord hb, and the first gen integra hb are very similar in some ways. they even look the same. just for the record the front rear weight balance on these two cars is exactly the same. The accord weighs more but the way the weight is distributed between front and rear is exactly the same. The first gen engine is almost the same output as an accord lxi too.

Tim Yoak

12-22-2002, 12:48 PM

All right I sent some more pictures to lxi girl, these are pretty cool,let me know what you think when they are posted

Coroncho80

12-22-2002, 01:48 PM

If she can't post them, send them to me and I'll post them for ya!

LX-i Girl

12-23-2002, 09:56 AM

i'll post them. i had to work yesterday so i didn't have time, but just give me a few minutes and they will be up!

LX-i Girl

12-23-2002, 10:04 AM

http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/tach001.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/maulechristmasparty2002002.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/santainathreeg001.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/cdchanger001.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/accordwheels.jpg

Tim Yoak

12-23-2002, 01:21 PM

:D :D all right the picture of the tach turned out finally! not sure how the picture of the plane got on there, but those are the toys i work on for a living. merry christmas!:) :)

LX-i Girl

12-23-2002, 01:23 PM

sorry you sent me all those pics in an e-mail so i just figured you wanted them all posted...

Tim Yoak

12-23-2002, 01:28 PM

:D :D thank you for putting up my pictures lxi girl, Not sure how the picture of the plane got on there but those are the toys i work on for a living:smokin: the picture of the tach finally turned out. merry christmas everyone,

Tim Yoak

12-23-2002, 04:04 PM

:burn: ok ok, i got an imagestation account, now how in the world do the get the pictures to show up on the site??

Tim Yoak

12-24-2002, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by LX-i Girl
http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/tach001.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/maulechristmasparty2002002.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/santainathreeg001.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/cdchanger001.jpg
any comments about the tach? I'm thinking about doing more skulls
http://home.attbi.com/~amw81/accordwheels.jpg

Tim Yoak

12-24-2002, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Tim Yoak
the wheels are from an '88 integra rs coupe, I modified the honda center caps to fit

pric

12-27-2002, 02:38 PM

Nice! oops

Tim Yoak

12-27-2002, 03:13 PM

what oops?

87Hybrid

12-27-2002, 09:06 PM

What year integra did you get the Rear brakes from?

Tim Yoak

12-27-2002, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by 87Hybrid
What year integra did you get the Rear brakes from? 88 integra rs coupe, It's been twelve years, so i've been trying to remember if I used the integra spindles or they came off an sei. I'm working on this now. Eventually I'm going to tear my rear brakes apart for a majjor overhaul and I'll do a how to

87Hybrid

12-27-2002, 09:32 PM

88 integra has a solid beam axle not an independant like the Accord has. The stock spindle on the accord has no place to mount the calliper.
This is a pic of the 88 Integrabrakes from my donar for my Civic Project, I don't have pics of my Sei brakes yet but they are in the shop. there are no parts except for possibly the hub that are interchangeable.
http://www.redpepperracing.com/gallery/albums/albun17/aaa.sized.jpg

Tim Yoak

12-27-2002, 09:38 PM

Tim Yoak

12-27-2002, 09:38 PM

:confused: that doesn't look anything like the one I got the integra I got my parts from has a rear suspension just like an 85 accord. I know what you are talking about the solid beam looks like an crx suspension. something is screwy here. the knuckle I'm looking at looks just like an 89 lxi. I just swapped knuckles was all. The master cyl. even has the same part number as my accord, just a different prop valve. It's possible i got the spindles srom eithier an sei or they might have been from a legend. The early acura legend had a rear suspension very close to the accord. It's been twelve years, I can't remember S... from yeaterday half the time anyway.

87Hybrid

12-27-2002, 09:50 PM

Are you possibly thinking legend? I have been Eyeng that set up for a while as other than the hub it seems to look exactly like the 3G Accord. I was planning on doing swme swaping in the wrecking yard to see if it is a feesable swap.

PhydeauX

12-27-2002, 09:52 PM

If its suspension looked like an 85 accord and it wasn't an 85 accord it was probalby an 84-87 prelude. The prelude uses a solid hub rotor assembly, they arn't seperate like the 3rd gen se-i or the teg. If I remeber right the disks and calipers from the teg will work on SEi parts.

andy

Tim Yoak

12-27-2002, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by 87Hybrid
Are you possibly thinking legend? I have been Eyeng that set up for a while as other than the hub it seems to look exactly like the 3G Accord. I was planning on doing swme swaping in the wrecking yard to see if it is a feesable swap. :bow: :bow: :bow: I think you are right I'm going to have to look again. I just looked in my book and it is just like 3rd gen accord. remember the suspension in 3gs was brand new in 86, It's quite possible honda copied it to other cars.

87Hybrid

12-27-2002, 09:55 PM

I wish! the 86-89 teg rotor has a hat that is onl about 3/4" deep where the SEi rotor has a hat about 1,1/4" That is putting a serious bind on going with a larger rotor on the Civic.

anchovies

12-28-2002, 09:10 PM

Yes I confirm it's can't be from the 86-89 teg (Just came back from wreckers today). It has axle rear, no knuckle.

AccordEpicenter

12-28-2002, 10:12 PM

how many sets of fogs du u have?

HondaBoy

12-29-2002, 11:29 AM

on a scale from 1-10 how hard is doing a disc brake conversion? 1 being easy, about 4-6 slightly difficult, and 10 of course being let a pro do it.

HondaBoy

12-29-2002, 11:30 AM

oh ya. im guessing u dont have ABS. im not sure if any older hondas had ABS this only sucks in wet weather if u dont pay attention.

Tim Yoak

12-30-2002, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by anchovies
Yes I confirm it's can't be from the 86-89 teg (Just came back from wreckers today). It has axle rear, no knuckle. The beam axle still has a four hole threaded mount that attaches to the swing arm. That four hole threaded mount if I remember right is just like the four hole threaded mount on the accord suspension. I believe the caliper brackets mount to the accord rear knuckle

Tim Yoak

12-30-2002, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Tim Yoak
The beam axle still has a four hole threaded mount that attaches to the swing arm. That four hole threaded mount if I remember right is just like the four hole threaded mount on the accord suspension. I believe the caliper brackets mount to the accord rear knuckle Just for the record the integra rear drum is the same one on the accord. It bolts up exactly the same just to a swing arm instead of a knuckle.

Tim Yoak

12-30-2002, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by PhydeauX
If its suspension looked like an 85 accord and it wasn't an 85 accord it was probalby an 84-87 prelude. The prelude uses a solid hub rotor assembly, they arn't seperate like the 3rd gen se-i or the teg. If I remeber right the disks and calipers from the teg will work on SEi parts.

andy I believe you are right, once you remove the drum assembly from the sei parts, the spindle and four threaded holes are the ame as what is on the swing arm on the integra. I can't remember. you know crs. can't remember s.....

Tim Yoak

12-30-2002, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by AccordEpicenter
how many sets of fogs du u have? two sets,one driving, and one fog. they are automatically switched by a relay system. fog for low beam, and driving for highh beam. I built a switch from an old three switch cluster that fits in the factory sunroof location. It looks just like a factory switch. I also used one of the blank locations in the instrument cluster for the indicator it looks like an extra high beam switch but lights up green. with the logo and all. I've even fooled cops into thinking it was factory. The lights are from blazer, and they are all aluminum with glass lenses. No plastic crap.

Tim Yoak

12-30-2002, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by HondaBoy
on a scale from 1-10 how hard is doing a disc brake conversion? 1 being easy, about 4-6 slightly difficult, and 10 of course being let a pro do it. if I could remember where I got the parts it was easy.

87Hybrid

12-30-2002, 10:09 PM

The rotor onthe right is an 88 teg rotor, the rotor ont he left is an 89 SEi rotor, notice the differance in hat depth.
http://home.attbi.com/~login4822/wsb/media/9328/site1037.JPG
Also notice the differance in the dust cap, the Teg has it in the rotor the SEi has it on the hub.
http://home.attbi.com/~login4822/wsb/media/9328/site1038.JPG
This is an SEi hub, the 4 bolts in the pic behind the hub only hold on the dust shield, the spindal is pressed into the arm.
http://home.attbi.com/~login4822/wsb/media/9328/site1039.JPG
this is an 88 Integra hub, it isnt as deep and has longer studs for the lug nuts because of some extra spacing behind the shorter integra hat which would push the rotor even farther toward the wheel, you can also see the larger bolts that hold the spindal to the solid beam axle.
http://home.attbi.com/~login4822/wsb/media/9328/site1040.JPG
I'm not trying to be an ass here but the claim of using 88 integra brakes on accord suspension isn't possible. But as I said in my last post you probably used Acura legend coupe brakes as the suspension of the coupe is based on the suspension of the accord hatch. From the quick mesurements that I made today it is the most feesable swap just having to change the hub to get the proper bolt patern.

PhydeauX

12-30-2002, 11:06 PM

I think I see what tim is saying. If the hub bolt pattern is the same for both the accord and the integra. And if the integra disks are like the setup on my 2g accord or corolla then the calaper bracket is sandwiched behind the hub not cast into the carrier. In theory that would work as long as everything clears alright and you used all the integra parts.

Here's a diagram of the corolla's rear brakes. Either setup can be mounted to the same carrier. To big to post, so here's a link (http://68.81.249.80:3000/novapics/rearhubs%20copy.jpg).

andy

Tim Yoak

12-31-2002, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by PhydeauX
I think I see what tim is saying. If the hub bolt pattern is the same for both the accord and the integra. And if the integra disks are like the setup on my 2g accord or corolla then the calaper bracket is sandwiched behind the hub not cast into the carrier. In theory that would work as long as everything clears alright and you used all the integra parts.

Here's a diagram of the corolla's rear brakes. Either setup can be mounted to the same carrier. To big to post, so here's a link (http://68.81.249.80:3000/novapics/rearhubs%20copy.jpg).

andy I'm just trying to remember how I did the swap, the whole brake system on the integra doesn't attach directly to the axle, it attaches to a swing arm which goes up and down with the wheel, this swing arm has four bolts holes just like my rear knuckle. It might have been a legend coupe can't remember. getting............old...............as..........I ................. speak. The axle is actually a torsion bar inside. I wish I had a scanner so I could send a picture of the diagram for that rear suspension.

Tim Yoak

12-31-2002, 05:54 AM

Hey it's all cool, nobodys being an ass or anything, thats what these car sites are for to throw ideas around and such. If we weren't car guys (and car women, nod to our smart ladies like lxi girl) we would all be faggots on the quilting website or somethinglike that) thank god for car sites. carry on then

Metro

12-31-2002, 08:34 AM

Luckely the rear discs are standard on eurpean Accords

http://home.no.net/mfborge/images/accord/accord_05.gif

But looks damn small when you put 17" rims on :huh:

PhydeauX

12-31-2002, 09:07 AM

Can you get a pic of them on the car? Its rather easy to tell if they are from an integra, the calipers sit on top of the disks instead of on the back like a legend or accord.

andy

Tim Yoak

12-31-2002, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by PhydeauX
Can you get a pic of them on the car? Its rather easy to tell if they are from an integra, the calipers sit on top of the disks instead of on the back like a legend or accord.

andy When I can, The cameras broke

Tim Yoak

12-31-2002, 09:39 PM

:confused: Does anybody know where i can a set of those Sei rear arm assemblies for rear disc brakes? Dumbass here hit a curb and broke one of his rear ones. Don't ask I was going about 90 and the curb cut me off. it was its fault. I woulld also need the cable assemblies for the e brake since i tore one off with the arm. everything else will get fixed. I have a million parts in my shed to do the repairs. I just can't remember how I did the disc brake conversion. So I guess I'll go to the sei brakes since i can't remember. I'll have to go back to drums for a while.AUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH.

anchovies

12-31-2002, 11:19 PM

SEis are difficult to find, that's why we are asking questions about your swap.
On the side note, the legend coupe knuckle looks very very similar to the 3geez knuckle (I didn't have much time at the yard, but the # on the struts looks the same as the 3geez rear struts). But the brake dust shield is ugly as hell, like the teg ones.

Tim Yoak

01-01-2003, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by anchovies
SEis are difficult to find, that's why we are asking questions about your swap.
On the side note, the legend coupe knuckle looks very very similar to the 3geez knuckle (I didn't have much time at the yard, but the # on the struts looks the same as the 3geez rear struts). But the brake dust shield is ugly as hell, like the teg ones. Thats what I'm trying to remember it was a long time ago and I'm trying to remember where I got the parts