A16A specs Wanted

[carotman]

Anyone here has all the A16A specs?


Like HP, torque, Bore X stroke, Compression Ratio,number of valves total displacement

Thanks

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Is that a 1st gen accord engine by chance? I couldn't find anything on it. Did you find on hecka cheap somewhere?

http://www.vtectuning.com/enginechart.html

[3rdgenaccord]

80 x 79.5, 1598 cc, 12 valve

that crank in a A20 would make 1708 cc, and rev like a B16.

http://www.luk-korbmacher.de/Autos/engines.htm

[shepherd79]

i didn't know B18A runs on 2 keihins. it is cool.

[carotman]

That's exactly what I was thinking,

People could use the A16A crank and make their 1.8L A20A REv like hell (assuming you get stiffer springs)

[Sean]

hmm i wonder if the b16 headswap is gonna work out ?? got some promising pics.

[A20A1]

so using the A16 crank will reduce the displacement... but how much will it affect the CR?


Hondas version of an aircooled motor?
even has what looks like 4-2-1 headers design.
http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13065

[3G Jester]

Carot man.....dont you have a 1s gen? (a16 is 1st gen..right?)
what are you playing to do with it? h22 swap?:lol :bh:

[thegreatdane]

wtf this is the first time ever I read this thread. Never noticed it was here before lol.
I always wondered why no one had thought about using the A16 crank. There's a lot of the A16 powered 3rd gen Accords around here in denmark, so if I was considering building an N/A A20 I would seriously consider using the A16 crank.

[snoopyloopy]

i wonder what numbers could be gotten out of one of those...

[carotman]

Unfortunately, I don't have much info on this engine.

thegreatdane, you're officially in charge of getting those specs for us :D

[rjudgey]

The only problem is the CR ratio would drop although would be boosted to normal by running a larger bore say 83mm the 1.6 crank was also used in 2nd Gens and was with engines with code of EY and EZ one was CVCC the other normal 12 valve, also they are very similar to ET1 which was the 1.8 version same heads i believe as well as blocks and manifolds. I've used ET1 and not really bothered worrying about 1.6 crank as the 1.8l and 2.0l crank are both capable of running upto 8k without problems anyway and more cc you have the more torque and Bhp you'll make. What would be best would be using ET1 head or EY/EZ head in conjunction with 2.0l crank and pistons you would get a pretty high CR ratio without needing custom pistons similar to doing the A18 lude head swap but without the rubbish sidedraughts and the weird offset port spacing.

[thegreatdane]

Unfortunately, I don't have much info on this engine.
thegreatdane, you're officially in charge of getting those specs for us :D

boooo lol

[thegreatdane]

The only problem is the CR ratio would drop although would be boosted to normal by running a larger bore say 83mm the 1.6 crank was also used in 2nd Gens and was with engines with code of EY and EZ one was CVCC the other normal 12 valve, also they are very similar to ET1 which was the 1.8 version same heads i believe as well as blocks and manifolds. I've used ET1 and not really bothered worrying about 1.6 crank as the 1.8l and 2.0l crank are both capable of running upto 8k without problems anyway and more cc you have the more torque and Bhp you'll make. What would be best would be using ET1 head or EY/EZ head in conjunction with 2.0l crank and pistons you would get a pretty high CR ratio without needing custom pistons similar to doing the A18 lude head swap but without the rubbish sidedraughts and the weird offset port spacing.

I was thinking along the lines of using the A16 crank in an A20 block bored out as much as possible and with either custom longer rods or finding rods that fits from another engine. But I havent at all looked into if any rods fit.
The A16 crank use a 42mm bore for the rods instead of the 45mm the A20 crank use.

[thegreatdane]

A16A1 specs

Bore: 80mm
Stroke: 79,5mm
Displacement: 1598ccm
C/R ratio: 9:1
Valves: 12
Hp: 88@6000rpm
Torque: 91,5 lbs ft@3500rpm
Rod bore crank end: 42mm
Piston pin size: 20mm

[gfrg88]

can we fit our a20 IM onto an a18 head??

[A20A1]

I'm pretty sure the lude A18 had the dual carbs which has different ports on the intake manifold.

[Lok]

I rev my stock A16 up to 7500rpm many times without any problem at all...
I check after the valves where I serviced the car in Honda Dealer (valve clearance) here in Greece and the mechanic said that the engine is in perfect condition....all the valves straight...
But A16 is underpower compared to A20.
My car is OK for 1.6 family car even 20 years old, but in general A20 has a lot more torque...
I drove one carbed Accord 2.0L on U.K (106bhp) and even was auto, was faster than mine...
Also you go faster if you change gears 6250rpm on A16......you don't gain enything revving 7000rpm+

[Lok]

I forget to say that A16 hasn't got rev limit

[rjudgey]

You just use A16 Rods should be the same size piston pins etc. they will be longer than stock A20 rods, another way of raising compression would be to use A16 Rods into A20 using stock A20 pistons what you do is machine the A20 pistons down wound the edges so that it misses the edges of the combustion chambers

[thegreatdane]

The A16 rods use a smaller big end bore than the A20 rods, so they wont fit the A20 crank.

[Xulfiqar]

using an A16A1 engined accord here in Pakistan, has lasted me nearly about 350,000 kms with two valve seal jobs, 3 clutches and 3 timing belts/wpumps only - compression still shows up at 175 psi on all cylinders, Not much to talk about performance, except that I think my original dizzy is toast now thats why it pings like theres a warzone in the cylinders, but it does rev more smoothly than a A20

[ChaseR]

using an A16A1 engined accord here in Pakistan, has lasted me nearly about 350,000 kms with two valve seal jobs, 3 clutches and 3 timing belts/wpumps only - compression still shows up at 175 psi on all cylinders, Not much to talk about performance, except that I think my original dizzy is toast now thats why it pings like theres a warzone in the cylinders, but it does rev more smoothly than a A20


Pakistan? Im going to Afghanistan pretty soon!