Trailing arm bushing options

[bscanlan]

So I am approaching being done with replacing all bushings with urethane, and it occurs to me that I have not seen any such options for the trailing arm-to-body bushings which are so soft and sloppy. Has anyone found a compatible bushing to fit (like the one pictured, which of course is far too small)?10177

[Oldblueaccord]

https://www.3geez.com/forum/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes/121586-rear-trailing-arm-bushings.html

#23 correct? in the drawing.

I havent heard anyone replacing it. Theres a civic style arm that alot of companies make a bushing/sperical bearing for might be an option.

EDIT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwREGo5iy5o this is the one im thinking maybe 6:35 min mark.

Hard race video install hits about 6 min mark as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PnvQBs-gco&t=19s

nice to see you back on the forums. Let us know what you think.

[Oldblueaccord]

https://kingpinmachine.com/

I have my eye on this guy for a while might be one to try out.

[conozo]

I found an autoparts warehouse supplier that has these trailing arm bushings listed. I'm sure they are no name brand but anything is better than stock at this point. They had a minimum order of 4 so I ordered 8 (4 sets) I will sell you guys the remaining sets when i get them, shipping was expensive and says 24 to 42 days so, dont hold your breath. I'll let you know when i have them and when i can test to make sure they fit. I am confident they will fit as they looked correct online, are listed for the correct car, and are listed by the honda oem part number. They will be about $40 including shipping for a set.

[Oldblueaccord]

Thank you!

Keep us posted!

[Dr_Snooz]

Has anyone tried the windshield adhesive trick yet? I'm considering it.

[conozo]

I found an autoparts warehouse supplier that has these trailing arm bushings listed. I'm sure they are no name brand but anything is better than stock at this point. They had a minimum order of 4 so I ordered 8 (4 sets) I will sell you guys the remaining sets when i get them, shipping was expensive and says 24 to 42 days so, dont hold your breath. I'll let you know when i have them and when i can test to make sure they fit. I am confident they will fit as they looked correct online, are listed for the correct car, and are listed by the honda oem part number. They will be about $40 including shipping for a set.

Sorry to disappoint but they just now refunded my money to say these are not available. Mine definitely need replaced bad. I'm looking into the DIY poly bushings now. Don't know much about it but i assume i can take the old bushing out, clean out all the rubber and pour new poly stuff in there.

On my other forum for Insights, many used the windshield adhesive trick for the engine mounts and it definately made them stiffer but they did work. I assume windshield adhesive would work pretty good on these mounts but i think you would need to take them off and make sure its straight before gunking it up.

[ShiRen]

What is the OD of these bushings?

[Oldblueaccord]

https://www.hardrace.com/Product_detail.asp?id=2253

https://www.hardrace.com/Product_detail.asp?id=2242


Would it be worth calling an asking what the dimension of these are?

[ShiRen]

Probably. They should be able to be turned down if theyre a few thou too large like the control arm bushings.
I just want to point out that the solid bushings are $300 YEESH.
I was really hoping an energy suspension bushing would fit. Don't remember what size the civic/integra bushings are now, I did when I last posted. I should really just grab some, theyre $35. https://www.suspension.com/16.7106

[Oldblueaccord]

Go big or go home?

[ShiRen]

I sent a message to hardrace, but I also ordered the Energy Suspension 16.7106 for the Civic/Integra. I think its a bit bigger than ours so maybe it can be turned down on a lathe.

[Oldblueaccord]

I wish I could help more but I dont have any xtras of those suspension parts to play around with.

[ShiRen]

I have a whole car to play around with, but the bad part is I have the rear end "jacked" up on its old wheels, its a little hard to get to. I will dig it out if I really need it lol.

[Oldblueaccord]

Probably. They should be able to be turned down if theyre a few thou too large like the control arm bushings.
I just want to point out that the solid bushings are $300 YEESH.
I was really hoping an energy suspension bushing would fit. Don't remember what size the civic/integra bushings are now, I did when I last posted. I should really just grab some, theyre $35. https://www.suspension.com/16.7106

2 - 3317 - Trailing Arm Bushing -OD=75.42mm(2.96in) ID=29.10mm(1.141in) ,length=51.21mm(2in)

Thats the specs of the civic bushing off your link

[ShiRen]

I was looking all over for that, I knew I saw it was 3" somewhere. Yeah it should be able to be turned down, it will need a steel sleeve inside it.

[Oldblueaccord]

I saw a 3.16 or a 3.19 measurement some place and then the site was offline and I can remember where I saw it. It might have been youtube.

[ShiRen]

I got them in, I didn't bother measuring them because they are absolutely massive lol. More than enough to turn down, now I am more worried about the width. It might be A LOT to turn down.

[conozo]

ShiRen

Any update on this. I can't wait a whole lot longer to replace all my bushings before getting tires for the winter on the car. If you think it can work, ill buy a set and have them turned. My brother in law has a lathe I could use.

Thanks for your efforts so far.

[Oldblueaccord]

Im wondering if the front lower control arm bushing might be the way to go. I think that bushing is 1.100"

[ShiRen]

I think the Civic ones will be fine, I started driving the car without aligning it, I just eyeballed the toe, never even took the trailing arms out. I did look at the width though and its actually pretty close, for having to turn it down it really should be a pretty good starting place.

[gp02a0083]

I was looking all over for that, I knew I saw it was 3" somewhere. Yeah it should be able to be turned down, it will need a steel sleeve inside it.

I have a spare OEM NOS honda bushing, was gonna take measurements to call energy or make a cast from it , but you might have gotten a better start on this. if you still need the measurements i can get them, just gotta find where i put it.

[ShiRen]

That would definitely be helpful

[Oldblueaccord]

I have a spare OEM NOS honda bushing, was gonna take measurements to call energy or make a cast from it , but you might have gotten a better start on this. if you still need the measurements i can get them, just gotta find where i put it.

That would be super!

[conozo]

Here is a drawing of the dimensions. The civic bushings posted above aren't quite wide enough. The only issue i see with that is over time the bushing will slide out to one side of the sleeve.

http://honda.conozo.com/pics_3geez/Large%20Rear%20Control%20Arm%20Bushings%20Measurem ents.png

[ShiRen]

Where did you get the dimension for the width? I wash I had the bushings with me right now because I will 100% forget to measure them when I get home. The civic bushings gotta be real close to 1.5" in the middle. The ID is too large though so a custom sleeve will have to be made.

[conozo]

I opted for using 3M Auto Glass Urethane Windshield Adhesive, 08693, 10.5 fl oz Cartridge to mostly fill in the bushing. The OEM bushing allows for a lot of twisting side to side but not much other directional movement. I filled in the gaps about 2/3 total on each side and put some extra around the top and bottom. It may not be the best but after looking at diy poly bushings they seemed way to stiff. This will buy some time to get it right next time. Also the small bushings on the other end of the trailing arm i filled in as much as i could since there are no replacement options for those at all/ever it seems like. They are the same style as all the other rear bushings but just half the length.

Posting pictures before for reference and how I filled it.

http://honda.conozo.com/pics_3geez/TrailingArmBushingReference&Filled%20(1)%20(Small).jpg
http://honda.conozo.com/pics_3geez/TrailingArmBushingReference&Filled%20(2)%20(Small).jpg
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http://honda.conozo.com/pics_3geez/TrailingArmBushingReference&Filled%20(10)%20(Small).jpg
http://honda.conozo.com/pics_3geez/TrailingArmBushingReference&Filled%20(12)%20(Small).jpg

[ShiRen]

Interesting solution. I did something similar with the rear engine mount in my ctr, but it was a poly insert instead, I guess the only difference here is the silicone or whatever it is is not a higher durometer than the og bushing. Thats one way to fix up an old bushing thats not totally blown I guess, I like it more on the training arm to knuckle bushings, no way there is a replacement for those. If I can get underneath my parts car to get a second set of arms I might opt for this on one set. Any reason you picked the windshield adhesive?

[conozo]

My bushing wasn't completely shot but it was not as stiff as it would have been new. This solution is all over the internet for engine mount "fixes" so since this bushing looks so similar to an engine mount and doesn't have any true weight on it, im going to give this a try. I was moving it around today after it dried and i think im going to fill the rest in completely. It was still pretty loose, the urethane is pretty flexible, much more than i anticipated it would be.

My end goal is to have a bushing that moves but is not sloppy. I didn't want the super stuff poly bushings that everyone does diy.

[Dr_Snooz]

Keep me posted on how this works, please. That's long been my fallback plan if I end up not being able to find bushings in the future.

[conozo]

9 month/ 10,000 mile update.

Bushings are still good. I did not end up filling it in completely, I installed them as pictured above. To note, before filling them in, spray them with some kind of cleaner, I used brake cleaner to clean off all the grease so the new adhesive would stick and it has. I give my approval for this mod for only this bushing.