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JasonsPimpn89
04-29-2002, 08:53 PM
Anybody out there heard these things yet? How do they sound?

Vanilla Sky
04-29-2002, 09:02 PM
good, but there are better for the money...

i heard it setup in a room that is aprox. 25x25x10 in size...
just one, 15 inch, 500 watt amp powering it, and it shook the place, never clipped, and still maintained decent sound quality all through the frequency and volume ranges

the one that i heard was $350

Derick

damackz
04-29-2002, 11:58 PM
man tha kicker solarbaric pound!!! if ur getting them make sure u got a decent amp to power it cuz i think 500W is nothing for these subz......they are pricey but well worth it cuz its comp style subz and i heard the 12'

jclss99
04-30-2002, 02:25 PM
The squares are very nice for SPL given the right amt of power. Yes, there are better for the same price out there, but the square thing is just plain cool looking. :) Form or function, your call and not a huge gap in output in this case. Won't be all that far behind the nicer subs in the same price range so I would consider the form side of it.

I'd say go ahead and buy em if you like the look. They are very nice subs.

Matty_StyLz
04-30-2002, 07:42 PM
Speaking from experience here, they are good, but not the greatest I've ever heard. Kicker puts out some good stuff, but in my oppioion nothing can compare to the clarity that my Alpine puts out.

damackz
04-30-2002, 07:58 PM
yeah the alpine type R is a hella nice sub!! they pound like krazy but so far nothin i heard beats a kicker including infinity, Cerwin Vega, Mtx, clarion.........dude ran a 800W amp to it and daymn is all i can say u should go ask for a demo man

jclss99
05-02-2002, 05:53 AM
Digital Designs, Beyond Audio, Shocker, Treo etc... all would blow the Kickers out of the water easily ;)

n88accordLX-i
05-02-2002, 10:47 AM
haha tru dat jclss..... in my book kicker is at the end of the line...

jclss99
05-02-2002, 10:52 AM
Well, by NO means is it the end of the line... I mean, for the price, it's a HECK of alot better than the JLW7's. And there's plenty of crap out on the market that wouldn't come close to Kicker L7's. As far as larger production (higher volume of sales) sub brands go, the L7's are up at the top of the list.

jigga225
05-02-2002, 05:01 PM
hold up man don't knock Kicker...
They've Been in the game a lot longer than most of these new subwoofer companies have.
I switched to 2 12" Kicker Comp VRs from thre audiobahn AW 1000s, and I couldn't be happier.
MY old setup....

89AccordGSR
05-06-2002, 09:57 PM
If you get Kickers 12" L7 the best amp for them is the KX800.2,
but its best for if your gonna get two 12"s. & just so we dont confuse anybody here. Everyone does know that there are two versions of the Kicker squares. The first ones are black & the second are silver.

89AccordGSR
05-06-2002, 10:03 PM
My question is has anybody heard the new JL Audio W7?

jclss99
05-08-2002, 09:56 AM
haha, I posted a reply downing W7's and it disappeared... =/ SPOOOOOOOOKY


basically, for the price, they're crap... they are nice subs, just not worth the tag at all. I had a huge explination as usual, but it really did disappear :wtf:



edit: forgot to add, if you're rich and just want something to look really seamless and cool, then by all means put a pair or 2 of these in your Bently.

87DXHatch
12-08-2002, 12:00 PM
*Dragging this up because I love dragging stuff up :D*

I disagree, jclss99... the W7's are the nearly BEST SUBS you can buy.

Sure, they are overpriced, but they put out pure SQ! While at the same time pumping out enough SPL to make your brain burst! I would never pay $600-$700 for one (I'd rather have a Brahma 15) but they still are unbelievable.

jigga225
12-08-2002, 08:06 PM
man you late like a mofo

loco87
12-08-2002, 08:13 PM
i would highly recomend the l7's. ive had all kinds of other subs and they suck ass. i had 6 jl w6 12's in my tahoe and i switched them our for 4 l7 12's and they hella puonded way more than the jl's, i never measured it on a spl meter, but they hit harder and cleaner.

87DXHatch
12-08-2002, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by jigga225
man you late like a mofo

lol :lol

That's hilarious... I just like clicking "last" on the pages and seeing if I can make some mischief.

Damn, you had 6 w6's?! That'd be insane!

I wonder what the cone area diff. is between 6 W6's and 4 L7's... probably close.

AccordEpicenter
12-08-2002, 10:03 PM
Well they are really nice subs, but their motor structures (on any Kicker for that matter) are small but really efficent, but if you plan on running anything over RMS power you risk blowing them if youre not careful, they cant take the power that a Shocker or Treo or Inhuman can, but they are still excellent subs.

n88accordLX-i
12-15-2002, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by 87DXHatch


I disagree, jclss99... the W7's are the nearly BEST SUBS you can buy.



HAHA, not even close.

87DXHatch
12-15-2002, 01:39 PM
Don't just say "HAHA, not even close" to whore a post out, but back it up then.

If the W7 is "not even close" to one of the best subs you can buy, then I would be really intrigued to know what you think is, and your reasons behind your choice.

n88accordLX-i
12-15-2002, 03:01 PM
IMO, the W7 is way overpriced, 999$ here.. my favorite company is Digital Designs, they have proven themselves many times over, such as doing a 171.8 db with 1 9515 (15"), and being able to take 6000 watt burps and live to see many days to come, and lets not forget the 9917 aka the beast, which is the 9515's bigger brother, but the thing is, these subs started out in recording studios even for many famous artists and even in churches to help reproduce the lows of the pipe organs, and when someone takes that exact same sub and does a 171db with it, that is damn good , these subs have SQ, and SPL and will take anything you can give em, thats why i like them so much, plus my previous experiences with them, and they are half the price of a W7 and just as pretty. ... DDAudio.com :super:

n88accordLX-i
12-15-2002, 03:06 PM
Oh and lets not forget, Digital designs has customer service that just about no other company can match, they are a family run business.. now THAT is a company :bow:

n88accordLX-i
12-15-2002, 03:43 PM
Beautiful = YES

:D

10" 9510

http://www.strangedaze2.com/forum/uploads/post-1-1039995571.jpg

12" 9512's

http://www.strangedaze2.com/forum/uploads/post-1-1039995537.jpg

9917 17" (no thats not me)

http://www.strangedaze2.com/forum/uploads/post-1-1039995707.jpg

n88accordLX-i
12-15-2002, 03:45 PM
MMMM Carbon fiber dustcaps, didnt meen to turn this into a DD thread but i cant help it


http://www.strangedaze2.com/forum/uploads/post-1-1039995815.jpg

87DXHatch
12-15-2002, 05:17 PM
I'll agree, DD puts out some mighty impressive subs. You can throw thousands of watts into them, and they don't even flinch. I have seen a video of some russian guys hooking a 9512 up to a straight up 220 volt power line, and the BASKET broke. The sub continued to play fine (although it was freaking out, it was around 16k watts :D).

(And yeah, the new 2003 DD subs with the carbon fiber look amazing :D)

I wondered if you were reffering to them when you said "HAHA"... but, IMO, these two subs are in totally different classes.

As for DD's have SQ, they are INCREDIBLY peaky subs when ported (which is why they are so often chosen for competition) but when it comes to trying to maintain SQ, they suffer immensely. If you were to install one in such a way that it retained a decent amount of SQ, it's output would be hugely lacking compared to installing it for what it was meant for: Pure SPL.

Now the W7... I do and will always agree that it is not worth it for the price. $700 or so bucks for that sub is too much, unless you can get it cheaper one way or another. But if you disregard the price, what you're left with is one of the most capable drivers out there today. First and foremost, it's an SQ sub (that is why you really can't compare it to DD subs, like comparing a beautiful poodle to a bulldog :D). But not only does it reproduce music unbelievably well, it can get incredibly loud too.

So, in conclusion, for the money, no it isn't the best DEAL. It IS, however, one of the most versitile, although NOT the loudest, subs out there. I would take one any day of the week over DD because I don't compete, and I go for pure SQ in my system.

But what I will end up buying is a Brahma 15... almost identical performance to the W7, and $300 cheaper... hmmm... :D... http://www.adireaudio.com

Peace :flash:

n88accordLX-i
12-15-2002, 05:37 PM
I wasnt saying the W7 is a bad sub, just saying there is better for the money, IE IDMAX ect, and adire does make some nice stuff

BTW DD has had Carbon fiber cones way before 2003 :super: :D

87DXHatch
12-15-2002, 05:51 PM
I meant the new, glossy, fiber carbon dust cap look, wise guy ;)

And I do agree with you... for the price of a W7 you could get TWO really incredible subs.

But if someone wanted to hand me a W7, I wouldn't be against that :D

n88accordLX-i
12-15-2002, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by 87DXHatch
[B]I meant the new, glossy, fiber carbon dust cap look, wise guy ;)


They've had those! :huh: :tongue:

87DXHatch
12-15-2002, 09:08 PM
I must be an idiot...

I think what I'm thinking of is, are the new 2003 models the ones with the flat piston style woofers? Or am I thinking of Elementals new model of subs, which I think I am...

Too...damn...tired... finals...week...taking...its...toll :p

n88accordLX-i
12-15-2002, 11:14 PM
I think the 2003's actually have the rounded dustcaps.

And elemental designs is partnered up with DD, as you can probally tell, except they are detuned a little IE: Smaller voice coils, ect.

88 Accord DX
12-16-2002, 05:55 AM
okay now back to the original topic:

im gonna get 3 kicker solorbaric L7's in a couple of months and make a tight ass custom box (will post pics when done). i still dont know what amp ill get. prolly rockford or somthin but im gonna need somethin good to push all 3 of them. i might get 3 500W amps but im not sure.

anyway some of the best subs i have ever seen are the Eclipse Titaniums

87DXHatch
12-16-2002, 09:00 AM
Can you get all 3 down to ~ 1 ohm? (I think if they're all SVC 4 ohm, then you can make a 1.33 ohm load, that would be very nice)

Get an Adire Revolution. 1500 watts into 1 ohm AND it's only $350 or so.

http://www.ampman.com/ check out the Revolution. It's also got a crapload of features. That's what I'm probably going to be getting come this spring. :)