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89chaosaccord
05-21-2003, 04:24 PM
I have a 89 lx. I need to know what engines other than the one I have? better question I want more power which prelude engines or the latest accord engine?:super:
infecto
05-21-2003, 05:10 PM
Hey why not read the first few posts in the engine swaps page and you will see all the info you need.
pimp86LX
05-21-2003, 05:12 PM
lol a newbie told a newbie were to go...i love it :D
89chaosaccord
05-21-2003, 05:50 PM
if i knew what a b20a was i would not be asking
‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
05-21-2003, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by 89chaosaccord
if i knew what a b20a was i would not be asking
Aww don't take personal!! PPL are lazy! Do you have to spend? Cost speed cost money and if you have it, the sky is the limit. I would post the info , but I don't know if u are willing to spend!
mystre4u2
05-21-2003, 06:49 PM
I ASKED ABOUT REPLACING JUST ONE OF MY PISTONS BUT OH NO NOBODY WANTS TO REPLY TO HELP ME
goldyaccord
05-22-2003, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by mystre4u2
I ASKED ABOUT REPLACING JUST ONE OF MY PISTONS BUT OH NO NOBODY WANTS TO REPLY TO HELP ME
:lol :D People will answer in DUE time. Patience my friend.. Patience.
ChaosAccord....
Don't feel bad. The peeps that post here are evidently tired of guys like us coming here and asking questions about swapping newer Accord or Prelude motors into earlier generation Accords.
I know we can be a nuisance to some, but in all honesty no one comes here intentionally trying to get on anyones nerves. I received a meaner response Chaos, so don't feel bad!!!!
Evidently, you want to stick within your "generation" as far as swaps are concerned. Whether the motor come from another Accord, or an Acura, it evidently is easier to stick with engines from 86 to 89 Accords or Integra's. 90 and forward motors can be dropped in, but from what the peeps on this site say it is a bigger undertaking than upgrading with an engine from your model years. (86 to 89)
Transmissions, ECU's, motor mounts, axles, hubs, etc etc apparently all need to be changed to use an engine from a 90 or above car. Not sure of the engine designations from 86 to 89 but I would think that the engine in the 89 Prelude would be a good
choice. I think there was an 89 Prelude Si... I would think that was a hot motor from the factory, but the posters here know better than I do.
Like was mentioned before... if you have the time and money, the DOHC VTEC from a recent Prelude will fit geometrically. You will just need to do alot of other things to facilitate the change apparently. It this other stuff that might outweigh the dollars to horsepower ratio. Why spend over $5k (not a real number, just an example) to get 200 horsepoer when you can get 180 horsepower for maybe half the same dollar value?
The numbers are meaningless above, but the point remains the same... there is a relation between dollars and horsepower. Spending more money for only negligible gains in horsepower might not be financially wise. But, to each his own.
infecto
05-23-2003, 02:58 PM
We don't mean to be rude or mean. Its just a simple fact that the first few posts give all the info needed. And lets think about it since this is the engine page I would assume a b20 is a type of engine. Even though I am new here I can see the problem. Just about every other day someone asks what kind of engine they can swap into there car. And everday people have to keep repeating and repeating. The first 4 posts or whatever number it is covers everything. And if you do not understand it then can you really undertake a swap. Oh and like ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^› pointed out it takes money. Lots of money. Unless your have a few grand ready to put out its not worth it. We really don't mean to be rude its just that if one searches through all the new and old posts there questions will be anwsered and they will become quite a refined person on engines. Thanks.
89chaosaccord
05-23-2003, 09:44 PM
thank you all i did learn a lil in the last two day i want something simple to drop in but thats not going to happen is it not a waste of time and money when you can just go out and buy a prelude for same price of mod your car if i'm wrong please let me know.
Mike's89AccordLX
05-23-2003, 09:50 PM
Well you can do what you want to do. And if that makes you happy then go for it. It sounds like you just want an easy sollution and that isn't going to happen if you do a swap. I hope you can find what you're looking for though. I've thought about buying something else but I've put my sweat and blood into this car and it is mine and I'm proud of it. It may never be the fastest but I will never stop tuning it.
Trowa
05-23-2003, 11:57 PM
That's so true what Mike's89AccordLX said, it seems that the only ppl that do decied to tune 3g are the ppl that REALLY like it, cause yes, for the amount that it takes to put a nice engine and performance parts u can easily buy like MK3 Supra, or a prelude or something and those already have pretty powerfull engines and are pretty damn fast. So yeah, if ur not ready to put it money, time and sweat into it, u'll prbly not get very far with a 3g and might as well buy one of those other cars.
But hey, that's just my opinion and i might be wrong =)))
toastyghost
05-24-2003, 08:39 AM
welcome to honda engine codes for n00bz 101:
X##X(#) <--- standard format where X is a letter and # is a number, also the () means optional
First of all the 2 #'s together represent the motor's displacement. The variations of the A20A in our cars are 2.0L motors. The B16A is a 1.6L, etc etc. Then if there's another one after that it's for different versions of the same motor like the A20A1 is the carb, A20A2 is 86-87 EFI, and A20A3 is 88-89 EFI. Or the B18C1 is the Integra GSR while the slightly more aggressively designed B18C5 is in the Integra Type R. And as far as I can tell, the letter after the displacement is just a designation, they start with A and when they make a new engine of the same series and same displacement, they assign another letter to differentiate b/w similar motors. They use Z to kill a line I guess... so B20a -> JDM 3gen Accord 2.0Si, B20B -> 1gen CRV, B20Z -> 2gen CRV.
In the first slot if it's an A that means single cam, B means twin cam (or DOHC, "dual over head cam"). This is what someone means if they refer to "B series" motors which are mostly made of the same stuff and have a lot of interchangeable parts. So for instance you can take a B20B (CRV) block and attach a B18C5 (Integra Type R) head to it, the resulting motor will have a shitload of low end torque from the high displacement of the SUV bottom end and plenty top end power because of the VTEC technology and porting and such for the ITR rice rocket top end. Not all parts are interchangeable that is just a simple example.. also there are still some interchangeable parts for older B series like the B20A which came in the JDM Accord 2.0Si; so for example, this engine can use standard 81.5mm pistons from the newer B series but it would have to have different connecting rods like H23A rods will work I think.. from the 4gen Prelude Si.
B series are the ones you really need to worry about because those are more like the "tuner" engines that Honda made. D means it's a god damn civic so don't even worry about it, H means i don't know i think it stands for HOLY FUCK THAT'S FAST (or alternately HOLY FUCK THAT'S EXPENSIVE), J is just for Accord V6's, and K is for the new i-VTEC motors which suck because they're just like the old VTEC motors they just put "intelligent" to rip off shit Toyota thought of 10 years ago. Honda knows they will never build a vehicle with the tuneability of a MKIV Supra so they're just giving up and using played out catch phrases on the newer cars they're making.
I hope this was informative since most people would rather blast n00bz than help them learn. There was a time when you guys didn't know shit either, cut them some slack.
Mike's89AccordLX
05-25-2003, 03:42 AM
Man people aren't being rude by saying use the search button anyways. I just spent the last 7.5 hours reading all the info on the jdm b20a motor and what I need to prepare for and what I need to modify, how to buy parts, where to buy parts, what things mean, what power it produces and torque, and tons more. Now keep in mind I could have made a thread and asked all of that, but I figured hey I have a whole data base of info that I can just look up and find out myself. Now there's maybe 2 or 3 questions that I will ask someone but at least those people know I spent time reading about it and tried to find it. I'm not putting anyone down for not searching, but I was just defending the people that don't want repeat themselves over and over and over. B/c one thing I noticed, there were tons of threads about the same thing and pretty much the same people told them the info and then someone else and so on and then they get to the point where they don't feel like taking 15 minutes to type up the answers. (I'm at work, that's why I had that much free time.) I have a plan set out already on how long it should take me to save up for the complete motor and then how long I will take to rebuild it and whatnot. I just need to decide whether I want carbs or FI.
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