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BigDReaMER
05-26-2003, 09:55 PM
I read a while back In the Sport Compact Magazine that lowering your car Improves handeling,accleration,because it lowers the center of gravity of the car. some told me the same thing because there is less air traveling uned the car. and i also wana know can you really channel air into the engine? lets take it back in da day
you remember when u turn the bike upside down and pedal, and make the tires spin really fast and then u put your hand over top the tire and what do u feel? that's right, AIR. Your car tires do the same thing, now what If you could make a Channeling device to Channel that air Into the engine Bay!!!!!!!!!! cool huh. tell me what u think and can it be done because damit If the dudes that race in the JGTC can have that shit on their NSX's Silvia'S and Supra's we can have it on our Accords, granite it might cost an ARM A LEG AND a BALL SACK or two(LoL) but by GOD it can be done

MUGEN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IWLSF
05-26-2003, 10:33 PM
Handling, duh, but as far as acceleration...we're talking about down to measuring in millimeters close to the ground. That is not a feasible height for street purposes. And that also requires a VERY scientific procedure along with a wind tunnel to measure every type of coefficient. This is not something that can be done period, unless you are super wealthy. It requires complete engineering of diffusers, lips, etc. And mugen power?

pimp86LX
05-26-2003, 10:35 PM
well ya never know IWLSF, a wing does add like 50hp, mabe these wheel air ducts will add like at least 25-30.









:D

IWLSF
05-26-2003, 11:52 PM
The channeling devices he's referring to are as far as RR or MR setups. Anything air-cooled as well, which is almost non-existant nowadays.

scandalcat1
05-27-2003, 06:52 PM
http://www.anti-rice.com/rice12/zaterdag-096.jpg

I bet he/she gets up there in speed

:confused:

One of the most important features of a Race Car is its aerodynamics package.

The most obvious manifestations of the package are the front and rear wings, but there are a number of other features that perform different functions. A Race Car uses air in three different ways:

The wings on a Race Car work opposite to the way they work on an airplane . On an airplane, the wings provide lift. On a Race Car, the wings are mounted upside down so that they provide downforce. The downforce keeps the car glued to the track with a downward pressure provided by the front and rear wings as well as the body itself. The amount of downforce is amazing -- once the car is traveling at 200 mph, there is enough downforce on the car that it could actually adhere itself to the ceiling of a tunnel and drive upside down! In a street course race, the downforce aerodynamics have enough suction to actually lift manhole covers -- before the race all of the manhole covers are welded down to prevent this from happening!
(Excerpt from How Stuff works)

POS carb
05-27-2003, 08:59 PM
WTF ever happened to just Ram Air?

smufguy
05-27-2003, 09:12 PM
our 3g has a drag coeff of 0.34 and the last gen M3 has a drag coeff of 0.35. Anywho, Lowering ur car is lowering the cars center of gravity. There is also something called a roll center. When the distance between the roll center and the center of gravity is reduced, u feel little centrifugal force when ur in the car, as in u take a curve u dont slide or move as much, but that also affects steering response which in turn reduces the feel of the tire grip. Lowering the car too much would reduce the distance bwt the roll center and center of gravity which would lead to negative impact on a car's handling. U will not feel any slide in the car when u take a turn and u natually dont feel when the car would spin out and the time uknow it, its when u spin out.

Also having stiffer shocks and springs reduces the shift in mass from the front to rear. This increases the raction to the front tires so ur not spinning out ur tires due to reduced mass in the front. Physicis majors would argue for ages about mass being shifted, cause mass cannot shift when its not movable, but we are taking about inertial mass that 'phantomly' shifts. Its a hard concept to understand, but its what happens. Thats why a car feels much quicker with stiffer ((stronger)) suspension in acceleration and conreing cause its much more stable.

air channeling with tires are for tires with deep grooves. Ur bicycle tires have a biiger and wider gapped studs on its tires for all traction. But ur car does not, if it did, it will look like a snow tire. Also u gotta know, tha if it can push that much air, its because of air resistance and u dont want air resistance to be a big factor on ur tires when u wanna go fast. Thats why we got slicks, which has no grooves whatsoever ((pure drag slick)). Anywho, a race car as in a touring car travels at a much faster speed even on its average speed, so compaing how much air it can move even on slicks to what ur accord can, is just pointless. U can rather have electric fans in ur engine bay to cool ur engine down.

3G Jester
05-27-2003, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by POS carb
WTF ever happened to just Ram Air?

:werd:
hood scoop and short ram or just do a CAI.



haha that Rex is some funny shit. but that blue color of the car is GORGEOUS!! its sexy ass shit. :pimp:


..too bad the wing kills it...:rolleyes: :toilet: