Help!!! 1987 accord hatchback 5th gear is not working

[JimmyBoy1989]

I was driving at about 65 mph and my car just revs and my 5th gear doesn't engage? Does anybody have any idea what could of happend? Does any one have parts for that tranny i believe its a2q5.

[InAccordance]

Common issue with these cars, 5th can go out after a while. Good side is that it can be replaced somewhat easily as 5th is separate from 1 - 4.

[Fls1965]

You might get lucky and just need to change your tranny oil. Pull the 5th gear housing to see if your gears are still any good. Probably not though. Find your nearest 3g Accord at a salvage yard. It’s easy to pull of the 5th gear and housing.There’s several videos to view with a google search.


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[JimmyBoy1989]

Thanks i'll be checking opening the tranny tomorrow to see what happend. Is there by any chance you could give me the links of the videos? i'll appreciate it.

[Fls1965]

Better than a video, here’s a link, from this group, where you can download every manual you’ll ever need to fix your Honda

The 3geez Wiki (http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Main_Page)

Click on “download Honda service manuals” then download the 86-89 accord master manual.

In hindsight, I didn’t find a video when I did this. I also have a Haynes manual which was helpful before I discovered these online manuals.
You’re not getting into anything too deep. You’re just removing the outer housing that you’ll see on the right end of your tranny. About a dozen 10mm bolts, then some big nuts to remove to get the gears off. Just be aware that one of those big nuts are left handed threads, (lefty tightly, righty loosey)
You’re probably going to find that your gears are completely gone.
Take lots of pics before disassembly. And, service your tranny oil to full after your work is complete.
You got this!




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[InAccordance]

Also those nuts inside are 12 pointers if I remember correctly.

[Fls1965]

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[JimmyBoy1989]

well guys the problem was the fifth gear. It was completely worn out. Found another tranny so im just gonna swap out the gear and change all the bearings with a new kit I found on ebay while im at it. Thanks for all the help, much appreciated.

[Fls1965]

Good job!


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[JimmyBoy1989]

how do you post pictures from your downloads? i want to show every one how my tranny looks but it keeps saying upload failed.

[JimmyBoy1989]

9625

[InAccordance]

That's some nice sludge in there.

[Dr_Snooz]

Eek! What a mess!

[JimmyBoy1989]

NO thats because I power washed the outside of the tranny and some water got in there but its all clean now.

[Fixedit]

I am terrified of this happening. I just know it's going to happen when I am severely unprepared to work on it haha

[JimmyBoy1989]

Damn just ran into a problem. My flywheel bolts dont want to budge so i think im gonna have to grind the heads off. Does any one know if the flywheel bolts are the same as the B series or any were I could get them?

[g.frost]

That picture tells the story: Lack of proper lubrication... (to state mildly...:toilet:) Use high quality Manual Transmission Oil, keep it full, and change it regularly; 30-50K mile interval. 5th gear will always be there for you if you take care of her.

[Oldblueaccord]

I am terrified of this happening. I just know it's going to happen when I am severely unprepared to work on it haha

Keep the oil full.

Also dont drive under 45 mph in 5th gear lugging the motor.


I remeber looking for the Honda type flywheel bolts a while ago but I think ARP maybe makes something similar. The are slim head so they are easy to strip out Jimmy.

Try some penetrating oil, some heat with a propane torch and a good 6 point socket to get them to move. Just heat them until they smoke a little "black hot" they dont need to be made cherry red or anything. it will melt off and Lock tite and work the penetrating oil in.

[InAccordance]

Flywheel bolts are 12 points. I had to go buy a socket just for them lol

[Oldblueaccord]

Yep you are correct they are 12 point. Reminds me to look and see if I ever bought new ones or from where.

[JimmyBoy1989]

Hey guys quick question. Does any one know if the input shaft bearing comes out with little or no resistance because mine came out to easy and im kind of scared it might spin in the housing is that normal?

[Oldblueaccord]

Hey guys quick question. Does any one know if the input shaft bearing comes out with little or no resistance because mine came out to easy and im kind of scared it might spin in the housing is that normal?

I think there should be a press fit. You may have to use some green locktight on it to keep it in.