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Mike89Accordcom
04-29-2002, 06:56 PM
I'm just giving some advice for people who dont have wheels yet. Get 16's or 17's. I've lowered my car 2 different times, I have camber kits, etc. 18's are too big. IF you lower it, stick with 1.5" - 2.25". Get an alignment, and camber kti for the front. If you don't then tires will not be even. I'd say 2" - 2.25", for 16's, and 1.5" - 1.75" for 17's.

AccordChemist
04-29-2002, 07:16 PM
just wondering why you think you can go lower on 16's and not 17's? why would it matter the size of rim you have? as long as you have 205/40-17 tires than you overall height of the tire are the same as stock.

Mike89Accordcom
04-29-2002, 07:50 PM
It's easier to go lower with 16's then it is 17's. Sure you can lower the same, but your performance will change according to the rim size. I know this because I put 17's on my car once.

Jims 86LXI HB
04-29-2002, 07:57 PM
For those that might want to autocross their cars, 16" and 17" does not always make a good choice. For them the 15" rim/tire offten makes the most economic and competitive sense, which is why my car has 15's. BUT,.....I'd rather have the look of 16's, so if the above doesn't fit your style, they yes stick with 16's and 17's.

superaccord
04-29-2002, 09:54 PM
what problems did you have with 17 's on ur car. its dropped with sprints 2.25 right, so what was wrong with 17's? just wondering. i want 17's, and i have sprints too.
matt

88Ex-i
04-30-2002, 06:57 PM
I have 17" and i lowered mine 1.75", and I find the ride hight to be perfect. It is noticeably lower, plus its not so low that I bottom out on every single bump.....

Neuspeed87lx
05-01-2002, 07:10 AM
i have 17's on my lowered accord ..sprint 2.25 drop ...there is no problem with it and it looks real good ..i could probally go a little lower.....mabey 2.5 or 3 inches

TeKKnoTeKK
05-01-2002, 11:14 AM
not sure what you mean mike......I am runnin 18's, at the moment my car is lowered 2.5" without a problem. I could actually go another inch or so and be ok, which I will probably end up doing eventually. It all depends on the offset of the wheels along with the size of tires, with 18's anything bigger than a 35 series tire will rub on the wishbone suspension.

Chrome_thangs
05-01-2002, 12:46 PM
I have 18's and i love them, I planned on dropping it how low should i go?

Mike89Accordcom
05-01-2002, 01:05 PM
I would only go 1". I knew a guy with 18's on his 3G, way to big, but anyway, he lowered it an inch, and it looked ok.

TeKKnoTeKK
05-01-2002, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Chrome_thangs
I have 18's and i love them, I planned on dropping it how low should i go?

You gotta go atleast 2.5" man, I have the 2.5" sprints and the wheels fill up the wheel well almost perfectly. I want my 18's to tuck tho, so I am gonna probably go another inch. Yeaaaaaahhh buddy.

sniper556mm
05-01-2002, 09:01 PM
Post a pick of your car on 18's with the drop, I am in the middle of debating over 17's or 18's on my 86 and I will be dropping it and doing camber kits, so I want to see what it will look like I was told a 215/35/18 would work but I wonder if a 215/30/18 would be better, any advice would be nice:poke:

pthump
05-02-2002, 01:05 PM
I lowered my car (struts/ tokico and Eibach sportsline springs) My rear tires don't fit exactly in the wheel well, so when I hit a bump sometimes my right side rear tire hits the lip of the well. I see that many of you have you cars lowered more than mine what's the deal? Do I need a camber kit to correct this????:super: :super: :poke:

tk89acc
05-02-2002, 01:25 PM
here is a couple of pics with 18's. There not the greatest pics in the world but you can get the idea. http://www.streetsourcemag.com/uploads/Ownerprofiles/gspeed19/419200232613PM56431.jpg
http://www.streetsourcemag.com/uploads/Ownerprofiles/gspeed19/419200232505PM87581.jpg

88LXiHB
05-02-2002, 01:50 PM
Mine is better...

tk89acc
05-02-2002, 02:01 PM
Its not as low.:D

88LXiHB
05-02-2002, 02:41 PM
Yea, looks like you dropped it another inch or so. How do you drive it?? :huh:

88Ex-i
05-02-2002, 07:15 PM
I stated earlier that I dropped my car 1.75" with 17". I was rubbing on the back end quite a bit, and never knew why it was so bad. I just got new shocks put in today, and what a difference. The ride height went up a little, but no more rubbing and it handles so much better. Now I can see that I could drop it another inch at least. Damn....my old shocks were really shot.....:mad:

tk89acc
05-02-2002, 10:43 PM
Its on air ride now.:smokin:

TeKKnoTeKK
05-03-2002, 12:53 AM
you got air bags or air shocks?

Neuspeed87lx
05-03-2002, 07:02 AM
you have an aweseome car but i think the rims look too big

HostileJava
05-03-2002, 07:15 AM
88LXiHB, what color do you have your car painted?

tk89acc
05-03-2002, 07:15 AM
their actually called air cylinders. It replaces the factory spring and strut and they bolt strait on.

Chrome_thangs
05-03-2002, 02:53 PM
I don't have a digi cam so i'll have to wait for them to be processed :mad:
I'll probably drop it 1.5" Just enough for no camber kit.
Will i need stiffer shocks?:confused:
BELOW are what they are

Don87LX
05-04-2002, 06:53 AM
new shocks are always a good idea when lowering.

Jims 86LXI HB
05-04-2002, 08:13 AM
Yes you need new struts, but not just any strut will do. All lower springs are stiffer/firmer. You need to install struts that are likewise firmer or your car will ride and drive like crap. Tokico H.P.'s should be considered the starting point and they aren't that expensive at $235 from shox.com. Koni specials are ideal with no bounce whatsoever and a nice firm feel without being annoyingly stiff. They cost more, but are worth every penny, $424+free shipping from shox.com.

smufguy
05-04-2002, 09:06 PM
well this is what i have come up with after a lot of research and talking with a bunch of ppl in my SAE group. Having a larger tire/wheel would make a lot of difference. the engine will rev low to get to the same speed that u gotta achive on a stock tire/wheel. that also means that the torque will be not the same to all your wheels at that speed cause the engine revs lil low. and also about dropping. its all fine dropping exactly 1 inch, but anything lower that that would screw with yoru CG (center of gravity) and your roll center (which is crucial for roll over factor, understeer and oversteer). I personally am not gonna go way past 15 inches though i know its gonna be sucking bad. BUt its not gonna be in the next few years. Do read a lot more about suspensions, coil overs and wheels before u start putting stuff on. I am pretty sure we guys here drive hard with our 3gs and thats why it applies to us even more. and i am sure every guy who changes is shock changes his coils too, but ppl who dont do it, gotta do it asap. To have a right wheel frequency and dampening, u need to have the right shocks and coils replaced at the same time. :) :cool:

TeKKnoTeKK
05-04-2002, 10:34 PM
you have the same tires I do chrome....EXACTLY hehe.

accord-ing to me
03-05-2005, 02:43 AM
I was told that if I put 18's on my 88 3g that I would have to have a camber kit. I understood the camber kit was only necessary when lowering

smufguy
03-05-2005, 07:43 AM
I was told that if I put 18's on my 88 3g that I would have to have a camber kit. I understood the camber kit was only necessary when lowering

yes sir, u need a camber kit only when u lower the car. But 18s? shit................ i hope u only drive that for show.

EricW
03-05-2005, 07:57 AM
wow this thread is almost 3 years old.

smufguy
03-05-2005, 10:44 AM
wow this thread is almost 3 years old.

but im glad he made a search rather than make a new thread. :)

jigga225
03-05-2005, 08:14 PM
nah man, you shouldn't need a camber kit with just putting 18z on your car.
Nothing wrong with 18s....just get the right size tire and offset.
peace

zero.counter
03-05-2005, 09:03 PM
Weak engine + big rims/tires = off'd speedo, decreased fuel economy due to the
larger diameter of the wheels among some reasons. They seem to be just too big and heavy to be pushed normally. But they will definately fit, just make sure that the offset is +. All show, that's for sure imho.

accord-ing to me
03-07-2005, 05:59 PM
Hey guys, hate to look/sound like a fool but I am new to the import scene, I have always customized Chevy's but with the cost of fuel who can afford to drive the gas guzzling beast's? I got a great deal on a set of 18's but am willing to swap out if they really won't work. If there is a thread to answer this question please send me there. I have seen several 3g's in the threads that have 18's and are lowered on top of that, maybe those are show only. I really appreciate your input, I got a good deal on a set of Dunlop tires today and was going to put these on tomorrow unless I can be talked out of it. thanks

Justin86
03-07-2005, 06:29 PM
You can get 18's but you need the correct offset 45 or so, but going that big is all show unless you got +250whp under the hood. They best wheel size to power ratio is 15" any bigger is all for looks unless you got the power.
and thanks for using the search ;)

smufguy
03-08-2005, 12:30 PM
the reason is that the 18" wheel uses a rather small and impractical side wall on the tire and one small pothole, ur rim is done for good. So if you are like many here and would like to drive your car pretty much all the time, 17" would be the largest rim size i would go.

For the offset, it all depends on the width of the rim. I am sure that the width you will be getting with an 18" rim is more likely 7 or 7.5 and they would require an 45+mm of positive offset. Just like what Justin mentioned above.