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SiR
02-22-2003, 11:20 PM
I cut the sides out of the carb airbox while the lid is flipped, it sounds a little nicer, that is always welcomed. Power wise from just flipping it, cant tel at all, but sounds nice though.

pimp86LX
02-22-2003, 11:32 PM
your not gunna get a significant increase in power, but it does sound cool, and turn heads of the less educated ;)


just be sure the filter gets a good seal so no crap gets in, also consider a K&N

shepherd79
02-23-2003, 04:54 AM
yeah K&N filter would be nice.

SiR
02-23-2003, 08:51 AM
It dosent matter what filter, those numbers that show K&N filter having more hp is very negligble. The price of one K&N filter are alittle expensive.

shepherd79
02-23-2003, 12:23 PM
AccordSIR, do you have the K&N filter?

pimp86LX
02-23-2003, 12:26 PM
K&Ns dont't make like 50 freakin hp but its a little more than neglegable

88 Accord DX
02-23-2003, 12:38 PM
"DA MOTOR" haha

original2k
02-23-2003, 05:36 PM
lol just noticed that, 1 benefit is just having to recharge that mother every whatever miles, i noticed better throttle response when i installed it, not much else tho

pimp86LX
02-23-2003, 05:51 PM
with headers and full exauhst it would make a noticable difference. for the stock setup it allows it to breath much easier (aka better throttle response)

u can get em around here for $50can. its pricy but a K&N is still way better than a motormaster or whatever

Grant2k
02-23-2003, 07:02 PM
a K&N might seem a little expensive, but its' really only like $40 and it lasts long enough to pay for itself a few times over if you take care of it.

3G Jester
02-23-2003, 07:07 PM
a K&N FILTER does not add 50 hp...more like 7

a K&N STICKER...on the other hand..adds upwards of 55 hp. :lol:

their expensive but worth it in my opinon. they have beter filtration and high flow. plus the sound pretty :)

a K&N filter is about 45 bucks US for a carb accrod. What im doin is spending the 50 on a custom short ram intake and making a custom intake for my carb. there is a post i started about "chea easy Crab CAI" with all the stuff we were taling about how to do it. id say give it a look.

88LXiHB
02-23-2003, 08:24 PM
THe K&N for the DSMs is dynoed to 15hp....

SiR
02-23-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by 88 Accord DX
"DA MOTOR" haha

Everyone that sees that makes fun of my "DA MOTOR" sign!!!

I wish I had $40 in my pocket right now!

shepherd79
02-24-2003, 04:11 AM
it is not $40 or $50. go online and you can find it for $35 with free shipping.
plus if you don't have K&N filter you shouldn't say anything bad about it.

original2k
02-24-2003, 05:53 AM
$35 online w/ free shipping??? DAMMIT RIPPED OFF AGAIN!!!! :rolleyes:

3G Jester
02-24-2003, 06:39 PM
i was never dissing K&N.

And 35?? damnit. these stores in CT really rip ya off!! thank od i havent gotten one yet.

and 15 hp? sweet i was informed 7-10. muchos gracias for the better info :)

Grant2k
02-24-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by 3g Jester
i was never dissing K&N.

And 35?? damnit. these stores in CT really rip ya off!! thank od i havent gotten one yet.

and 15 hp? sweet i was informed 7-10. muchos gracias for the better info :)
he did say that's for a DSm though, not a 3rg gen.

n88accordLX-i
02-24-2003, 08:05 PM
15h/p is most likley for the gs-t and gsx....changing the stock filter to a k/n will give you 2-3h/p if your lucky

88LXiHB
02-25-2003, 09:27 PM
Sorry for the confusion...As most of you know, turbos force air into the engine (hence the term "forced induction") so an filter with less resistance, and more flowing ability will work WAAAYY better on a force induced engine than a naturally aspirated one...

pimp86LX
02-25-2003, 09:28 PM
ohya well thats a given. :p

si accord
02-25-2003, 11:35 PM
do you just like, not drive your car, ,that engine is way too damn clean, ,but i like it


,,,opie

Jareds 89 LX-i
02-25-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by si accord
do you just like, not drive your car, ,that engine is way too damn clean, ,but i like it


,,,opie
Heheh...well, 272k miles, so I'd say he probably likes to drive it quite a bit :)

SiR
02-26-2003, 08:38 AM
HAHAHA!!!

Thats great, I love driving my creation, especialy after fixing the car from the collision and coming back from Denver, I couldnt wait to rack up miles again!

89NinjaAccordLX
02-26-2003, 04:32 PM
Now, correct me if I'm wrong... but carbs have a certain CFM rating. It doesn't really matter how open your carb lid is because the carb is only going to pull so much air in the first place (scientifically). Also, the engine has a certain volumetric efficiency... unless you put in more fuel with more air then it also doesn't give any performance gains. You could slap a big ol' monster carb on the motor but with the same amount of fuel going into the chamber then nothing is going to really happen. It just makes your mixture really lean. Now, I'd like to say that I flipped my lid way way back in the day and I love the sound/feel etc. But does it really make sense? No. If anyone can prove to me that flipping the lid actually gives a performance gain please give me a call at 757 589 7886 and my name is Josh. I would like to know WHY you get performance out of it. I'm sick of trying to defend myself with the answer "I just like the sound".

Grant2k
02-26-2003, 08:42 PM
let's say that a stock accord carb flows 250cfm totally open, no filter or anything. a filter might cut it to 225, and an airbox to 220. anything in the way at all will cause it to flow less, and the less you put in the way the more it will flow. it will only flow at it's maximum with nothing in the way at all. so any little bit helps, even though the bits of things like a flipped lid are so small the difference they make is laughable.

89NinjaAccordLX
02-27-2003, 08:16 AM
Actually Grant, the cfm rating of carbs includes the restriction of the filter. This means they take it into account when they rate the carbs. So if its rated at 250cfm then with or without the filter it still pulls 250cfm. The filter box and filter are a part of the carb.

Grant2k
02-27-2003, 08:39 AM
what about a carb like, a Dominator rated at 1050cfm? do they rate them the same? i'm just asking because now i'm curious. like, dragsters don't use air filters, so do they rate the carbs the samw?

89NinjaAccordLX
02-27-2003, 10:04 AM
I dunno bout drag cars or real racing carbs. I'm pretty sure that they'd rate it with whatever components come on the carb. If the carb doesn't have an air filter stock then they probably don't rate the airflow with one. However if they have a carb that has an air filter but they just took it off, then its cfm rating is that of one of the carbs with air filter.