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sawyersmith
02-21-2021, 01:14 PM
Ok, I have an 89 Accord LX. I was doing an oil change today when I noticed the plastic cover that bolts to the frame right next to the belts was loose. The bolt holding it in place is missing.

It’s a shot in the dark, but anyone know what size bolt I need for that?

I can go buy a few different sizes and try and get close if that doesn’t work, but thought I’d try here.

I have a picture, but can’t seem to post it here for some reason.

Anyways, if anyone happens to know, thanks for the help!

Dr_Snooz
02-21-2021, 07:44 PM
Post your pic somewhere else and link to it here.

sawyersmith
02-21-2021, 09:06 PM
10605I think I got it. Had to use a computer browser.

Thank you!

sawyersmith
02-22-2021, 01:57 PM
Update: I’ve tried M5, M6, and M7. No dice yet.

Anyone?

Sandwich
02-22-2021, 02:39 PM
If its for the plastic splashguard that runs round the underside of the front end, then all the bolts holding it in are the same, not sure on size, 5 or 6mm from memory with fat 10mm heads and fat built in washers. Theyre quite easy to spot if you have a look where the splashguard is mounted and they'll be your best reference.

sawyersmith
02-22-2021, 04:03 PM
If its for the plastic splashguard that runs round the underside of the front end, then all the bolts holding it in are the same, not sure on size, 5 or 6mm from memory with fat 10mm heads and fat built in washers. Theyre quite easy to spot if you have a look where the splashguard is mounted and they'll be your best reference.

It is, but this particular guard seems to cover the belts.

Going to do a trans drain and fill tomorrow so will see if a nearby bolt will fit.

Oldblueaccord
02-22-2021, 07:12 PM
8x 1,25 would be my guess.

conozo
02-22-2021, 08:46 PM
I don't know exactly what this bolt is called but it will have a 10 mm head on it. Then it will have an integrated wide washer. Then it has a thicker unthreaded shaft for 3 mm and then the threads will be the same as all the other typical 10 mm bolts in the car.

If you get any kind of bolt that matches all the other 10 mm socket bolts and just put a big washer on it. it will hold it just fine.

ShiRen
02-23-2021, 05:16 AM
90119-SE0-000
Looks like M6x1

sawyersmith
02-23-2021, 07:26 AM
I don't know exactly what this bolt is called but it will have a 10 mm head on it. Then it will have an integrated wide washer. Then it has a thicker unthreaded shaft for 3 mm and then the threads will be the same as all the other typical 10 mm bolts in the car.

If you get any kind of bolt that matches all the other 10 mm socket bolts and just put a big washer on it. it will hold it just fine.

That was the plan, but I couldn’t get them to start.

I’m going to swing by the auto parts store and see if I can match it up to an existing one.

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90119-SE0-000
Looks like M6x1

Awesome. Thanks a lot. I thought I tried that size, but really need to get it up on ramps to get a better view.

Dr_Snooz
02-24-2021, 08:15 PM
Those are a specialty bolt with an integrated washer and a smooth shank spacer specially designed to hold the plastic guard securely without splitting it when you torque down the bolts.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.PrB8am_41eNI5IVTckwwKAHaFj?w=184&h=180&c=7&o=5&dpr=1.5&pid=1.7

It's an M6x13 and will be terrifically hard to find. Even if you succeed in finding one, it probably won't do you any good. Those holes see a lot of water, and even in ideal climates the threads rust and fail easily. You might have better luck with a fat, coarse-thread sheet metal screw.

ShiRen
02-25-2021, 05:41 AM
Yeah I'm kind of wondering if there isn't a broken bolt in there and thats why you couldn't thread anything in... All of mine came out fine except for that exact same one... snapped

sawyersmith
02-25-2021, 11:20 AM
I don’t see one in there, but will take a closer look. Might just be better cutting the flapping plastic off and calling it a day.

Dr_Snooz
02-25-2021, 04:58 PM
Seems a little drastic when a coarse thread screw will work great. Still, I agree that some re-engineering is warranted. Getting that splash guard off seems to require a lot more effort than it should. Replacing the bolts with some quick-release snaps would be a vast improvement, but I haven't yet figured out how to make that work.

sawyersmith
02-25-2021, 05:25 PM
Seems a little drastic when a coarse thread screw will work great. Still, I agree that some re-engineering is warranted. Getting that splash guard off seems to require a lot more effort than it should. Replacing the bolts with some quick-release snaps would be a vast improvement, but I haven't yet figured out how to make that work.

I just mean the piece that’s dangling in my original picture. Not the whole thing.

I took one of the other screws off that look just like one above. It sort of starts but immediately gets tight. If I put some pressure do it, I could probably get it to go. Maybe make way for the replacement.

Dr_Snooz
02-25-2021, 08:29 PM
I wonder if we could use something like this: Summit Racing SUM-G1644 Summit Racing® Self-Ejecting Butterfly Quick-Release Fasteners | Summit Racing (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g1644)

https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/SUM-G1644_OH.jpg?rep=False

sawyersmith
02-26-2021, 04:58 AM
I wonder if we could use something like this: Summit Racing SUM-G1644 Summit Racing® Self-Ejecting Butterfly Quick-Release Fasteners | Summit Racing (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g1644)

https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/SUM-G1644_OH.jpg?rep=False

I’ve thought about something similar. Might go to fastenal and see if I can find a m6 bolt with just a wingnut head. That would work as long as you could actually turn it.

I think I’m going to have to get a standard bolt and washer and perhaps install it with a powered driver.

ShiRen
02-26-2021, 05:24 AM
Why haven't I thought to cover my car in dzus clips until now?

sawyersmith
03-01-2021, 12:08 PM
After exhausting all other options, I went with the coarse thread screw. Worked like a charm.

Thanks for the help everyone!

Oldblueaccord
03-01-2021, 12:29 PM
Why haven't I thought to cover my car in dzus clips until now?

Because there a total PIA to set up correctly.

Dr_Snooz
03-01-2021, 08:14 PM
Bigger PITA than struggling with that stupid shield?

ShiRen
03-02-2021, 05:32 AM
My shield is probably going to be replaced with a piece of plywood anyway lmao

Dr_Snooz
03-04-2021, 09:27 PM
Plywood ...FTMFW!!!!!

ROFLMAO!!!

ShiRen
03-05-2021, 05:14 AM
Believe it or not, most splitters are made out of plywood, unless you have a carbon fiber budget

Dr_Snooz
03-05-2021, 09:07 PM
Shows what I know about :rice:

ShiRen
03-08-2021, 05:13 AM
Front Splitter Kit – Racebred Components (https://racebredcomponents.com/products/racebred-components-front-splitter-kit?variant=34725097767047)

I want to defend myself but this is the sheer amount of clams I'll dish out for plywood on my ctr

Dr_Snooz
03-15-2021, 09:31 PM
That would be pimp on your 3g!

ShiRen
03-16-2021, 12:52 PM
Actually I might consider using their quick release brackets... they ctr needs a splitter waaaay more than the accord rn though, the old girl can get a lowes special prototype

Dr_Snooz
03-18-2021, 08:43 PM
The plywood just baffles me. That's so not the right material. I'd build it from a sheet of PVC or acrylic glass or Lexan or even fiberglass over foam. Plywood would be my last choice. :dunno:

ShiRen
03-19-2021, 04:09 AM
Carbon fiber is always the first choice, but that's not always doable. The plywood is sealed and stronger than most fiberglass. I have tried to build plywood out of off the shelf plastic sheets, haven't found anything thick enough yet. Basically, if you can't stand on the nose with it mounted its not strong enough. Plywood usually is if its mounted correctly.

Dr_Snooz
03-19-2021, 07:14 PM
Sure, it's totally water tight ...until the first stone chip. But they do it, I guess. And they sell, so who am I to argue with success?