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accordlx
04-29-2002, 07:06 PM
What does this do for my car?

---- EDIT ----
>sorry have to add this in here.

Ok since this is the first post on the thread I'll let you all know...
I ran a search on all the threads that delt with flipping the carb air box lid and merged them all! Well all the ones I could find.
So the info is here for sure if you are looking for the reasons to flip the lid (performance gain or what have you).
There is also a lot of other good tips... you just have to read thru it all.
Have fun.

If you're just interested in the how-to
click the link below.

HOW TO FLIP YOUR LID (http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=8067)


- A20A1

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XBLCanterX
04-29-2002, 10:39 PM
lets air in easier...more air.


more air = more power

YK86
04-30-2002, 12:10 AM
LOL. Check out my thread "1st post" below.

accordlx
04-30-2002, 02:19 PM
Damnit. I should have read your post. That way I could have known what flipping my lid does.

Now how do muffler bearings work and do they really quiet your car down that much?

A20A1
04-30-2002, 08:51 PM
I'm about to flip my lid... I can't find any muffler bearings :confused:

:lol

ACCORD EX
05-01-2002, 12:46 AM
hey A20A1 is that your car in the Avatar ?

MIKE

A20A1
05-01-2002, 12:57 AM
You mean the not yet painted, lowered, hood scooped, in desperate need of some rims accord? Why yes, it most certainly is.... :D

hondaaccord_86
05-01-2002, 09:22 AM
would a flipped lid and air intake both work?

staticpat
05-01-2002, 08:24 PM
how do you flip the lid :( i know jack about carbs. is ther a manual somewhere? and would this even help in the alabama summer?

Don87LX
05-02-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by accordlx
Damnit. I should have read your post. That way I could have known what flipping my lid does.

Now how do muffler bearings work and do they really quiet your car down that much?


muffler bearings!!!:lol be sure to check your head light fluid too.:D

Micah 89LXi
05-11-2002, 11:58 PM
yes i realize that i have no tail lights or dash lights..im working on that....i was just wondering what is the flipped airbox lid mod..and how hard is it to do..and what does it do..if anything?

pimp86LX
05-12-2002, 12:48 AM
Port Perry RAM air!! LOL:lol :lol

sorry, inside joke..(PP being my home town) everyone and i mean everyone did this "mod"

it just lets air in closer to the filter, therefore its less restrictive.
-as is my understanding, please correct me, i could be mistaken

Paul tha :pimp:

ACCORD EX
05-12-2002, 08:47 AM
flipping the lid means ! turn over the cover of the airbox and screw it in on the other side ! you'll have a nice openning between the airbox and the cover ! and it will let air come into the carb easiely !

dXsquared
05-12-2002, 10:43 AM
and it sounds like a superbike at like 4000 rpm. it sounds ool and adds a dyno proven 1 HP w/ a stock flter and a dyno proven 2.5 HP with a KandN
Travis

1989 DX R
05-12-2002, 10:44 AM
WOOT! Now I can have 100.5 HP!!!! :super: :super:

dXsquared
05-12-2002, 11:01 AM
no more 98 its up to 100.5. umm and exhaust will and some too!! but if its old and worn it will be around 100 with open exhaust even!
Travis

CoAsTeR
05-12-2002, 04:03 PM
yeah, that damp flipped airbox lid mod... take a weekend, think it over.. its gonna need some maj0r re-tooling of the carb & surrounding area. You're better off just doing a complete motor swap than considering this mod....... Then again, if you don't have your airbox lid flipped... you're just not race ready ;) hehehehe..

flip the lid... screw it back down.... only takes a few hours... err.. seconds :stick:

Micah 89LXi
05-13-2002, 08:01 PM
uhhh mines EFI..so basically this means nothing to me?..the whole flipped airbox lid is useless?

Dutchboy
05-13-2002, 09:19 PM
all you do is flip the box???


Show me pics....I want 100.5 hp too!!:super:

er i mean 99.5.....gots to get a k&n yet
Tell me more..im stupid and slow but i still get there
Ben

CoAsTeR
05-13-2002, 09:22 PM
unscrew the two wingnuts on the top of your airbox. take the lide off, you can now see the airfilter.
put the lid back on UPSIDE DOWN... put the wingnuts back on.

the whole .5 may not do much, but it sure sounds good when driving :)

hondaaccord_86
05-13-2002, 10:33 PM
my wingnuts won't fit back on...

Hoshizakido
05-14-2002, 12:15 AM
i feel sorry for you carborated ppl....its all good still a 3gee thats all that matters

ACCORD EX
05-14-2002, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by hondaaccord_86
my wingnuts won't fit back on...

you have to use a hammer to lower the area around the wingnuts ! ( be gentle ! ) :)


MIKE

CoAsTeR
05-14-2002, 06:35 AM
I had the same problem... just put your bodyweight over the lid and press down hard while screwing the wingnut back on. I found it went on easier upside down (the wingnut that is) because the threads were closer to that side... all you need is a couple threads to hold and within a week or so, everything fits together no problem.... my airfilter may be squished a little but ahh well.... shit happens :)

ACCORD EX
05-14-2002, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by CoAsTeR
I had the same problem... just put your bodyweight over the lid and press down hard while screwing the wingnut back on.

that's little risky ! you can break the bolts that are comin out of the carb ! and believe you don't wanna do that ! :p


MIKE

Jdub07
05-14-2002, 07:57 AM
DON"T TAKE A HAMMER TO YOUR CAR! DON"T PUSH DOWN HARD,......all you need to do is take out the little rubber things that are in the lid, now you will have just enough room to screw them back one! Keep the rubber things you may want them some day.

ACCORD EX
05-14-2002, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by Jdub07
DON"T TAKE A HAMMER TO YOUR CAR! DON"T PUSH DOWN HARD,......all you need to do is take out the little rubber things that are in the lid, now you will have just enough room to screw them back one! Keep the rubber things you may want them some day.

you are the right one of us all ! i tried to do the same thing but i already didn't found those rubber things on my lid ! :D
so i had to do the hammer thing ! but i did it on the ground not on the carb it self ! :)


MIKE

CoAsTeR
05-14-2002, 12:55 PM
I dont know what kinda filters you guys are using but I didn't have to take a hammer to my lid... perhaps my filter isn't as high as yours, that why I didn't need to 'reshape' my lid. hahahah...
I left the rubber things in as well, and it still fit no prob. ahh well, as long as it gets on, thats all that matters :)

ACCORD EX
05-14-2002, 01:05 PM
it differs from car to car ! :D

MIKE

staticpat
05-14-2002, 01:18 PM
does the lid flipping have any bad effects at all? it sounds good till i can hack my own cai

ACCORD EX
05-14-2002, 01:27 PM
teh carb may freeze if it freezes out side ! :)

MIKE

1988starter
05-15-2002, 04:54 AM
for you efi guys you can clear your intake pipe.

Micah 89LXi
05-15-2002, 09:31 AM
"EFI guy" okay and what does clearing the intake pipe entail?

CoAsTeR
05-15-2002, 11:53 AM
yeah, like wtf is that? I've drilled holes in a catalyst before, and removed the little balls inside for better exhaust flow, so that when a cop looks, the 'catalyst' is still there. Of course... that was on my 5.0L regal... I dont think the same applies here hhehehehehe :bandit:

CoAsTeR
05-15-2002, 11:54 AM
You can clear a muffler too.... just have straight pipe right through the body of a muffler.... looks like a muffler is there, but it really isn't ;) Did that to a Chevy Nova...

ButtZ
05-15-2002, 08:18 PM
I had no idea this many people had old accords and moded them
i actually just bought an Lx
for 500 bucks
and well im gonna do the flipped thing
and i want to get an exauhst system but have no friggin clue where to go
ITS A CARB!!!!!
lol
OKay well any ideas will help
ohh and headers would be nice too!!!!!!

TY

STEVE-O!

carbed86lx
05-28-2002, 04:07 PM
Its finally warm in michigan and i fliped the lid and with my new magnaflow street series exhaust and 2.25 piping from headers back eith a high flow cat. It is sweet sounding! its notlike fast and the ferious but a nice mellow vrooommm especially at like 5000 rpms. i would i highly recomend fliping the lid. i am also working on carb intake at my local college. hopefully have that done soon.:pimp:

A20A1
05-28-2002, 05:03 PM
http://a9.cpimg.com/image/AD/D4/10291629-b939-01F400D1-.jpg

Like this... :)

88DXcoupe
05-28-2002, 07:54 PM
does flipping the air cleaner lid really do anything?

RyanLXi
05-28-2002, 08:13 PM
the only thing flipping the air lid does is make you think its better. it releaves pressure but puts in hot air. if it was mine i woudnt do it but its your choice. its actually kind of bad for the carb, it may seem a tad faster cuz the relieved pressure but i wouldnt even bother unless it made it feel like a mustang which no way in hell from only flipping the air lid and putting an exhaust on it. thats just what i think but it dont matter anyways

ACCORD EX
05-28-2002, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by 88DXcoupe
does flipping the air cleaner lid really do anything?

it lets more air to flow into the carb ! more power ! :D

disadvantages !: 1. carb freezing when its freezing outside
2. filter getting dirty quicker than a non flipped air box ! :D

MIKE

RyanLXi
05-29-2002, 02:34 PM
you forgot a #3 hot air=not good but yea it does add a 100th of a horsepower

1988starter
05-30-2002, 08:57 AM
Hot air = not good on EFI
Hot air = nothing much on carb

3rd GEN
05-30-2002, 10:11 AM
Hot air = not good on EFI

Hot air = nothing much on carb

thats very true..

hot air doesn't do anything to the carb.. it actually needs warm air. thats what prevents it from freezing in winter, when it's freezing out..

cuz if ya look at it.. there is tube coming off your heat shield over the headers.. this tube brings heat off the headers to your crab..

so if you flip your lid, it is not using that little tube, and thus you are just drawing air in from your engine bay.. which in the middle of summer, would actually beel slightly cooler then the air comin from the header..

ACCORD EX
05-30-2002, 11:32 PM
i think hot aire is bad all the time ! hot air = less O2 which means insuffecient burning ! colder air = more O2 ! and by cold air i mean cold not freezing ! :)

MIKE

RyanLXi
05-31-2002, 05:22 PM
anyway you wanna look at it it aint gonna make it any faster....slower if anything

Mantis88LX
05-31-2002, 06:45 PM
what? :confused:

CoAsTeR
06-01-2002, 06:04 AM
there is minimal to no performance gain by flippin' the lid.... it just sounds better which gives the car a faster feel to it. I flipped mine, and love it!

Mantis88LX
06-01-2002, 06:14 AM
umm ok, i flipped my back over to the stock way and the car sucked ass, it felt like it wasnt getting enough air,

flipped it over and it is so much better, throttle respone, acceleration...

try it for yourself and see

87AccordsterLx
06-03-2002, 01:45 PM
I'll have to jump in and say that it sure made a difference to me... I live in So.Cal and it hot here most of the time so I dont have a problem with freezing... So I would say if you live in a decient climate that you sould definitly do it....

n300zx
06-03-2002, 04:38 PM
flipping the lid makes it sound better which is worth it and other then dirtier air filters not much cons to it...

also I heard this somewhere:

dyno proven gain:
1.0 HP with paper air filter
2.5 HP with K&N

staticpat
06-05-2002, 07:58 AM
my flipped lid increases my cockiness by 30%
it makes me think im a racecar so i speed by crappy cars, and gas it out of parking lots and stop lights.

CoAsTeR
06-05-2002, 12:52 PM
as crude and ignorant as it sounded, I think that staticpat may have it right :rolleyes:

staticpat
06-05-2002, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by CoAsTeR
as crude and ignorant as it sounded, I think that staticpat may have it right :rolleyes:

im sensing some hate lately........ :) but its true, lid flipping doesn't change anything except in your mind (and mindset).

A20A1
06-05-2002, 06:02 PM
The main difference is throttle response... the Hp you get is from less restriction... but after a while of driving the heat will start to hurt performance cause the carb and intake manifold are already hot enough to vaporise the fuel...

accordlx
07-09-2002, 06:46 PM
Hehe, this is the first thread I started on this board. I just thought I would dig it out for old times sake. Just being an Accord nerd. :smokin:

Bobs89LXi
07-09-2002, 08:31 PM
Chris,

I'll give you my spare muffler bearings. They are on a shelf in my garage, next to a can of relative bearing grease. :p

pimp86LX
07-09-2002, 08:47 PM
i got dem muffla bearings....came in a kit wit da piston return springs...now my ryde's mayd tyte yo

POS carb
07-09-2002, 09:07 PM
I got hydraulic lifters and a roller cam! :rolleyes:

1989se-i
08-19-2002, 07:34 PM
Ive been noticing alot of you guys have flipped air lids. What exaclty does that do, and how can i do it? :P

Mantis88LX
08-19-2002, 07:35 PM
that is only for carbed accords, you have a se-i so you are fuel injected, you can get a intake setup

staticpat
08-19-2002, 07:43 PM
hey, howd you get an sei for $500! i put out the same amount of dough as you and i gots a carbed 4 dr automatic crapbucket.

A20A1
08-19-2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by staticpat
hey, howd you get an sei for $500! i put out the same amount of dough as you and i gots a carbed 4 dr automatic crapbucket.

shhh.... watch your language. :lol

staticpat
08-19-2002, 07:55 PM
sorry, forgot where i was, dont want to get gangbanged.

1989se-i
08-19-2002, 08:02 PM
i got it fer $500 cause some rich girl smashed the front-passenger side into a brick wall

87AccordsterLx
08-19-2002, 08:07 PM
damn that sucks :banghead:

sanjay
08-19-2002, 11:55 PM
yeah so what does the flipped air lid do anyway?
And what is the best intake for an A20A4 engine?

87AccordsterLx
08-20-2002, 01:00 AM
for carbed engines it just allows an unrestricted flow of air into the carb.... The air is taken straight into the air filter unstead of being pulled through the fender well --- through some tubing---past a small piece of plastic that further restricts it then through the air filter and into the carb.... make any sence??

1988starter
08-20-2002, 10:07 AM
As for an intake for A20A4 get any 92 civic intake it will work. A lot of people have got the AEM one as oppsed to the APC ne because better quality and of course the K&N filter.

DavidRCT
08-21-2002, 07:24 PM
I have a carb. How can i do the flipped air lid thing? If there's any site that has instructions on how to do it, i would appreciate if anybody could tell me the address or simply tellme how to do it. Thsnk,

Dave:banghead:

staticpat
08-21-2002, 07:50 PM
man it took me like 3 weeks to find out what it was too, no one would explain it, i just hearsd lots of jokes and references. dont you hate that??

A20A1
08-21-2002, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by staticpat
man it took me like 3 weeks to find out what it was too, no one would explain it, i just hearsd lots of jokes and references. dont you hate that??


LOL, man do you realize what you are saying... first you say how you hated that no one explains it. then you don't explain it either.
Pass on the knowledge bro.... :lol

1988starter
08-22-2002, 05:58 AM
OK take of the air filter lid the remove the rubber gromits and pit the lid back on upside down

staticpat
08-22-2002, 08:09 AM
yeah it was kinda a joke. anyway... this will just let alot more air in, just make sure to check the filter more often, and dont have any oil leaks.

matrixdrrrrr
08-23-2002, 09:33 AM
after you flip the air lid, how much power can you expect? and is there a danger of the filter not catching everything (do to the flipped lid)?

1988starter
08-23-2002, 01:21 PM
not too much ower but a nice sound

matrixdrrrrr
08-23-2002, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by 1988starter
not too much ower but a nice sound

nice sound? whats it sound like? (low revs/high revs/etc..)

staticpat
08-23-2002, 09:08 PM
sounds like a dirt bike. i noticed better throttle response and increased cockiness, and all my friends thought i had engine mods from the sound.

87AccordsterLx
08-23-2002, 09:17 PM
I noticed a definite power gain... the sound on the low end is like a slight hissing.. its the air being sucked through the filter... the high end is more like an amplification of the normal engine noise... its nice... I would never go back to stock... put a k&n filter in there.....

staticpat
08-24-2002, 08:06 AM
yeah, if you were gonna go flipped lid it would be well worth it to get a k&n drop in filter.

matrixdrrrrr
08-24-2002, 01:32 PM
k&n filters run for like 20 bone if im not mistaken? And are pretty much universal? Nice sound, more power, and a cleaner engine is important to me... anyone know what sort of power/sound i can expect from a k&n filter?

1988starter
08-24-2002, 05:58 PM
Deeper sound and deffantly will clean the air better.

ImporTypeRx7
09-11-2002, 05:23 AM
Ive been reading about flipping my air box lid to get some more air into the engine. Ive been reading some recent posts and some epople are saying that it is better to make your own intake... I personally would rather flip the lid but im not sure the advantages/ disadvantages of it.

Also when i tried to flip my lid, the wing nuts wouldnt screw in becasue none of the bold was sticking out of the hole...is it that my filter is to big or do i need to bang the lid in the other way so some of the bolt fits?? Any input would be appreciated.
Thanx

Site
09-11-2002, 07:14 AM
I banged the lid in. Saw someone on the board who shaved the sides off the box - top and bottom - so the side of the airfilter was exposed all the way around. Looked good, too.

If I were doing this now, though, I would build an intake. Looks better. The flipped lid always looks so homegrown.

Mike's89AccordLX
09-11-2002, 09:01 AM
take those little rubber grommets off the air lid and it will fit then

A20A1
09-11-2002, 10:09 AM
Yeah I cut the air box so the filter was exposed all the way... it looks more like a domestic engine when you do it that way.

tyne89
09-11-2002, 03:11 PM
me too :)
i say flip the lid cause its so much easier but if you have time it doesnt hurt to make your own intake. its as good or better than a flip lid and it usually looks better.
and to get the flipped lid back on you jinda have to squash the filter a little till the bolt comes thru then screw on the nuts just enough so they will stay.

staticpat
09-11-2002, 07:07 PM
it sounds cool too, ppl always asked what i had done. and it takes 2 secs to find out if you like it or not.

honda88mike
09-27-2002, 09:18 PM
I'm also thinking of flipping my air lid, but i have a question...will the filter keep out water?

K DASH
09-27-2002, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by staticpat
sounds like a dirt bike. i noticed better throttle response and increased cockiness, and all my friends thought i had engine mods from the sound.

dirt bike? is that a good thing? i dont recall dirt bikes sounding all that good..or is it just me?

K DASH
09-28-2002, 08:31 AM
i dont think air filters are made to keep out water, although it might soak up a small amount. that would be the problem with the flipped air lid if you accidentally decided to hose off your engine with water(lol)

damn, K&N air filters run for 60 bucks for my accord here

87blueaccorddx
10-13-2002, 07:28 PM
Hey just wondering how u do the air fip lid, is it in the how to-s??

3rdGenFanatic
10-13-2002, 07:34 PM
Oh man... You just take off the wingnuts, remove the rubber rings inside the holes they were in, then flip the lid over and put the wingnuts back on. Careful.. not too tight or you'll crush the filter.

Dutchboy
10-13-2002, 07:57 PM
maybe you should check the how tos and see....
and if its cold were you are i dont think that flipping it will help at all now since your gonna need that warm air when its cold out...

all in all it wont make a notice able difference in power...get a k&n filter instead

Ben

dXsquared
10-13-2002, 08:41 PM
get a Kand N and also flip the lid for betah results
Travis

ACCORD EX
10-14-2002, 12:31 AM
i'll promise to make a how to on the flipped lid ! :)

MIKE

smufguy
10-14-2002, 08:25 PM
yeah right mike, its gonna be like this

1. remove air filter lid

2. replace it with the lid in reverse

3. You cant do this, then go fuck urself with a mule.

Nate2310
10-17-2002, 09:49 PM
Someone told me to flip my carb lid,

What does this do?

Do I get more horsepower?

netfreak
10-17-2002, 10:51 PM
Less restricted air flow. You MAY notice a difference, and it will be louder.

shepherd79
10-18-2002, 04:25 AM
you will nottice a little diff.
the big diff will come when you work on the carb a little.

markmdz89hatch
10-18-2002, 09:28 AM
yeah, it'll scrape up the underside of ur hood a little...

...don't believe me...

go look!

ACCORD EX
10-22-2002, 01:22 PM
any comments before i put this in the FAQ !
and i wanted to know whose engine with the flipped lid so i can make a notice for him in the FAQ one of them is ERIC's ( POS CARB ) but who is the other !




what is a Flipped Lid (Air box) ?

A flipped lid means to flip your air box cover in you carbed accord !

Why flip a lid ?

It is believed that it will increase performance ( very small amount ) because it lets more air to get in . it will also give you a nice sound at high rpms

What are the disadvantages of doing that ?

Carb freezes if you are living in a freezing area (engine hesitating)
You'll need to Change your Air Filter more often if you live in a dusty area

How to flip a lid ?

Unscrew the 2 screws holding the air box cover ( lid ) and unclip the 5 clips holding the lid from the side ( shown in the pic below )

http://members.fortunecity.com/accordex87/engine+full.jpg


After you remove the cover flips it upside down and screw it back in !(shown in the pic below)

http://members.fortunecity.com/accordex87/fliplid2.jpg

http://members.fortunecity.com/accordex87/fliplid.jpg



if the you can't screw it back in (the bolts are short) you can use a hammer and a piece of cloth and gently tap with a hammer on the raised areas around the bolt (shown in the pic below) until the lid fits right !


http://members.fortunecity.com/accordex87/bolts.jpg

enjoy this free mod guys !

MIKE

RCracer
10-22-2002, 01:49 PM
I didnt need to hit my lid with a hammer just took out the rubber grommets and put them in from the other side.
Put the air box lid on (flipped) and pressed on the midddle of the lid (between the bolts) and was JUST able to screw on the wing nuts.
Since it has started getting cold here I have had to flip it back due to the engine hesitating due to cold.

staticpat
10-22-2002, 08:28 PM
lol!! way too much effort on that one

ACCORD EX
10-23-2002, 05:48 AM
thanks paul ! about the hammer thing i said if only it won't fit the way it is ! some people had problems with that !
and i fixed the hesitating thing ! thanx ! :super:

MIKE

ACCORD EX
10-23-2002, 05:50 AM
BTW didn't anyone reply whose pic is that ! ? teh 3 rd one with the marked airbox with red ! ???

MIKE

89accordboi
11-26-2002, 07:54 PM
is it worth getting an intake on my LX... im carbd.. will it still sound the same as if it was an EFI and would it perform and sound the same? :stick:

socal3rdgen
11-26-2002, 08:16 PM
r u talking bout makeing one. cuz thats the closest youll come to a intake on a carbed engine.

jjlj86
11-26-2002, 08:46 PM
Thats the only thing you can do for carb is make on and i did. And trust you won't regrest it

Mantis88LX
11-26-2002, 08:48 PM
just flip the lid and get a K&N, its gives noticable sounds and gives better thottle response, porbably gives a few more horese too, some will say BS.
it made my car more fun to drive when i did it. that was my first mod

89AccordLX
11-27-2002, 09:50 AM
Back in the day I took out my air filter, bought some flex hose and hooked a huge ass APC upgrade cone filter on the end of it, hooked it to where the old stock air hose plugged in. I did notice a sound difference, and now that it is off I wonder if there was a performance increase...

Neuspeed007
11-27-2002, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Mantis88LX
just flip the lid and get a K&N, its gives noticable sounds and gives better thottle response, porbably gives a few more horese too, some will say BS.
it made my car more fun to drive when i did it. that was my first mod

:werd: i just did that a few days ago, i havent got my K&N in but i got somethin else in. Im going to get the K&N in sometime this week hopefully. But i noticed some hp change and the car runs alot smoother
dont waiste your time on that custom stuff. just do this

staticpat
11-27-2002, 08:12 PM
making your own intake is well worth it. everyones doing it now, its cool to see everyones ingenuity put to work.

Nate2310
11-27-2002, 08:14 PM
if you get the weber conversion can't you get an intake for that, i thought they sold one?

Neuspeed007
11-27-2002, 09:03 PM
they dont sell oe yet. but hopefully they will

Neuspeed007
11-27-2002, 09:07 PM
if im no mistaken you can get one out of a civic. (im not sure wat year) but read this thread, its important if you want to know...

weber cost/civic intake (http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8877)

late-

Versanick
11-28-2002, 10:38 PM
For some background, my 3g was an 86 5spd LX with 200k miles on it. I got the engine honed out ($100) replaced the seals with high performance ($100), ran a custom 1.75" straight pipe exhaust to a Supertrapp muffler, advanced timing 7/8 degrees, 8mm wires, lowering springs (so long ago I can't remember) hardened suspension, Colt Cams "mild street" cam (really really good power boost), and my own intake style...
to start with, I took off the lid... and flipped it upside down. I put some cool racing stickers (Summit, mag I bought stuff from) and something else I used, anyway, not important. I had to bang the two screw holes down a little with a tack hammer to make the nuts snag on what the needed to, but I wound up with an upside down air intake lid. Now I took this honda to the drag races every friday night, costs $10 to race, $5 to watch, and there's a whole lot of rednecks with big-block chevys and mustangs and whatnot, and then there's a 4-6 cylinder class (no turbo or NOS allowed, otherwise anything goes)... and I'd race every time. For this 1/8 mile drag, I drove with my hood OFF... now for one, it's a hint less aerodynamic, but not nearly as much as you'd expect (I hardly noticed at any speed, to be honest).. I'm guessing an easy 10hp boost in power in this department... I liked it so much, I drove around town with the hood off (on non-precipitative days), I went through seatbelt checkpoints with it (the cops never said a thing), and I raced a whole lot of drag races with it. You notice more power increase at higher speed (obviously, it almost creates a forced induction effect by pushing air through the filter)... much better throttle response, and a way better top end (above 6-7k rpms).. my rev could now effectively go far past 9000 (though I never got a tach beyond the one that came with it, so I'm just guessing, as it ends at 8)... the reason I couldn't before, (I think anyway) was due to the retarded timing (carb'd 3g's have retarded timing compared to efi's, but between my exhaust and cam, I tuned it to what I perceived as being the most effective, based on tests of speed of revving, and 0-40 - first gear)... and the fact that the carb'd beast was SUFFOCATING... with a mild cam (or just a stock one) a certain amount of breathing is necessary. THe higher your rev, the faster your carbeurator has to "suck" air in (with a vacuum, a pretty primitive, but potentially effective method) and the more easily you'll want air to flow into your carb. these are simple claims, everyone knows them, I'm not being a theorist here.

In conclusion: flipped lid = must (or custom intake I'm sure would be wonderful, I wouldn't hesitate to say that one is just as good or better than a flipped lid)... I met a friend of mine who actually dismantled the air filter housing, and took off the sides, so it was a naked air filter, and it worked PHENOMINAL (just an idea to throw out there)... and I had AMAZING results with the hood OFF (btw: plug wires can fly off over 100mph... just a warning)...

Drive safe! Don't be stupid like me and bury the needles (especially the spedo)!

Neuspeed007
11-28-2002, 10:55 PM
sounds good, thx for that story, what happened to your friends car? when he made the air filter naked did he notice any problem later on?

89accordboi
12-14-2002, 01:38 PM
i have a completel stock 89 LX, next weekend im probably going to get a 2.25" catback w/ dynomax. if i get a K&N air filter right now, will i be able to notice a difference in speed? and it will it collaborate good with the exhaust and stuff?

89accordboi
12-14-2002, 02:12 PM
man, why isnt anyone responding, is it that shitty? cuz if its worth it i will walk my ass down to mikes auto parts and buy it right now.

maka_RTH
12-14-2002, 03:39 PM
get the civic intake w/ a k&n filter, then you'll notice something(i'm doing in a week when i get paid)

89accordboi
12-14-2002, 03:48 PM
well i dont think its worth it when i have a carb.

Scorpion88LX
12-14-2002, 03:51 PM
i have the k&n i couldn't say there was a big diff. but the main reason that i got it is that it will probably outlast my car.

pmip
12-14-2002, 03:55 PM
If you don't want to make a custom intake that attaches to the top of the carb, I'd say go ahead and get the k&n. It might give you a little more power, and with a better exhaust it's always better to have a better intake. Also, considering it's reusable, you will also save a lot of money because you won't have to keep buying new filters. As to whether you'll notice a differance in power, I doubt it, but I really have no clue.

socal3rdgen
12-14-2002, 04:53 PM
well if your filter is dirty then you will notice the difference with a k&N filter or any filter for that matter. with the catback you will get a lil more horseys.

89accordboi
12-14-2002, 04:58 PM
so if i go get a civic intake and attach it to the intake manifold so it still goes through the normal air filter, will it still work good and everything? or i could even take out the air filter in the air box so it will go in a bit quicker, or should i weld it right on the carb?

maka_RTH
12-15-2002, 02:31 AM
dunno but i forgot to see what model you had..., sorry

87accordlxph
12-17-2002, 09:28 AM
Doesn't it rain a lot in Origan?

I don't recommend modifing a carb intake w/ the cone air filter, you might get water in the system, unless you get one of those air bypass valves???

Just to be on the safe side, (unless you really know what your doing, perform that intake mod) I would just flip the airbox lid and trown in the K&N filter... and yes the K&N air filter is better than stock filter and can be cleaned. Last many miles before they need cleaning... you can expect maybe 2 more HP w/ this mod. Sorry, but I don't have the dyno results but I've read many threads w/ this kind of response. So I'd say go and do this mod (K&N and Flip lid mod) you'll also expect more noise from the carb at about 4000 rpm and notice more pull. This is what I did and it works.

Peace.

-Mike

Site
12-17-2002, 10:44 AM
Every article I've read on test results from air filters conclude that "performance" drop-in filters do nothing. They didn't see real HP results until a real cold-air intake was added.

RedLine
12-17-2002, 11:32 AM
I threw in a K&N a couple weeks ago and noticed no difference in power at all. My car is a fuel injected lxi so you might have different results since your car has a carb. It will pay for itself anyway cus it will never need to be replaced.

Grant2k
12-17-2002, 01:21 PM
i would go with a K&N over that thing i have that you have been asking me about. if i had to do it again i would just buy a K&N. that indeed would go good with the exhaust you have in mind. of course it could always be opened up more, but that would be an improvement over stock, even if you don't feel it.

od2681
12-17-2002, 10:44 PM
OK...
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HEARD BOUT THIS B4 BUT I REALLY NEED TO KNOW...
HOW THE HELL DO YOU ALL DO THIS...CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN IT STEP BY STEP...HOW MUCH WILL THAT COST ME....PLS....IM NOT A RICH PERSON....THIS IS MY DAILY DRIVEN CAR. IM SAVIN ENUFF FOR A MOTOR SWAP, I GOT 250 SAVED UP....NOT EVEN CLOSE...
CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN IT PLS...
WILL REALLY APPRECIATE HELP

LX-i prophet
12-17-2002, 10:55 PM
wow, i dont even own a carbed but i know how (i think<--- disclaimer) anyways, take the lid off your air filter and flip it over then rescrew it down. i think thats how its done........

pmip
12-17-2002, 10:59 PM
It says he has a 86 accord LXI, so I don't think he has a carb...

Defiant[YD]
12-17-2002, 11:07 PM
isn't a flip-lid just for carbed guys?

if so, why would u wanna do it? like pmip said, u got an injected system. u can get real cold air intake instead. it'll cost money, but u get more power.

but anywayz, flip lid, just unhook the 5 clips holding the edges of the box, and unscrew the two bolts on the top, then take off the lid, and put the lid back on upside down, then screw back the two bolts. and it is free.

LX-i prophet
12-17-2002, 11:19 PM
well if he has an injected he doesnt have the lid. he has the box behind the engine, right? so what was the point of that? unless im missing something, which happens often......

1988starter
12-18-2002, 07:17 AM
This is the efi equiv of a flipped lid.
http://www.geocities.com/midias2/pipe.html

ACCORD EX
12-18-2002, 09:32 AM
flipped lid is exlained in teh FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQs !

MIKE

od2681
12-18-2002, 10:18 AM
see...i tried to get an intake...but it the guy told me that it is really hard to bypass hte old intake....he siad i will actually loose power than gain it...I heard aobut this flip lid crap over here, never heard of it before......

PhydeauX
12-18-2002, 10:33 AM
The old intake is quite easy to bypass. Go out an buy a cheap civic intake. Get out a hacsaw and shorten it. Clamp it on and your good to go. Read the faq if you need more details.

andy

LX-i prophet
12-18-2002, 12:44 PM
so the EFI equiv. to a flip lid is that peice of pipe that ends in front of the engine? the blocked up pipe right? just remove the end? do you hafta cut it or does it twist off or something? weird

89lxi95zx7
12-18-2002, 12:50 PM
I'LL MAKE YOU AN INTAKE FOR $80

od2681
12-18-2002, 01:01 PM
MY FRIEND TOLD ME THAT FOR THE TIME BEING I SHOULD TAKE OFF MY OLD INTAKE PIPING....I MEAN MY FILTER IS IN THE BOX AND HE TOLD ME TO TAKE OFF THE PIPES...I DID THAT TODAY...DIDNT NOTICE ANYTHIN EXCEPT FROM THE LITTLE THROATIER SOUND....HEY DUDE...FOR 80 BUCKS...CAN YOU CUT ME A DEAL....DUDE IM BROKE....

1988starter
12-18-2002, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by LX-i prophet
so the EFI equiv. to a flip lid is that peice of pipe that ends in front of the engine? the blocked up pipe right? just remove the end? do you hafta cut it or does it twist off or something? weird

cuts off you will see when you take it apart.

PhydeauX
12-18-2002, 01:36 PM
You can always junkyard it. Find an intake pipe that fits you're throttle body and is slightly j shaped. Get a cheap cone filter stick it on the end of hte pipe and your set. You problaby could make it work with some of the stock pipes. The idea is to get a nice clean strait shot into the throttle body. The stock intake system is a mess. Just pulling the pipe off the air box that goes to the front isn't going to do much more then give the motor warmer air. The tighter the bend the more restrictive the pipe is. You get the idea. Idealy you want to run a pipe down into the front fender area to get some nice cold air. It all comes down to how much work you want to do or how much you're willing to spend.

andy

SiCReX
12-18-2002, 03:34 PM
I took that pipe off from the intake and cut off the very and with the little hole and stuck that in the hole and put the little clamp on it. now i have a custom CAI so it dont matter.

89AccordLXI666
12-18-2002, 08:10 PM
Definitly go for the K&N cone filter, but look in the carb section, I believe there is a guy who made a special adaptor for his carbed Accord, and look at the pics. It will give u an Idea on how to make the special adapter that u need to put over the carb, and then u add the intake pipe and slap on the K&N cone at the end of it... Go to the Carb Section and look for something that says intake for carbs or something to that nature... Hope that helps bro... good luck. Lataz

LX-i prophet
12-18-2002, 11:16 PM
I took that pipe off from the intake and cut off the very and with the little hole and stuck that in the hole and put the little clamp on it. now i have a custom CAI so it dont matter.

:huh: eh? :huh:

SiCReX
12-19-2002, 09:09 AM
nevermind!

SiCReX
12-19-2002, 09:15 AM
I jacked a k&n from autozone when I put it in my car I couldn't notice shit. But, when I raced my friend in his neon i noticed he couldnt catch up like he used to. Also, what happens when your aem filter gets dirty? do you wash it or toss it?

bobafett
12-19-2002, 09:28 AM
if think there is filter cleaning kits, but i am not sure if all filters are reusable. i think they need to be red oil based to be reusable.

bobafett
12-19-2002, 10:34 AM
hey, go to ebay, and order a 92-95 civic intake. i ordered one for my girlfriend last week. it was $38 shipped.. all you need to do is cut it shorter, and drill a few holes in the tube for the vaccum hoses. i am a newbie, and i managed to do it myself. all you need is a drill and a hacksaw.

good luck

od2681
12-19-2002, 07:06 PM
so taking out the piping for my stock intake wouldnt do anything.....not even 1 hp...is it going to decrease hp....?????:(

1988starter
12-19-2002, 07:52 PM
I did it with a k&n flter and felt a little gain but I would get a cone filter from pepboys and make a custom intake from the stuck C pipe like I mentioned in this thread
http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10854

volvohonda83
12-21-2002, 11:57 AM
Normal filters cannot be reused because they are paper. The K&N is cloth, so it can just be washed with the K&N stuff. I have a K&N filter in my 89LX and I can tell a little difference, mainly just a little freer airflow. With the flipped lid/K&N I do notice a good amount of extra pull.

jeffreygivens
02-21-2003, 06:11 PM
how do you make a fliped air box can someone show me some pics

'89AccordLX(Rus)
02-21-2003, 06:36 PM
The flipped air box "mod" has been discussed in many previous threads. Please click Search for Flipped Airbox (http://www.3geez.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=51541&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending)

Thank you. :)

shepherd79
02-21-2003, 07:10 PM
you mean fliped air box LID.
just take the lid off and flip it.

A20A1
02-21-2003, 09:28 PM
Maybe I should make this a sticky thread... it's been asked a few hundred times already :lol

ACCORD EX
02-23-2003, 01:10 PM
guys guys guys ! it's in the FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQ's ! :)

MIKE

87accordlxph
02-23-2003, 01:14 PM
I've asked the very same question in the past!!! :D
No offense jeffreygivens.

-Mike

SYKO5150
02-27-2003, 02:51 AM
i have a motec exhaust conectet to my short shifter

Accord Pimp 88
02-27-2003, 10:39 AM
You know...Once in a while guys you have to get both your transmissions rotated and check halogen fluid...or you'll be sittin' roadside. :-D

Haolerot
03-13-2003, 12:56 PM
why instead of saying where to find it, and telling him that people always ask that stupid question...you just tell him???? save him the trouble.......just take of all of your air cleaner latches....2 bolts off....then flip your lid upside down...then screw the bolts back on........see was that hard? :flip:

Accordie
03-18-2003, 08:07 PM
what does it do, when u flip the air box? Make any better sounds?
Or is it just to make the engine bay look abit different?

mindlos
03-18-2003, 09:15 PM
The stock air passage is small and very restictive. As a result it sucks a little performance coz it is harder for the engine to suck in air. By performance I mean throttle response, and pickup/acceleration. By flipping the lid you allow unrestricted air flow (apart from the filter) thus letting the rest be all it can be.

Cons: after a little driving the engine bay is baking hot and the the engine sucks that in. It is less effecient because it is less dense thus has less combustion potential due to lower oxygen amount compared to more dense cold air. Feels like the engine runs out of steam (at least for me)

Ultimately, let your butt do the measuring because results posted turn out to be very subjective. And yes, you will will either hear the engine growl or barf, depending on whether you love or hate the sound.

Accordie
03-19-2003, 08:45 PM
Does anyone have pictures of a flipped air box ? I open the lid off yesterday, flipped it around and put it back but u cant screw the 2 screws back on, theres no room for me to screw the bolts back on?

Nospeed
03-19-2003, 11:26 PM
i just took a hammer and pounded the diviot that the bolts go through down. then when you flip the lid back over, the bolts will actually go through the holes, and you can put your wing nuts on the bolts. hope that helps.

MIK3
03-22-2003, 09:55 PM
Will it pose a thread to the K&N with all that extra garbage air flowing through it?...I realize this has probably been asked before...sry guys.

dXsquared
03-22-2003, 09:58 PM
nope.... there are lots of open element KN filters out there...

Travis

MIK3
03-22-2003, 10:04 PM
Nice! Just what I wanted to here! Thx man!

dXsquared
03-22-2003, 10:06 PM
you can even cut the edges of the box off so its an open element...

Travis

MIK3
03-22-2003, 10:54 PM
Yeah, I saw someone on this board do that. I remember seeing a pic and seeing that it looked pretty sharp, It's just that there is no going back once you cut the edges off.

A20A1
03-23-2003, 04:06 AM
hmm let me dig up and ancient pic.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/319000-319999/319268_25_full.jpg

shepherd79
03-23-2003, 05:39 AM
if you want to see how the cut box with K&N filter looks click here http://members.fortunecity.com/accordex87/how_to_remove_the_vacuum_lines.htm
i don't have any problems with this setup, except i have to clean filter more offten.

wprocomp
03-23-2003, 01:23 PM
I sometimes flip mine but most of the time I leave it regular,I never really noticed a diff other than the sound.......maybe top end helps who knows until I dyno it.

dXsquared
03-23-2003, 02:27 PM
i cant hear the carb sound over my exhaust! i dont know the sound you people speak of

Travis

MIK3
03-23-2003, 04:08 PM
Ill have to flip the lid once I get my new K&N...in about a week. Not gonna flip it w/a pos paper filter. The thing is dirty enough as it is. Yeah, I heard it makes a nice lil growl at ~3500rmp

A20A1
03-23-2003, 04:23 PM
Yeah I ran with the paper filter for a while... not that good. I had to replace it frequently.
The K&N was a small improvement... turns black/Dark purple when dirty, but at least I could reuse it... but then the cost of the recharge kit was high. :(

shepherd79
03-23-2003, 05:07 PM
mike, $10 is too high.
i can recharge my filter 3 times at least. it is very small price to pay for performance.

MIK3
03-23-2003, 08:48 PM
Hey, whats the deal with small rocks flying through the engine and what if they tear at the filter? Is this a precaution I should take...my friend brought it up.

A20A1
03-23-2003, 09:14 PM
phhhhhhhh, thats it... if a rock can maneuver up that far without hitting something... then still retain enough velocitly to puncture the filter. well then it deserves to be there. :D

besides.. thats what the brass screen is for, to keep out the whirling debris'ies :)

MIK3
03-23-2003, 09:26 PM
That is what I am trying to tell him...ugh, and by brass screen you mean the one infront of the grill right? Yeah...I am not worried of the rocks...because whats the deal with cold air intakes if thats the case with rocks? heh...

mindlos
03-23-2003, 10:14 PM
The one right on top of the carb holding the filter housing.

Tell your friend either he is a pessimist or he is drinking some haterade.

MIK3
03-23-2003, 10:23 PM
Yeah, but what Im saying is...why have a cold air intake if there is that threat of rocks...there isn't that threat, and that is why 3gee owners have the cold air intake filters. (well of course they also have them for the extra air flow to the engine)

Accordie
03-27-2003, 04:04 PM
Took out the rubbers, flipped it and it fits perfect. But now whats the sound suppose to sound like? Does it make a big difference?
I drive an automatic, so do i punch the pedal so it revs up high?
I can hear it does sound abit different then how it normally sounds, perhaps i have to change the air filter? I got those stocky air filters, they're cardboard or something? Would a K&N make the sound louder?

SupaNam
04-17-2003, 09:20 PM
i flipped my box today... and it sounds friggin sexy! i love it! any more simple mods like that i can do to my car to get better performance? or sound?

1988starter
04-17-2003, 09:58 PM
advance timing vacume line removal use the search function to find more.

SupaNam
04-25-2003, 08:25 AM
i'd say get a K & N filter... and if u drill small holes around it, u'll get a bad ass sound.

88LXDUDE16
05-06-2003, 05:50 AM
1 question has anyone here passed high school chem???? when you flip the lid the seal is gone so hot air gets sucked into the carb and hot air is not good! lowers performance! no horsepower gain! horsepower loss! comon. cold air dense/hot air light more cold air can be sucked into the carb than hot so more air is better. i feel bad that know one else noticed this.

Grant2k
05-06-2003, 06:11 AM
you are not the first person to bring that up. but i really doubt that whatever little difference you make in intake air temperature is going to make very much of a difference on a 98hp engine. most people do it for sound, not performance.

A20A1
05-06-2003, 06:19 AM
If you read the entire thread I'm sure we've mentioned that before... I know I've said it a few times... but I've also said this:

It's a tradeoff.. You'll get more Hot Air with a lower density Vs Less Cold Air at a higher density Either way you're losing out... unless you build a custom cold air intake with a larger diameter opening, cause the small opening in the stock air box is a Major restriction...

When you look at a Short Ram VS Cold Air on an EFI motor... the intake diameter is the same for both, so then having the Cold Air intake would be better in that instance.

x3r0
07-03-2003, 04:10 PM
I did it to mine, makes more sound when I get to 3,000 rpms. Bad thing to do is, flip ur lid and not having all the air go through the filter :-), I have an 86 HOnda Accord, I flipped the lid, also the rubber washers so air woulnd't get in where it wasn't suppose to. That would let dirt and debree in.

Does seem faster, but I'm more interested in the sound, sure beats paying a lot of money for a different exhaust.

BMS
04-03-2004, 12:06 PM
Take your car into a parts shop with the flipped lid and watch em all point and laugh. The people that know what they're doing also know that it's stupid and doens't do enough to make it worth the 10 seconds of effort.

A20A1
04-03-2004, 12:37 PM
Plus the larger air box penum isn't good for high rpm so opening the filter on all sides basicly removes the plenum above the carb.

Andrew
04-03-2004, 07:12 PM
Holy Crap! I just flipped the lid on my car this morning and does it ever sound effing cool! Dunno if it goes any faster (just got my paper filter in right now, I'm cleaning my K&N)...wish I did this along time ago.

I was stomping it all day just to get it up to 4000 just so I could listen to the engine...once a couple of girls in a Cavi sped up to check me out (I'm sure they were disappointed when they saw that I was an old fat guy with a kid in the back seat.)

SWEEEEET!

DR1VER
04-23-2004, 05:10 PM
HI, I have a UK car and flipped the lid and whenever I shift into reverse it fouls on the bonnet and lifts it a little!! Must be the slightly different UK bonnets (hoods)

BMS
04-26-2004, 09:30 AM
What you have to do is bend the lid a little for a better fit. Or you could just leave it stock like you're supposed to.

89dxowner
05-02-2004, 07:17 PM
I flipped the lid on my 89 dx yesterday and it gives it a little bit of a cold air intake sound. But other than that it seems like it might have a little more power on the acceleration and i don't hear what you guys are talking about at like 4g's but i have a loud exaust so maybe thats why. i don't know. oh well thanks for the tip. any more cheap mods would be helpful. lol.

extinctaccord
05-19-2004, 03:20 PM
i just tried to flip the lid and i flipped it and tried to put it on and the bolts are too short....please help

cvergi01
05-19-2004, 03:26 PM
Push down on the lid..they will only screw down till the screw is flush wih the top of the nut

shepherd79
05-19-2004, 03:27 PM
remove the rubber groomets.
it still too high, get a hammer and flatten that bump.

MIK3
05-19-2004, 03:27 PM
lol. n00b. Get a mallet, GENTLY even out the indention around the screws to even it out, so that you can flip it back over anytime you need, keep in the rubber washers, you do not need to take these out. When you flip it, make sure you flip these as well.

extinctaccord
05-19-2004, 03:40 PM
aight thanks guys, ill go try it

cvergi01
05-19-2004, 04:22 PM
101 posts and he doesn't know how to flip the lid :dunno:

MIK3
05-19-2004, 04:25 PM
Hey now. Let's just use your quote to get a good response to your post...

"What is wisdom without experience?"

89dxowner
05-19-2004, 05:26 PM
lol @ muffler berings. Let me know when you find those, Then find the tank that holds the blinker fluid.

extinctaccord
05-19-2004, 06:09 PM
aight so i did it and got it on....and it sounds sweeet.....thanks guys

and cvergi, you can stfu....sorry if i didnt know how to do something, thanks to everybody else for answering my questions and not being a jackass

aerokid1987
01-04-2006, 07:16 PM
All i did was flip the air filter cover on my carbed 89 and man did that make a hell of a difference. I must have another 15 horses and the gas mileage went up to 30!!! That was after getting 23! Oh and by the way it sounds awesome too! I suppose I'm not the first to do this so smack me if you've seen this a million times. lol I am thouroughly amazed though!

aerokid1987
01-04-2006, 07:21 PM
Ok i was just lookin around and saw that there was an old post for this same mod. But anyway if there are some of you that haven't done it yet, YA GOTTA DO IT FOLKS!! I am totally serious, it works!:stupid:

Strugglebucket
01-04-2006, 07:24 PM
if by 15hp you mean it makes it louder, then yeah.

gfrg88
01-04-2006, 08:38 PM
:rofl:

3G Jester
01-04-2006, 08:57 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
wow. this was serious throw back.
haha wow.:slap:

3G Jester
01-04-2006, 09:09 PM
http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=42542&highlight=flipped+lid
and the n of course...the link that Mike (A20a1) posted up referring to the first fipped lid post here on 3geez.com. i was the "thing" for carbd cords to do in like 02 early 03 lol we were all running out to our cars and doing it in 15 minutes.
and then of course shortly after that everyone started using civic intake boxers and modifying them and mounting CAIs and short rams on them.

good old days

keruhas184
01-04-2006, 09:44 PM
Well, there is even a how-to for flipping your lid:

http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=8067 which was more of a joke than anything else, pics seem to be dead though.

speedpenguin
01-05-2006, 08:31 AM
i remember i ran out and did that the instant i heard about it...
:lol:
now i'm doing an EFI swap

NXRacer
01-05-2006, 08:55 AM
gotta love the butt dyno results :rofl:

3G Jester
01-05-2006, 02:19 PM
yeah man.
15 hp to the wheels wow!!!!!

3G Jester
01-06-2006, 03:38 PM
wow. 4 years of flipping lids. i wonder how many lids are now fuel injected other cars.

lostforawhile
01-06-2006, 03:54 PM
this thread is like a cockroach just when you think it's dead it comes back http://www.nuui.com/Sections/Military/Nukes/Full_Size/xx33_Romeo.jpg

Australian 86
03-02-2013, 10:00 PM
I'm gonna be the Necro and say i just did this!

All i did to install was pop the lid, turn the air seals in the lid around, and to make the lid fit back on i removed the seal
from the top side of the air filter. Make sure you hang on to it so it can be reused if you want to flip it back!

It pretty kewl! The thing you notice the most is around 3000rpm (i presume when the secondary barrel kicks in)
you get this great rich, gravelly engine sound. I guess i have noticed a bit of a difference with accelerator response
too. On the power/ fuel consumption front... i have no idea, don't really care. As long as it does nothing bad to the
car I'm happy with these results!

Keep flippin' it guys! :D