86 Honda Accord turbo build

[Shane86]

I'm doing a1986 Honda Accord LXI 3 door 2.0 5 speed custom turbo build any questions or any information you can provide me with please do thanks

[Shane86]

Parts purchase to make this build happen

[87accordlxi]

Looks great so far. Looks like you got your hands on the custom Mosselman.

Going forward, you can simply reply to this thread instead of making new threads for each post. I've also moved this to our Forced Induction forum.

[Shane86]

Okay thank you I'm new to this I have plenty of pictures to post if you have any questions or comments please let me know you can also see my videos on YouTube under 86 Honda Accord turbo build under B.P. Salvage thanks for looking looking

[Shane86]

I have had this car for over 10 years.when i first got it the interior and the paint was clean but the motor was a piece of shit .around 300000 miles on a road trip oil light started flashing and I was blowing smoke like a mosquito sprayer made it to my destination and back learn that I couldn't go over 50 or it would blow all my motor oil out the exhaust and smokes come to find out three out of four Pistons were broken in between the Rings so all new Pistons gaskets engine completely rebuilt getting close to four hundred thousand miles it has been a good car and now it's time to show it some love that's why I'm doing this turbo build, I was going to go with this stainless header with a custom a20a flange made but I decided it was easier to purchase the Mosselman turbo header decided there's enough custom handmade work that had to be done

[Hash_man_Se_i]

Welcome to the forum. Looks like you're well on your way with your build. There is lots of info on turbo builds on the forum so be sure to search and read some of the other build threads.
I am sure there are many members who can help any turbo questions you might have

[Shane86]

Thank you for all the info hash man. Here's what we got for today. CV axle driver side replaced got to keep up with the general maintenance. I don't have that much time I work during the week and my only free time is at night and weekends. here's a couple more pictures of stainless brake lines .engine oil cooler kit. 500 CC turbo fuel injectors and resistor delete plug from osidetiger. motor mounts. upgrade the lighting to the H4 bulbs waiting on parts will keep you updated thanks

[Shane86]

Www.youtube.com/b.p salvage

[Shane86]

Has anyone ever did a turbo build and kept the stock intake manifold?

[Shane86]

Performance brake rotors receive today stainless flex pipe to finish my Turbo downpipe

[Shane86]

All Performance brake parts have came in. preparing for installation. Front brake rotors from ATL Autosports .braided stainless steel brake lines rear wheel cylinders

[Tdurr]

Has anyone ever did a turbo build and kept the stock intake manifold?

Yes. I have, what do you need to know? Also what is ur plan for engine management? Looks like you aren't playing around with this build.

[Shane86]

For now engine ARP head studs bisimoto valve springs new head gasket looking into the forged rods but kind of out of my price range right now looking to start at 10 pounds and go from there on the intake you have that tube that runs from the header into the intake. Should I just put a plate to block it and what do you recommend for the EGR valve and tell me a little bit about the 3 bar map sensors I'm building this to work with the car not to tear it up so whatever you think's best

[Shane86]

I plan on going with the AEM piggybackr fuel ignition controller and level 2 plus spec clutch kit

[Shane86]

Second set of gauges wire shrink wrap prepped ready for installation

[Shane86]

Can anyone tell me about Standalone ECU ?

[Shane86]

Can anyone tell me about the Boost Master timing controller will I need anything else to run this system? Or any accessories. Or am I wasting my time with this?

[Tdurr]

to answer a few questions, 3 bar map sensors are smart to get when boosting a car. but only if your ecu is tunable(aka chipped or standalone) factory Honda map sensors read like 1.3bar(iirc) and running it in positive pressure above 12psi is just a waiting game of when it will fail.

clutch, i dont understand the spec stage 2+ it supposedly hold more than their stage 3... but i do know at 230whp the regular 2 slips. stage 2+ in theory should hold till 240-250.

a full standalone ecu would be awesome but as i told you in pm, id go obd1 and get a full unlocked version of neptune rtp(my choice) or hondata. not cheap but everything uses honda parts so if it brakes you just ride to the closest parts store to fix it. no special sensors. no btm will be needed with obd1 because you van adjust all of that stuff in the tune.

[Shane86]

I would like to thank you for being my friend " Waterboy" thank you for all the information i appreciate your help and support a couple more questions what would you recommend as a good clutch kit I want something that's not going to be too herky-jerky and I read several horror stories on the internet about the 6 Puck clutch exploding is that true? And you have any information on throttle body upgrades or should I run stock?

[obd0driver]

There's not much more to add that @Tdurr didn't already say. I'm doing a similar build to his and will be running most of the same stuff.

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[Shane86]

Can I get some of these parts at the junkyard like the distributor and other things I'll need off a newer Honda?

[obd0driver]

Yes you can I would say a good 30-40 percent of my parts are from the junkyard. But anything that you get from the junkyard should be cleaned. Over rebuilt to make sure that it they will work properly your savings is normally about 60 to 70% even after rebuild. Only things that will cause you problems are down pipes for turbos intercooler piping and injector Fitness but there are ways to work around those

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[Shane86]

What's the best year make and model I should get parts from?

[Shane86]

How far should stock oxygen sensor be away from Turbo and how far should wideband air fuel ratio sensor be away ?

[Hash_man_Se_i]

I don't have a lot of experience with turbo builds myself, but I would do like Tdurr suggested and convert to OBD1 and run something like Hondata. Way more control then a piggy back ECU and not nearly as expensive as a full proper standalone.

From what I have seen, the wideband can be fairly close to the turbo in the downpipe... my suggestion is make sure you can access it easily. As long as there are no leaks between the turbo and the wideband O2 you will get an accurate reading.

What size turbo are you going to be running?
Also, I have seen others run the stock size throttle body, I don't see anything wrong with that, but upgrading to an aftermarket bseries intake manifold and larger throttle body is not a bad choice.

[Shane86]

I would like to thank you hashmam for being my friend and posting on my thread. yeah I'm going to do what tdurr Said. he's the man right now .I appreciate you homie. but the turbo right now is a T3 T4 generic turbo it came with the kit . It's claiming they put out 485 horsepower I'm kind of scared it's going to blow up on the dyno. In the future I plan on running a Garrett turbo off of Mercedes . I decided to take the car on a 800 mile road trip to Orlando . 400 miles there 400 back. I replace the fuel pump a couple months ago with the $40 one off eBay the claim to hold 500 horsepower. I bought this one before I learned about the walbro 255. But for $40 this has been one of the best performance parts I have ever put on the car in my 13 years of owning it. I think I mainly got it because it said it was high performance and it has a lifetime warranty Japanese made .So back to the road trip .car running great Like A Champion .hundred miles from reaching my destination car starts running like I hit a big water puddle and it sucked up water backfire bubbling just running like shit. I'm on I-75 and there's no rest stops or little towns to stop for 15 miles so I pull over pop the hood check it out I see there's liquid splattered everywhere it looked like I thought a radiator hose blew up .what happened my battery blew up!!! battery acid everywhere all up in the intake on my new plug wires battery acid burned part of my plug wires away . take pipe off cuz the air filters right there and the battery is just blowing it directly into it. So I get it back on the road it takes about 15-20 minutes to run the water off or battery acid before it the motor was running fine again. then I said fuck it I'm going all the way .so I took it all the way and went to the nearest store which was a Walmart at the time closest to my destination. pop the hood to unhook the battery for my cord charge and Battery was round instead of square so I purchase battery $80 enjoyed a couple days in Orlando and now it's time to head back. As I go to fill up the car with gas to leave it starts raining and my intake piping is off. no problem and I'll just do it at the gas station covered out of the rain well it was a thinner battery the newer battery is the one for the car so my piping didn't fit said fuck it pop the hats do in the back hauled ass for 30 miles it rained and the car ran like shit I would have not ran it through the rain like that but I had to get back to be at work on Tuesday but after the rain stopped in the motor dried out and ran great and I made it home safely and right as I sat down that's when hash man replied to my thread car hit 400,000 miles on my way back .new dash cover came in today

[Shane86]

Got behind on the build alternator went out alternator replaced Wishbone motor mount replaced . Starting to work on interior almost all the parts are in

[Shane86]

Spec clutch level 2 plus. came in the mail the other day.been really busy with work not much time on my hands

[5 Speed Speeder]

400,000 eh? I just hit 311,000 myself. I'll race you to 500,000.

[Shane86]

No problem sounds good Champion Runner

[Tdurr]

lmk how that clutch holds up. I don't understand how their 2+ holds better than a stage 3. But having a 2&3 at different points you will like the clutch for sure. Just know the stage 2 does not do well with 220hp.

[Shane86]

Sure I will let you know as soon as I go through the 500 mile break in on it you will be the first to know thank you for all your info and help I've been doing more research on the OBD1 swap . Getting down to all work and no time

[Tdurr]

Not a problem man. I hope you don't have any problems like i do.

[Shane86]

Decided to go ahead and bolt up turbo header and turbo combination .to see where I was with my clearance and downpipe and intercooler piping. stainless exhaust studs installed. had to cut part of the motor mount bracket out and motor wedding to have clearance for the turbo. what a nightmare I have to find some kind of T3 spacer a thicker spacer. It's my daily driver so I had to take it back apart. EGR tube removed and capped .I can verify EGR taper plug for a 2.0 Nissan part number 14052 - 21R00 fits great in stock header. that's all I have for now see you next time

[obd0driver]

Cygnus x-1 mount upgrade may have save you from cuting the stock one up. But its really unavoidable at some point most people end up cutting them out or crossmember to Turbo

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[Shane86]

Thank you for your info I'm pretty confident that the two bolts that hold the mount are secure. Even with the spacer the turbo so big , such a tight squeeze the oil lines may have to be at a 45 degree angle. Still trying to figure out how I'm going to do the intercooler piping, may have to switch to Honda Civic half size radiator for clearance

[obd0driver]

Half size radiator is the most common way to go you can also look for truck radiators many places offer them now but they range anywhere between 499 to 750 depending on what brand you go. As far as intercoolers go you can use the one that came in your kit or you can also opt out to get a radiator with a dual-sided Inlet so you don't have to run extra piping would make life a little bit easier but once again those are expensive. I don't remember who it was but somebody here just recently I picked up a nice intercooler and Tuck radiator kit for around a grand from speedfactory that's pretty nice she also looks pretty awesome on the Accord

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[Shane86]

Thank you for all the info. With the clearance of the motor mount on thinking about running the compressor housing outlet upward

[obd0driver]

Its all fun and games tell someone falls in there. Its become a dust and small rock trap.

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[Shane86]

Yes sir trial and error. thank you for writing on my thread. it seems like the 86 turbo build kind of dead.

[obd0driver]

Lol you should check some of the other this is far from dead. Ive commented more here then my own build over the last 6 months lol

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[Shane86]

Have you switched over to OBD1 yet

[obd0driver]

Yes I have just long enough to get it running then I pulled to head and to have it cleaned so the I can put my cam and duel vavle springs and titanium retainers before I put my turbo setup on it. I just got my itm back form being port maked to the 72mm tb I'm running. Not is to complete my milspec wirring harness but thats not going so well. I still have to the radiator and a bunch or other little things but its my project car so there isn't much of a rush as there is a need to be doing right the first time

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[Shane86]

Where did you purchase the titanium caps what kind of throttle body are you running

[Shane86]

Yes sir there's a lot of tedious work that's got to be done. Mine is my daily driver so I don't have much time with work

[obd0driver]

Where did you purchase the titanium caps what kind of throttle body are you running
I got them from a member here a while ago. They were custom made from what I understand. I didn't really ask many questions because I got a hell of a deal. My TB is BDL industry 72mm something but it was much bigger than my skunk2 b16 ITM port was so i had it opened up.

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[Shane86]

Thank you for the info. I still have a lot of research to do

[obd0driver]

Here's my build. I took over where the last guy left off.

http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59851

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[Shane86]

Super clean car looking good mine used to look like that before I used it like a truck

[obd0driver]

Thanks it need paint and my cf trunk on the hood was a cheap pick up but was sanded for recoating and has holes cut in it that don't need to be there. Just thing that are the never ending list of shit to get down lol

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[nastytee]

Nice progress. How I wish I could start a build like yours. Too bad I'm not that knowledgeable on engines.

[Shane86]

The engine is actually easy all you'll need is a Honda repair manual and a set of tools. The best way to learn is to get in there and do it. The first time I disassembled it took 3 days the second time took a day and a half. And the last time I took it apart was easy because I already knew what to do. did not even need the repair manuals. Took me about 8 hours to do the Pistons and everything.

[Shane86]

More Parts came in today .we got the 96 - 00 Honda Civic half size radiator. Bisimoto heat-treated valve springs. And motor mount adapter plates from cygnus X - 1

[Tdurr]

Awsome! Good deal man. Keep the progress going

[Shane86]

:lol:Getting a little bit closer baby steps lol

[Shane86]

Also got the power door lock kit

[Tdurr]

power doors ftw!

[obd0driver]

Call supposed to be cutting weight not Adding it. Lol ahahahha

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[Shane86]

Moving on up. Trying to be a high roller like you guys.lol

[Tdurr]

Gotta have that push button start from inside to be pinkey up fancy

[Shane86]

Front motor mount installed. Excellent upgrade. Less vibration and smoother in between shifting. And a lot more room two thumbs up

[rushell]

where did u get the mount

[Shane86]

You can get the black mounts from almost any auto parts store the red ones I ordered from the internet eBay. Energy suspension GM transmission mount

[Tdurr]

where did u get the mount

cygnus X - 1 is the guy... you know what, just read this page...

[Shane86]

X2

[Shane86]

Rear motor mount installed.

[Tdurr]

good progress. do you love the mounts or do you love the mounts?

[Shane86]

Gotta love them .they changed the whole Drive ability of the car. It feels good and makes it feel more solid. Awesome upgrade

[Shane86]

More Parts came in replacement power steering pump and T3 turbo spacer

[Tdurr]

Bueno!

[Shane86]

See Bueno .Honda Civic radiator installed made custom piece aluminum to hold radiator inn place

[Tdurr]

Good stuff. Be sure to use a rubber grommet around that top peg otherwise it can shear off.

[MessyHonda]

Good idea on the aluminum piece. I still have not installed mine but I will keep this in mind.

[Shane86]

Thanks . don't forget about me when you do lol :deal:

[MessyHonda]

yeah looks easy and better than cutting up the stock support.

[Shane86]

Yes sir. this is just a rough estimate Outlook of it .I still got a lot of cleaning up and detailing .grinding / cutting to do to it thanks

[Shane86]

Bisimoto heat shield intake manifold gasket came in today. Prepping front bumper for paint

[Shane86]

Front bumper painted. Intercooler and accessories painted to blend in with the front bumper. Radiator fan installed wired up

[Shane86]

New carpet came in today

[Tdurr]

awsome! progress is dope!

[Shane86]

Thanks dude. More parts ARP Rod studs part #208-6001

[Tdurr]

hell yea.

[Shane86]

Radiator plate cleaned up and painted to match the rest of the car. Preparing to disassemble motor. Time to get out the pressure washer and tools

[Tdurr]

awww snap!

[Shane86]

Cylinder head removed. Two broken studs. And aluminum piece that holds distributor fell apart. Trial and error !! WTB Aluminum distributor rocker arm piece and lower timing belt cover

[Tdurr]

Pm me. I got one in a spare head in ga. Can ship next weekend

[Shane86]

Thermal throttle body gasket receive today

[Tdurr]

noice. going b series intake correct?

[Shane86]

In the future this is for the stock manifold Part from p2r Power rev racing for 88-91 crx-si

[Tdurr]

got ya.

[Shane86]

Oil pan and pistons removed ;)

[Shane86]

Pistons cleaned up and ARP Rod studs installed. ARP Rod studs are a hair shorter than stock. A tip for anyone installing these take your time when you install the new studs. It's best to tap and tighten tap and tighten. So that heads just twist on you.

[Shane86]

Turbo return line oil pan fitting installed

[Shane86]

Valve cover painted. That is all for this weekend

[Tdurr]

I like ur style

[Shane86]

Do I need these parts ?

[Samwise]

Those are your idle solenoid and AC idle-up. It looks like you're going OBD1, so they'll be useless.

[Shane86]

Cool thanks. I want to remove everything I'm not going to need

[Shane86]

"Update" Pistons back in oil pan back on transmission removed. More Parts fuel pump relay kit from xenocron and 0bd1 distributor

[Tdurr]

Unbolt that battery tray lol

[Shane86]

You don't like my tray:crying: yeah I was thinking about doing something with that .like relocate the battery and I was thinking about maybe dropping the battery down some inn its existing spot

[Samwise]

I'd relocate it to the trunk.

[Tdurr]

Trunk is best bet imo. Do that & a fuse box relocation under the glove box(ull have to do something custom for blower hose) & ill have all the extra space ull need

[Shane86]

Can I remove this little harness I believe it was all the connectors for the Ac components driver side in front

[Shane86]

Arp flywheel and pressure plate bolts. Flywheel bolts may be a little long

[Shane86]

Rhino Puck brand flywheel came inn today finally i can put it back together :beer:

[Shane86]

Rhino Puck brand flywheel came inn today finally i can put it back together :beer:

And other parts transmission axle seals spark plug ball joints oil pump gaskets all the little accessories you need

[Tdurr]

What clutch did you get? The stage 2 I had wasn't able to Handel 220whp

Edit: I see its a 2+. You may be cutting it close with that one. 203tq rated. If you get a good time & everything right that may be your weak point

[obd0driver]

Id like to know as well spec d was the only place I contacted last year that had something that would hold over 300 horsepower

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[Tdurr]

Id tell ya to do what I did for my clutch, hit up a local shop that has been building clutches for diesel trucks. My local place made mine for like 220ish and had a 3day turn around cuz they had to wait on a material order. Dude said its good up to 400 sooooo....

[obd0driver]

That's true but I was more interested in a more heavy duty pressure plate and that seems to be a little bit hard to find

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[Shane86]

Yes sir its level 2 + I was originally going to go with a clutch master one but it was out of my price range at the time. It seems like it's hard to get past that 220 whp mark. I'm not trying to break any world records right now. Thanks for all the info guys we will see how it goes

[obd0driver]

I have been thinking about this because price point isn't to bad
SPEC Clutch Stage 4 - Honda Accord 1986-1989 2.0L SPEC Clutch SH084 (http://www.specclutches.com/700746/)

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[Shane86]

Yeah man that's actually cheaper than what mine cost. I purchased the level 2 plus because I live in like a tourist town a lot of stop-and-go traffic and I wanted to still be able to handle it in the streets. Let me know how it goes. My plans are to put it all back together do a good 500 mile break in on it convert to OBD1. Then turbo it

[Tdurr]

500mile break in is false. You just need to heat cycle the clutch a few good times. Guy from competition clutch told me this. Saying 500 miles is just the safest way to cover heat cycles

[obd0driver]

^^^^^what he said

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[Shane86]

500mile break in is false. You just need to heat cycle the clutch a few good times. Guy from competition clutch told me this. Saying 500 miles is just the safest way to cover heat cycles

Thank you for all the info I did not know that. haven't had time to work on it much with work and the weather. I will keep this in mind thanks

[MessyHonda]

Id tell ya to do what I did for my clutch, hit up a local shop that has been building clutches for diesel trucks. My local place made mine for like 220ish and had a 3day turn around cuz they had to wait on a material order. Dude said its good up to 400 sooooo....

why you not turn up the boast?!

[MessyHonda]

this build is looking cool. Cant wait to see this project in the future.

[Shane86]

why you not turn up the boast?!

x2

[Shane86]

this build is looking cool. Cant wait to see this project in the future.

Thanks you Messy for your support. It gives me motivation I appreciate it. Little update the Honda has been my daily driver for 13 years. I purchased another vehicle so now the Honda is my project vehicle. Money's been a little tight. And work has been very busy. I'm getting ready to work on it right now should have some good updates within the next couple days

[Shane86]

Rack and pinion replaced, transmission shaft seals replaced, flywheel replace pressure plate and clutch disc installed.

[Tdurr]

Hell yea! Keep it up man! Your getting closer every week!

[Shane86]

Hell yea! Keep it up man! Your getting closer every week!

Thanks boss man. should have some more good updates after this weekend

[MessyHonda]

Thanks you Messy for your support. It gives me motivation I appreciate it. Little update the Honda has been my daily driver for 13 years. I purchased another vehicle so now the Honda is my project vehicle. Money's been a little tight. And work has been very busy. I'm getting ready to work on it right now should have some good updates within the next couple days

we share a similar story. My mom bought one new back in 1988. it was my first car but she had an automatic carb. I bought mine right out of high school 10 years ago and now im proud to say its one of the fastest accords on the site. glad to see other people working on our cars. like i say old accords just get faster.

[Shane86]

we share a similar story. My mom bought one new back in 1988. it was my first car but she had an automatic carb. I bought mine right out of high school 10 years ago and now im proud to say its one of the fastest accords on the site. glad to see other people working on our cars. like i say old accords just get faster.

Yes sir. labor of love

[Shane86]

More parts inn oil catch can setup. Block plug and transmission installed;)

[knifemind]

Is that plug off the shelf? for a B or D series perhaps?

[Shane86]

Is that plug off the shelf? for a B or D series perhaps?

D series block plug from go-Auto Works. You have to cut off the first o-ring section. And use a fatter bigger o-ring

[Shane86]

Arp head studs installed. Getting closer

[Tdurr]

Ayeee glad someone else did the block plug also.

[Shane86]

Ayeee glad someone else did the block plug also.

Yes sir it's a must-have clears up a lot of space back there for other things like your engine oil cooler sandwich plate and turbo oil feed lines

[Tdurr]

yupppp. Im still suprised nobody did that before me(at least that i was aware of) it makes everything so much nicer. did you cut the return off of the oil pan?

[Shane86]

yupppp. Im still suprised nobody did that before me(at least that i was aware of) it makes everything so much nicer. did you cut the return off of the oil pan?

Not yet wasn't 100% sure what to do with it. cut it plug it ?

[Tdurr]

I cut it off then had my welder weld the hole shut.

[Shane86]

I cut it off then had my welder weld the hole shut.

Cool man thanks for the info

[Shane86]

Oil pump O-rings replaced and more parts inn passenger side CV axle ,lower control arm and timing tensioner pulley

[Shane86]

Turbo oil feed fittings and line installed

[Shane86]

More parts extended intake manifold studs and crankshaft oil seal

[Tdurr]

Hell yea extended intake studs!

[Shane86]

Hell yea extended intake studs!

Yes sir. I'm trying to get it right this time

[Shane86]

Water pump, oil pump, belt tensioner, alternator front lower ball joints installed. EGR valve removed plugged. And I was only able to find a distributor piece from a head from a carbureted model. Which only has one ear instead of two .don't know if it's going to be compatible with the OBD1 distributor adapter plate

[Shane86]

Thermal throttle body gasket installed with extended stainless studs

[Tdurr]

That a oem b16 intake?

[Shane86]

That a oem b16 intake?

Stock a20

[Shane86]

All brittle and broken connections repaired and retaped wire harness

[Shane86]

Radiator hoses dressed up

[Tdurr]

All brittle and broken connections repaired and retaped wire harness

best thing you can do especially if you get rid of useless wires

[Shane86]

best thing you can do especially if you get rid of useless wires

Yes sir and I like to get rid of majority of the black box components as I can

[Shane86]

New intake and exhaust valves. Now if I can find some exhaust valve spring retainers I might be able to put the head back together someday

[Shane86]

90-93 Honda Accord MSD external coil cap set up

[Tdurr]

staying external coil? I went internal just for less wires

[Shane86]

staying external coil? I went internal just for less wires

Yes sir keeping it old-school

[Shane86]

Lost my job today so it looks like the head go's back together with the Single Springs on the intake side

[Shane86]

I can verify that the bisimoto double valve spring fit stock intake retainers no problem perfect fit

[Shane86]

Cylinder head installed and torque to specs. Should have it running tomorrow:rockon:

[Shane86]

Latest progress .engine oil cooler plate and lines installed intake installed. rocker arms camshaft timing lined up. Sizeing up manifold for downpipe. And for anyone that's going to try to run the mosselman turbo header you're going to need A 1 inch turbo spacer in between the turbo and manifold this will push the turbo far enough past the front motor mount you still got it cut a little bit of the bracket but not as much. And you're going to need the front motor mount adapter plates with the energy suspension GM motor mounts. That gives you room for oil return line fitting

[Dr_Snooz]

Looking good! Sorry to hear about the job.

[Tdurr]

sucks you lost your job man, i know thats rough. but progress looks nice! where are you mounting your oil cooler? I'm trying to plan out mine so I can add it in the winter. also any way to rotate your pics the correct way lol

[Shane86]

Looking good! Sorry to hear about the job.

It's all good it was a bunch of bullshit they actually called me back and said I could come back to work

[Shane86]

sucks you lost your job man, i know thats rough. but progress looks nice! where are you mounting your oil cooler? I'm trying to plan out mine so I can add it in the winter. also any way to rotate your pics the correct way lol

The engine oil cooler radiator is going to go to the right of the half size Civic radiator I will have pictures of it installed tomorrow

[Shane86]

And the internal wastegate actuator valve bracket has to be modified

[Shane86]

Need one more elbow for the downpipe otherwise I would have to cut out a large chunk of the crossmember

[Tdurr]

get a traction bar. or take a hammer to the downpipe. it dont matter lol

[Shane86]

get a traction bar. or take a hammer to the downpipe. it dont matter lol

Lol I thought about it believe me

[Shane86]

Valve Lash adjusted .valve cover back on distributor back on Old exhaust back on radiator back inn and here's where I'm going to mount my engine oil cooler radiator

[Shane86]

Engine oil cooler radiator installed. Down to puting in the drive shafts , rotors and front Knuckles and fluids

[Tdurr]

So how are you going to mount your intercooler?

[Shane86]

So how are you going to mount your intercooler? my intercooler is mounted right under the metal bumper . Fully got it back together front bumper and everything it was too dark to take any pics will have some tomorrow

[Shane86]

The oil cooler radiator sits where the old AC radiator set and the intercooler is mounted directly under the front bumper. Got it all oiled up and primed and we have a crank no start situation no power to the fuel pump or fuel pump is not working. So now I'm putting together my fuel pump relay kit going to try to get that out and go from there

[Ryon Toth]

What brand and size oil cooler are you running?

[Shane86]

What brand and size oil cooler are you running?

The brand is Bobo / eBay generic it came with my kit the size is 4 1/2 inches tall by 12 inches long 2 inches thick and the fittings are an 8

[Shane86]

Fuel pump relay kit put together. And black box disassembled

[Ryon Toth]

What brand and size oil cooler are you running?

Thanks bro! I need to get one

[Shane86]

Oil catch can and lines installed and MSD Blaster coil mounted. Final elbow piece came in for my downpipe

[Tdurr]

love the progress man. keep it up. also a few questions. I forget but are you going obd1? if so ditch most of that black box stuff. I only kept i think 2 things out of it.
Your oil cooler feed plate, is it one with a thermal valve? if not get one of those and be sure to prime the lines before you turn the engine over. Last thing did your fuel pump relay have a oem style plug on it? much jealous lol

[Shane86]

love the progress man. keep it up. also a few questions. I forget but are you going obd1? if so ditch most of that black box stuff. I only kept i think 2 things out of it.
Your oil cooler feed plate, is it one with a thermal valve? if not get one of those and be sure to prime the lines before you turn the engine over. Last thing did your fuel pump relay have a oem style plug on it? much jealous lol
Yes going OBD1 it's the best choice. Not sure if it has a thermal valve I'll check into that it's got a oil pressure sensor in an oil temperature sensor on the other side. The relay no oem plug after putting it together I noticed that had 2 little prong clips and I seen in the how to that the connector was just cut off. So it made it where I didn't have to cut anything just plug it inn

[Shane86]

Having no power to the pump issues. Pump only pumps after the starter disengages. It usually clicks on and off when you first turn the key on. I've replaced the main relay does the same thing. Had this problem before a couple years ago I replace the main relay and ignition switch. So I ordered another ignition switch hopefully this fixes my problem

[Tdurr]

So its not starting?

[Shane86]

So its not starting?

It starts it turns over .the fuel pumps good. Powers not going to the main relay to power the fuel pump When I first turn the key on

[Shane86]

Still waiting on the ignition switch they sent me a 98 instead of a 86 switch. So I'm going to continue until Parts come inn. When ahead installed my gauge pod and switch

[MessyHonda]

holly upside down batman

[Shane86]

holly upside down batman

I know do you know how to flip the pictures around?

[Samwise]

The ECU is supposed to control the fuel pump priming. My first thought is maybe a dirty contact in the ignition switch is intermittently not powering the ECU up. Does the CEL blink on/stay on/not turn on when you first click the key on?

[Shane86]

I suspected it would be the main relay I jump the relay and the pump works great. After replacing the main relay it did the same thing no pump priming when you first turn the key on. ECU was showing code 6. Replace that sensor to day and no codes

[Shane86]

I forgot to add one thing I was messing with it today and I don't know if the alternator has anything to do with the fuel pump coming on. But I wiggled the main wire off the alternator and I could hear the injectors clicking on and off multiple times. Like it's supposed to do when you first turn the key on. The car ran for like 10 minutes before it cut off .

[Shane86]

Dash cover installed and other set of gauges installed wired. may Have went overboard with all the gauges but fuck it

[Shane86]

Just replace the ignition switch and surprise surprise same thing.:wtf:

[Dr_Snooz]

You can't have too many gauges.

[Shane86]

Messed with the car a little bit today put the key on turn it to the first click it's working. Car runs for 10 minutes then dies. Try it again turn the key on no power to the fuel pump. Same with the key on it starts going crazy and clicking on and off multiple times sending too much signal to the fuel pump on and off. So I think the ECU is bad went and ordered another one. Took the old ECU park looks pretty clean. Running Outta ideas

[Samwise]

I had a freshly rebuilt P06 ECU die after 2 months of use. It's certainly possible shit can die randomly like that.

[Shane86]

Yeah I think the ECU is toast .on the backside of the board every place that the board grounds to the housing there's black dots

[Tizi808]

where are you located shane?

[Shane86]

where are you located shane?

Fort Walton Beach Florida

[Shane86]

Took the board completely out off ECU cleaned a little corroded areas that I seen. An applied silver thermal compound to all the connectors that screw and hold the board to the ECU casing .Put the ECU back in now it's running great was even able to drive it

[Shane86]

Back in business she's running great

[Dr_Snooz]

Damn. I wouldn't have figured that out in a thousand years. Nice work.

[Shane86]

Damn. I wouldn't have figured that out in a thousand years. Nice work.

Thanks man. I had the thermal compound left over from when I tried to do the Xbox 3 Ring of Death repair. It was definitely the ECU. Cars running better than ever

[Tdurr]

Hahaha that's the best reuse of a rrod part I've never seen. That lil tub was like 15-20 bucks right??

Anyways glad u got it figured out. I'm loving this man. You need videos now!

[Shane86]

:lol:Yeah years ago I think I paid $14 for the tube at Radio Shack . I think I'm going to do a write-up how to possibly fix your ECU

[Shane86]

Starting to work on the interior got a lot of work to do

[Tdurr]

i like your style

[Shane86]

Carpet almost inn

[Shane86]

Carpet installed not the best job but it's a lot better than no carpet. Will have better pictures tomorrow

[Tdurr]

Where the pics at?

[Shane86]

Where the pics at? carpet seat covers and floor mats

[MessyHonda]

i really hope your car is not upsidedown

[Ryon Toth]

Im sure it just makes installation a breeze!

[Tdurr]

Lolol

[Shane86]

Im sure it just makes installation a breeze!

Lol yes I'm going to use this technique when I install the headliner

[Shane86]

My hood latch quit working so I decided to go ahead and put inn the hood pins. Best place for me to install it directly on the radiator support.

[Tdurr]

hey look the pics arnt upside down! like the progress man! when do you think you will get to drive the car?

[Shane86]

hey look the pics arnt upside down! like the progress man! when do you think you will get to drive the car?

the car is up and running I've actually went a 136 miles so far . after removing the EGR valve and majority of the black box components I no longer have code 12.. and it's a lot easier to adjust the idle. and for the stage 2 plus spec clutch I like it I was expecting it to be more aggressive but it feels pretty good. everything's running pretty good right now

[Tdurr]

That's great man! Get some videos & get a tune!

Edit: i see ur not boosted yet, idk I thought u were lol. Also the clucth pedal shouldn't be that much harder and oem.

[Shane86]

That's great man! Get some videos & get a tune!

Edit: i see ur not boosted yet, idk I thought u were lol. Also the clucth pedal shouldn't be that much harder and oem.

Yeah I still have to convert to OBD1. I still don't have a job so I'm kind of at a standstill with it.

[Tdurr]

Ahh that sucks man.

[Shane86]

Ahh that sucks man.

It's all good .I'm going to continue to enjoy the car and work on my OBD1 conversion

[Tdurr]

Like ur mindset. Just keep tinkering

[Shane86]

300 miles the rrod ecu took a crap.luckily i had a backup one. took the plug from the old ECU and got an OBD1 connector and a little shielded wire going to try do it yourself conversion harness

[Tdurr]

brave man. I use the ebay harness. its like 20bucks and easier to re-pin then all that work to make your own.

[Shane86]

brave man. I use the ebay harness. its like 20bucks and easier to re-pin then all that work to make your own.

Yes sir i think this is something i need to learn

[Shane86]

I Threw the towel in on the jumper harness too much of a nightmare :banghead:

[Tdurr]

U can spend 20-30 on a eBay one & use the how to guide to do it. Or you could pick up a boomslang one for like 100-140 & its plug & play

[Shane86]

U can spend 20-30 on a eBay one & use the how to guide to do it. Or you could pick up a boomslang one for like 100-140 & its plug & play

That's the plan to go with the eBay one I got plenty of practice repining the past 2 days. does your wideband hook into the jumper harness?

[Tdurr]

yup on the one that i have there is a separate harness for additional plugs, like o2/wideband imput, cel light grn, ect. they are just spliced into the proper plug tho.

[Shane86]

Well work has picked up a little bit so I was able to purchase a couple of things. Got my jumper harness ready to go. Got a lot of vibration from a bad wheel bearing time to replace them. And I'm going to grind down the ball on this Honda Civic short throw shifter and see how it works

[Tdurr]

Hell yea! Progress

[Shane86]

Hell yea! Progress yes sir. Don't count me out yet this project is just beginning. Distributor adapter plate from Oddball adapters.com

[rushell]

i never knew about this site i will go obd1 this summer

[Shane86]

i never knew about this site i will go obd1 this summer yeah man it came out a couple months ago. you can also purchase the front and rear motor mount plates that hold the energy suspension GM transmission motor mount

[MessyHonda]

Im glad Chris still makes these plates. I was one of the first ones here to go plateless and it got people talking about a bolt on adaptor. long story short the person helping just disappeared and Chris took over and now more and more cars can go OBD1

[Shane86]

Big jump. Got the demon v2 Neptune RTP po6 package from haMotorsports. Added boost by gear and Bluetooth

[Shane86]

Front wheel bearings , slotted drilled rotors, stainless brake lines installed. What a day!!!:beat:

[MessyHonda]

this is why i do everything in my suspension when it take it out. ball joints(moog), bushings(poly) one time and thats it, new rotors and pads if its time because its just make it easier down the road.

[Shane86]

a couple more parts for the collection.innovate MTX-L afr kit, volt gauge, adjustable fuel pressure regulator. preparing for big updates soon

[Tdurr]

dont need a volt gauge if you gonna have the bluetooth haha. But great to see you are still making progress man! you are getting close to having everything you need!

[Shane86]

dont need a volt gauge if you gonna have the bluetooth haha. But great to see you are still making progress man! you are getting close to having everything you need!

Got the volt gauge to replace the fake air fuel ratio gauge since I got a real one

[Shane86]

Shielded wire and wideband wiring ran. And made a plate to hold the OBD1 ECU

[Shane86]

Distributor plate and distributor installed wiring is finished

[Shane86]

It runs. YouTube obd1 start up runs like crap

[obd0driver]

Nice work bro

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[Shane86]

Nice work bro

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Thanks man . I'm working on it right now trying to figure out this Neptune RTP stuff

[obd0driver]

Yeah it can be a bit of a learning curve. I only know the basics. I let my tuner do the hard stuff lol

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[Shane86]

Yeah it can be a bit of a learning curve. I only know the basics. I let my tuner do the hard stuff lol

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It's very frustrating I'm ready to pull my hair out LOL

[Oldblueaccord]

Thats why i stay mostly stock!

Good luck with it youll get it.

Car will run from 15.5 to like 10 AFR without much noticeably,short term, running problems. Just my experience.

[Shane86]

Thats why i stay mostly stock!

Good luck with it youll get it.

Car will run from 15.5 to like 10 AFR without much noticeably,short term, running problems. Just my experience.

It's running a lot better now I'm starting to learn how to use Neptune. Only problem right now is my innovate MTX - l I think it may have a faulty sensor either shows 22.4 or 7.4

[Oldblueaccord]

It's running a lot better now I'm starting to learn how to use Neptune. Only problem right now is my innovate MTX - l I think it may have a faulty sensor either shows 22.4 or 7.4

run the ground to it straight to the battery. Its sensitive to ground off set. all DC is.

Follow the set up instructions to the letter ,free air all that jazz.

I have had zero luck with them as far as tech support so good luck. My gauge is .2 off what the computer says and always has been.

[Shane86]

run the ground to it straight to the battery. Its sensitive to ground off set. all DC is.

Follow the set up instructions to the letter ,free air all that jazz.

I have had zero luck with them as far as tech support so good luck. My gauge is .2 off what the computer says and always has been.

I will try that mine is grounded directly into the ECU pin a26. And my computer says it's off by .2 too.

[Shane86]

Grounded the gauge to the negative side of the battery now it's working great thanks oldblueAccord

[Oldblueaccord]

Grounded the gauge to the negative side of the battery now it's working great thanks oldblueAccord


Good deal.

Get some gas to that thing shes pretty damn lean.