What about this motor? *pics*

[kicker1_solo]

Would this be worth putting in my car? I can get the whole car for dirt cheap......I would put the motor in my car and part out the rest. But if the motor wouldn't be good for my car then I wouldn't wanna bother buying it.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/pe2746eb0d9504aca8ac35d590b492d63/fbfa84bd.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p05b4ef54b6c587a0881405e0d44909a8/fbfa84ba.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/pccb86799f0378c7ca0f123e140de5df7/fbfa84b9.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/pba8ec936649ed934d28f45d64a867dc7/fbfa84bc.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p82a0bd7e1572fee37cfeb3b416bbe816/fbfa84b5.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p456473965bbbad5d964041f8838fac46/fbfa84b2.jpg
Of course I'd have my cousin go with me to look at it, he's my certified mechanic

[Haolerot]

Well i would have to say....FUCK YA!!!!!!!

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

I guess so.. You still need mounts , axles, etc.. engine has some potential , plus lots more bolt ons than an a20

[easyryder]

If ya have the whole car to work with Go for it

[Mike's89AccordLX]

b18's are good motors. But like Matt said, it will take much more than just the motor to get it to fit into the 3G. But once you do it, it will be so worth it.

[kicker1_solo]

Alright. **starting to get even more serious** Where would I get these axles from? I couldn't use the ones from the car? And I know about the motor mounts, that's not a problem. Swapping the motor would be easy for me, my cousin owns a body shop. What else would I need?

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

Originally posted by kicker1_solo
Alright. **starting to get even more serious** Where would I get these axles from? I couldn't use the ones from the car? And I know about the motor mounts, that's not a problem. Swapping the motor would be easy for me, my cousin owns a body shop. What else would I need?

Mounts, Axles, Ecu, Wiring, Shift Rod, .. OLDSCHOOLSWAP Can get you these parts..
PlaceRacing B series mount kit.............................$585.50
PlaceRacing Harness for B16A............................. $289.99
PlaceRacing Axles..each.....................................$1 49.99
PlaceRacing Shift rod B series..............................$139.99

[kicker1_solo]

so I'd be looking at spending $1500 just for parts to get the motor to work for me? And the harness for the B16, that would work for the B18?

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

Originally posted by kicker1_solo
so I'd be looking at spending $1500 just for parts to get the motor to work for me? And the harness for the B16, that would work for the B18?

B16 Is vtec B18a is non-vtec..u can make a harness using ur current a20 harness & the b18a harness..

[Mike's89AccordLX]

Swaps are not cheap. That's when you find out how serious you actually are.

[kicker1_solo]

Originally posted by ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
B16 Is vtec B18a is non-vtec..u can make a harness using ur current a20 harness & the b18a harness.. then why did you tell me that I need this?

PlaceRacing Harness for B16A............................. $289.99

[Tref_LXI]

sorry i just want to know what in the fuck happened to that car???

[kicker1_solo]

Originally posted by Tref_LXI
sorry i just want to know what in the fuck happened to that car??? it was in an accident :flip:



I don't know the story, but it rolled over and over and ended up on a telephone pole or something like that....

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

Originally posted by kicker1_solo
then why did you tell me that I need this?

PlaceRacing Harness for B16A............................. $289.99

substitute the B16a and replace it with B18a.. I was just giving u an idea on the price

[kicker1_solo]

Originally posted by ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
substitute the B16a and replace it with B18a.. I was just giving u an idea on the price ok, but why would I need to buy one when you just said that I could combine the one that I have with the one that comes with the motor?
Is there anything else that you listed that I would not need to buy? What can I use from the two cars combined instead of buying new shit?

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

Originally posted by kicker1_solo
ok, but why would I need to buy one when you just said that I could combine the one that I have with the one that comes with the motor?
Is there anything else that you listed that I would not need to buy? What can I use from the two cars combined instead of buying new shit?

take what ever u can.. complete swap.. u can always sell or trade the spare parts.. But u keep the ecu , engine.. i dont remember exactly, But if the tranny is cable than u need that. Ur going to need to buy the Axles, Shift Rod & Mounts.. The wire harness is ur choice... Ur going to need ur a20 harness & B18a harness. But if u know a shop or a friend that can do the wire harness conversion, than u wont need to pay place racing to do it for you.. those are the pics of the shift rod

http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_b/260000-260999/260423_24_full.jpg

http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_b/260000-260999/260423_25_full.jpg

[kicker1_solo]

Well if I buy this I'm gonna get the whole car, so I'll get the motor, ecu, tranny, everything! My cousin can do the wiring of the harnesses for me, so I can save there. I guess I'm gonna go and buy me a car next weekend. :)
Thanx for the help man, anything else that anybody can think of?

[Mike's89AccordLX]

Pay like $50 for it :D just tell them that the welds on the intake manifold are blown ;) or say that it's only good for small parts. Make it seem like the engine is crap and that it's broken and won't work. hehehe then you can get the good deal.

[adams86lxi]

go for it!:)

[blazin3gen]

how fucked up are those rims? i'll give ya $10 for all 4 :)

[wprocomp]

I woul have that block checked for cracks and tera it completely down and check the head,from the way things look the crankshaft may have walked too...ouch!

[kicker1_solo]

Another question.....can that motor bolt up to my stock tranny or would I have to use the B series tranny?

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

Originally posted by kicker1_solo
Another question.....can that motor bolt up to my stock tranny or would I have to use the B series tranny?

U can use a JDM B16a , 91 B18a & Dats it!! and you can use the a20 tranny

[kicker1_solo]

Originally posted by ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
U can use a JDM B16a , 91 B18a & Dats it!! and you can use the a20 tranny now I'm just confused :confused:

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

I meant Can't Sorry!

[kicker1_solo]

So I can use a the B18a tranny?

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

Originally posted by kicker1_solo
So I can use a the B18a tranny?

U can use a 1991 B18a tranny..not 92..

[Morpheus]

Ummm, what the fuck happen to that teg?
Demolition Derby?

[kicker1_solo]

Originally posted by ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
U can use a 1991 B18a tranny..not 92.. damn, I just found out that it's a 92 today. I guess I'll look around for a 91 or a B16a, does it have to be JDM?

[kicker1_solo]

Originally posted by Morpheus
Ummm, what the fuck happen to that teg?
Demolition Derby? rolled it, and then they took it to their house and crashed into it with their truck, kicked it, hit it and all kinds of fun stuff lol


and I went out to talk to the guy that owns it now and he already sold the interior and a few other parts so I'm just going to buy the motor and tranny. I paid $200 for it....

[88LXi68]

NO NO NO.... You can use any B-Series CABLE tranny you want. It is just that there is a difference in the clutch between the 88-91 and the 92+. Otherwise they all bolt up the same. Now what Mike was talking about is that you need a wire harness. You can do 2 things here. 1) convert the engine to OBD-0 which is the easiest. To do this you need a B18A1 90-91 engine harness, 90-91 distributor, and 90-91 injectors. You then take this B18A1 harness and send it out to Place Racing WITH your A20A3 harness. It comes back and hopefully it all goes smooth. The 2nd thing you could do is keep the engine OBD-1 and send out that harness w/ your A20A3 harness. They then combine them and a pigtail harness to make it OBD-1. This more expensive, but you get to keep all the stuff you have already. Also, OBD-1 setups usually make more HP because they have tunable computers and can be used with stuff like Hondata and the AEM EMS. The choice is up to you. The nice part is you would have the WHOLE car so getting the right bolts and shit wouldnt be bad. For example, you will need the rear mount bracket and the driver side engine mount for the swap. Another plus is that you have tranny and ECU already. If you can get the car cheap enough, I say go for it.

[kicker1_solo]

Ok, you guys are saying I need all of this 90-91 stuff, but the car is a 92. :confused:

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You can only use 90-91 motor brackets,.. he said he has a 92. Not many B series Cable tranny's JDM B16a, B17, B18a

[88LXi68]

Originally posted by ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
You can only use 90-91 motor brackets,.. he said he has a 92. Not many B series Cable tranny's JDM B16a, B17, B18a

The 90-93 motor mounts are all the same

[‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›]

Originally posted by 88LXi68
The 90-93 motor mounts are all the same

I was told only 90-91 from the two dudes that did the swap..

[88LXi68]

that is impossible. the 92-93 is the SAME engine and chassis. Ehh whatever i guess I have the right ones.

[kicker1_solo]

If I get the mounts from the integra, would I still have to buy the motor mount kit for like $500?

[88LXi68]

Originally posted by kicker1_solo
If I get the mounts from the integra, would I still have to buy the motor mount kit for like $500?

Yes. The only mounts from the Teg that you are using is the rear mount bracket #11

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/acura/jsp/mws/catimgs/13SK70_B47.gif

AND the driver side engine mount bracket #8

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/acura/jsp/mws/catimgs/13SK70_E14.gif

[carlessNcareless]

steve, im selling my teg due to job issues, but im considering buying a 89 lx-i 5 speed i found local for 1k...how much do you tihnk it would be total to do the LS motor swap?

[88LXi68]

Originally posted by carlessNcareless
steve, im selling my teg due to job issues, but im considering buying a 89 lx-i 5 speed i found local for 1k...how much do you tihnk it would be total to do the LS motor swap?

Honestly, if you are selling your teg for job reasons, then i would not even do a swap like this until you get the job sorted out because this is a much more expensive swap than doing something to the Teg. Just my opinion.

[carlessNcareless]

oh well only real reason is because of the teg being an auto and after me having to walk buy it everyday ive really grown tired of it, and the 5 speed swap is impossible for me to do on my own, so i had decided to go after a dsm, but they dont seem to be the most reliable car, so i figrured id go for a 3gee and hopefully with boltons a 5 spd can hit 15's with a dent driver and minimal weight reduction..

[Coroncho80]

Originally posted by 88LXi68
that is impossible. the 92-93 is the SAME engine and chassis.

You're right Steve; they are the same. The only thing that changes is the tranny. The 90-91 teg tranny's shaft is a tip thiner than the 92-93 and TRUST ME ON THIS ONE! :D But, mounts, chassis are the same. Oh and the 92-93 head a a little bit different, thats why of the 10 hp increase from the 90-91. So ............ There are my 2 cents :D

[kicker1_solo]

Originally posted by ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›
Ur going to need to buy the Axles, Shift Rod & Mounts..
Why do I need a shift rod if I need a cable tranny? I thought the two are for different trannys. I thought that the shift rod used a rod to switch gears and the cable tranny used a cable, so why would I need a shift rod for a cable tranny?

[88LXi68]

Originally posted by kicker1_solo
Why do I need a shift rod if I need a cable tranny? I thought the two are for different trannys. I thought that the shift rod used a rod to switch gears and the cable tranny used a cable, so why would I need a shift rod for a cable tranny?

there are two types of trannies:
1) cable actuated clutch trannies
2) hydrolic actuated clutch trannies

Both of these set ups use shift rods to change the gears. The difference is how the clutch is engaged.