Turbo Fan for intake

[OldSchoolSwap]

Someone posted a link last year on some kind of turbo fan that would work under Wide open throttle only. It installed on the intake's end with a cone filter.

Does anyone have the link. I think they sell it on ebay too but i can't find it.

[A20A1]

http://www.vintagebus.com/howto/e-ram/

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

http://www.autodesigns.com.sg/



hrm I also found a super charger for carbs....
http://www.cas4.com/Supercharger-Turbo/Supercharger/EM/Supercharger-EM.htm

[OldSchoolSwap]

e-ram! thats the one... Thanks dude.

[wikkedv15]

to me thats not worth it.. 2-3hp for 600-700 dollars.. the only thing that looked good about it was the tq increase.. which isnt worth that money anyway.... 10tq over the stock rating on the car they tested.. and of course.. who knows how much well get on our 3geez... something i wouldnt do unless i was rich and had money to play with .. lol

[ACCORD EX]

hey A20A1 ! you have links for everything ! :D

MIKE

[Tref_LXI]

cause she is da shiznit

[Blue Impact]

Originally posted by Tref_LXI
cause she is da shiznit

Is it because she's from Hawaii? :D

[1989 DX R]

OSS, I know you aren't putting one of those on your car.

[OldSchoolSwap]

Originally posted by wikkedv15
to me thats not worth it.. 2-3hp for 600-700 dollars.. the only thing that looked good about it was the tq increase.. which isnt worth that money anyway.... 10tq over the stock rating on the car they tested.. and of course.. who knows how much well get on our 3geez... something i wouldnt do unless i was rich and had money to play with .. lol

----Quote:
ACURA INTEGRA GRAPH
This is a picture of the dyno graph from our test on a customer's Acura Integra with non-VTEC motor. Notice the two baseline runs are identical... then the addition of the e-RAM produced between 5 to 7 HP throughout the power-band area of the HP curve.
end quote----

if it increased 5 to 7 hp on a NON vtec 1.8 i should be able to see similar gains on my vtec 1.6
Plus extra torque is always a plus.

Don't know yet, i'm still thinking about this one.

The A20 is another story but who knows, it might be worth it. Headers give about the same or a bit more... but ahhhh.. i don't want turbo, i'm sticking to N2O. Who knows, i might just benefit the nitrous system as well... :)

[wikkedv15]

lol anything for a lil power ey? OSS?

[OldSchoolSwap]

Originally posted by wikkedv15
lol anything for a lil power ey? OSS?
:D dude, it adds up! I learned that in Math class :lol

Ya'll check this... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2411810754&category=42604

[bobafett]

at the homemade turbo forums they got ahold of the eram guys. and made them dyno it/ they lost HP, but it did smooth out the torque curve a little better. NOT WORTH IT

[POS carb]

nice charger
http://www.stony-point.com/Supercharger-Turbo/Supercharger/EM/EMC-SC-006.jpg
:)

[OldSchoolSwap]

Originally posted by bobafett
at the homemade turbo forums they got ahold of the eram guys. and made them dyno it/ they lost HP, but it did smooth out the torque curve a little better. NOT WORTH IT
One or two e-rams?

[shepherd79]

in my opinion, if you haven't tried you should be saying anything bad about the product.
it may work, you never know.
why don't you just start saving money for vortech supercharger.

[bobafett]

Originally posted by shepherd79
in my opinion, if you haven't tried you should be saying anything bad about the product.
it may work, you never know.
why don't you just start saving money for vortech supercharger.

true but you cant argue over dyno tests... they are more valid that even tried and true "opinions"



and OSS they tested 1 eram i belive... :)
im sure theres some internals you could buy that would give you better power right?? it just seems like with such a nice setup it would be wierd to go ghetto with one of these blowers.. :)

then again i havent tried it, so maybe they do give 20whp.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

I think someone should buy it and test it out. And if it works then great and if it doesn't then sell it to some 16 year old that has a civic for $300 :D

[89cordlx]

it's like sticking a fan in the intake right? if so look for some of that computer fans and stick that in there hehe. I had a friend who said he did it to his eclipse..... his eclipse wasn't around muhc longer after he did that, and i don't talk to him much, but I don't think the fan affected anything. Plus he is stupid.

[bobafett]

computer fans dont push SHIT for cfm..

even a 120x38mm DELTA, running at like 12-14V will push less than 100-150CFM, which == no power gained. :)

[shepherd79]

regular leaf blower is pushing about 350-450 cfm.
i don't know how much PSI it is, but it will be nice to run with a carb that set up to run rich.

[OldSchoolSwap]

You guys should read this, after digging and digging i came up with this article and it made me think twice. What do you all conclude here? i'm am now confused.

http://home.att.net/~t.vago/howto/eram-waste.html

[shepherd79]

ohhh, i forgot to mention there is another one too. it is called TURBO ZET. i don't know how it works, because it looks very stupid. anyway here is the link http://www.turbozet.com/
don't get confuced by all those calculations. you have seen the dyno chart, so you know it works a little.
I still think Vortech supercharger would be the way to go for you. you would be the first on with B16 and Vortech supercharger in 3G.

[OldSchoolSwap]

Vortech is da shiznit ;)
will have to save up loot though. only the future can tell ;)
As of now, i'm working on upgrading from a dry 60 shot to a wet 80 shot, so we'll see how that goes.

[Gerst240]

back when i worked as a mechanic at a marina 4 years ago i did this to my probe i used a bilge blower that was 300 cfm a nos activation switch and thats about it i do think it gained a few hp but i would not pay more than 50 dollars for the kit here is a link to a bilge blower kinda looks simliar huh :)

http://www.go2marine.com/frameset.jsp?servletPath=/g2m/action/GoBPage/id/75432F/hiLiteSku/75433/categoryId/12275/

[Florin]

hey guys , i'm one of the morons that put a fan on their intake. it's not a computer fan though . the only thing it could posibly do is save fuel . i can feel a difference but that's only because i am running rich.

[iloveJDMblackrims69]

GO ALLLL MOTOR JUAN!!! nitrious=:( .......unless you use it VERY carefully and dont fuck your car up!

[95AccordEXR]

don;t you guys realize that this electric turbo shiz is one of the biggest scams of all time?? Those fans can be bought for $12 or something (if forget what their intended use is, but it is defenitly not made to turbo a car) and they do NOTHING for performance. Oh, wait, they do do something for performance... THEY DECREASE IT. There are a significant amount of cases where the fan blades hinder intake volume so much that the engine sucks the blades off the fan and into your motor.

Seriously now... thing about it. If this really worked, and gave decent gains for a decent price, WHY WOULDN'T ALL CARS COME WITH THEM?

Guys come on. This scam has been around for at least a year now.


EDIT: wait, I remember... it was a bilge pump or something.

[Grant2k]

Originally posted by A20A1



hrm I also found a super charger for carbs....
http://www.cas4.com/Supercharger-Turbo/Supercharger/EM/Supercharger-EM.htm
do you plan on trying that mike? looks pricey and hard to make it work. plus you'd have to build a box to go around the carb.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

You know I think Mike could be doing that as a secret project b/c he's doing a manifold for bike carbs so maybe he is doing that bolt on super charger kit. I hope we just didn't uncover a secret project though :)

[2twisty]

Why not just put a turbo on the car?

Once you pay all that for teh E-Ram, how much farther are you (cost wise) from a 4-6psi setup on a turbo?

Then, when you add some better fuelling, you can go higher on the boost.

WHy limit yourself?

Besides, you can get a nitrous kit for about the saem cost as an E-RAM, and you'll make more power.

Chad

[OldSchoolSwap]

Originally posted by 2twisty
Why not just put a turbo on the car?

Once you pay all that for teh E-Ram, how much farther are you (cost wise) from a 4-6psi setup on a turbo?

Then, when you add some better fuelling, you can go higher on the boost.

WHy limit yourself?

Besides, you can get a nitrous kit for about the saem cost as an E-RAM, and you'll make more power.

Chad
Well said :)

[OldSchoolSwap]

Originally posted by iloveJDMblackrims69
GO ALLLL MOTOR JUAN!!! nitrious=:( .......unless you use it VERY carefully and dont fuck your car up!
All motor? me? NEVER!!!!!!!!!! I have nothing to prove, Nitrous has never let me down ever since i've had it since 98. I started with a 50 shot on the A20 then got the B16 and sprayed it. I then moved to 60 and 70 but decided to leave it back at 60 for safety reasons.
I am now upgrading to 80 shot wet "direct port" so we'll see how that treats me :) i can't wait for that extra power!

[3G Jester]

6-7 hp aint bad.

but id rather put 600 ucks towards an H22 swap. thats half the cost right there.

[3G Jester]

or nos....heh....600 bucks would get you more nos hp then 5-7 turbo

[LX-eye]

My buddy bought an E-Ram on his 95 vtec lude. There is no good place to mount the switch, it has to be ghetto rigged. It actually did seem to give a little power at WOT but otherwise it is restricting the air flow in the intake. Think about it, a huge fan stuck in your intake...when it is not on it is slowing down the air flow. His vtec doesnt seem to kick in as hard as it did now that the E-Ram is still in there but is not operational.

[Grant2k]

LX-eye, your avatar makes me like you.

[LX-eye]

Thanks Grant

[3G Jester]

LX-eye...what is your avitar from?

well...a turbo fan isnt bad...as long as its going fast enough to push air into the engine....

if its going to slow itll be as useful as one of those 'tornados'! haha

[POS carb]

wtf get 2 bilge pumps, that's 480 cfm, good for at least a few pounds at WOT, hell I'm thinking about trying it

[LX-eye]

Like I said the fan blocks the intake when its not in use so if you dont mind having less power for everyday use. Also the switch sucks nuts, there is no good place to mount it. It does however seem to give some power under WOT but I don't think it's worth the money personally.

As far as my avatar its a secret...:D

[POS carb]

what about a simple bypass valve? hmm it would have to go before the filter. I can rig it on the carb manifolds for sure though, probably with the existing parts.

[A20A1]

Originally posted by 3g Jester
LX-eye...what is your avitar from?

I'm sure someone will tell you... come by the office some time... there's a lot of space.

[87AccordsterLx]

Originally posted by A20A1
I'm sure someone will tell you... come by the office some time... there's a lot of space.


Mike Knows ALL!!!!!! LoL!

[3rdGenFanatic]

How much CFM of air does a carb usually pull?