***Looking to get complete new audio system*** [Archive] - 3geez.com

Mike's89AccordLX

07-05-2003, 12:07 AM

I have been doing some thinking and I want a new car audio system. I want to start with 6.5" and 6X9" speakers first and if I still don't like the sound I will get new subs and box too. I have been looking at JBL's and was wondering what other people think would be the best speakers. I would want the two sets to be the same brand also. I'm kind of a noob when it comes to car audio, but I like to listen to music and know my current system isn't what I want. I like a crisp, clean, bass pounding speakers. I am looking to spend about $100 for each set of speakers. Unless I find a deal that can't be passed up. Help me out fellow 3geers. I have a Pioneer 5200 deck (2.5 years old) Clarion 6.5's, Sony X-plod rear 6.5's, and 2 x 10" RF subs enclosed, and a 250S RF amp. Tell me what I should do, keeping in mind what I want to spend :) Thanks a lot.

Mike's89AccordLX

07-05-2003, 12:38 AM

I was looking at some alpine 6.5's and 6x9's on ebay and it looks like I can get both sets for under $150 What should I look for in watts? Should I get 2, 3, or 4 way speakers? The 6.5's were like subs. And both sets were the alluminum speakers (dust shields w/ thick rubber) What do you guys think? Should I look at getting these? Or do you guys know of a better alpine speaker model?

shepherd79

07-05-2003, 05:43 AM

i love alpine. i have alpine system all the way. i think it is thge best system. Alpine has been my dream system for a long time, untill i build one for my car. Now i am very happy person.
I recomend alpine a lot.

87DXHatch

07-05-2003, 08:10 AM

lol, that sounded like pure engrish, shepherd...

But I would second his opinion. Alpine Type-R speakers are outstanding speakers for the price. I'd just get the most expensive ones you could afford, unless you can go to a store and demo some.

If you want some other options, try going to www.sounddomain.com or www.thezeb.com and looking at what they have. CDT speakers are very good, and some others: Focal, Crystal, Cadence, Image Dynamics, and if you want to DIY, get a woofer/tweeter/crossover combo from www.partsexpress.com or www.madisound.com

dXsquared

07-05-2003, 10:35 AM

i would sugest some 6.5 Type R components in the front, and some Type R 6X9's in the rear... if you want some nice sound, hit up EBAY and find a four channel alpine amp to run them with... 50watts RMSX4 is plenty, then get a single 12 inch type R with a Alpine mono block amp. then when thats all done, sell your head unit and get a nice alpine deck from Ebay... make sure you get the best you can afford, and make sure it has 3 sets of pre outs. this will make evey thing simpler and it will ensure that you have a system that will kick ass and that is all /////ALPINE...

Travis

Justin86

07-05-2003, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by DXHATCHBACK
i would sugest some 6.5 Type R components in the front, and some Type R 6X9's in the rear... if you want some nice sound, hit up EBAY and find a four channel alpine amp to run them with... 50watts RMSX4 is plenty, then get a single 12 inch type R with a Alpine mono block amp. then when thats all done, sell your head unit and get a nice alpine deck from Ebay... make sure you get the best you can afford, and make sure it has 3 sets of pre outs. this will make evey thing simpler and it will ensure that you have a system that will kick ass and that is all /////ALPINE...

Travis
Shit you took the words right out of my mouth. That is exactely what my system will be like but I want a 15"sub. Type R all the way. Also Pioneer Premier speakers are pretty good to for the price.:)

Mike's89AccordLX

07-05-2003, 12:37 PM

Ok I thought I saw some Type-R subs but I could only find Type-S front and rear speakers. Are these just as good or better? They said they were the 2003 models. (But who knows,? ebay)

Mike's89AccordLX

07-05-2003, 12:47 PM

So these are the best speakers for the buck? Hey can someone help me out and find an amp for those that DX was talking about I will try but probably wont find one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033282646&category=32819
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033674008&category=14942
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033778197&category=14942
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033887941&category=32819

Justin86

07-05-2003, 01:04 PM

Those componets are 6.75" not 6.5" but they retail for like $250. Make them fit.
The 6x9" are usally around $200
For the amp wind one with a ratting of 50watts RMSX4. Anything higher then that will blow the speakers. The amp will power 4 speakes with 50 watts which is all you need. Happy hunting.

Justin86

07-05-2003, 01:25 PM

Here are some Alpine amps that will work. MRV-F340 $400 and MRV-F450 $500. There isn't any on ebay but check out sounddomanian.

dXsquared

07-05-2003, 07:00 PM

those are the speakers mike.. and there is no such thang as 6 3/4 inch speakers.. they are 6.5 's

that guy doesnt know how to look on ebay for shit... there are like 50!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3034116533&category=39740
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033309096&category=39740

when you get a 4 channel amp, you have you have at least 2 sets of pre outs. then use the PASS through to hook up the subs. thats why i sugest a deck with 3 sets of pre outs ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033799946&category=39755

Travis

dXsquared

07-05-2003, 07:45 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033484968&category=39740

Mike's89AccordLX

07-05-2003, 07:52 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033709598&category=39750

Here's my deck.

A Dawg Jr

07-05-2003, 07:59 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033370247&category=18799

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AMP

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BOOM BOOM BOOM

Mike's89AccordLX

07-05-2003, 08:49 PM

I think I will get that alpine deck and the type R speakers and 5 channel amp for now.

A Dawg Jr

07-05-2003, 08:59 PM

Good deal

87DXHatch

07-05-2003, 09:34 PM

I've got a 5-channel Alpine amp I'm selling...

39 watts X 4 into 4 ohms, and 119 X 1 into 4 ohms... if you port the sub, 120 watts makes it pretty damn loud in our cars. Sealed, you can tell you have a sub, but it's not that loud.

Justin86

07-05-2003, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by DXHATCHBACK
those are the speakers mike.. and there is no such thang as 6 3/4 inch speakers.. they are 6.5 's

that guy doesnt know how to look on ebay for shit... there are like 50!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3034116533&category=39740
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033309096&category=39740

when you get a 4 channel amp, you have you have at least 2 sets of pre outs. then use the PASS through to hook up the subs. thats why i sugest a deck with 3 sets of pre outs ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3033799946&category=39755

Travis
Well shit you don't have to get an attitude. I check ebay and I didn't get any results for Alpine multi channel amps. Maybe when you checked 4 hours later some news ones showed up. Maybe you typed in a different key word then I did "Alpine amps". Maybe I should have wrote amplifier insdead of amp. Well I'm sorry.
I'm sitting here looking at my Crutcfield magazine and they are saying 6.75" diameter. Yes all the woofer diameters are 6.5 but when they say 6.75" it means that the speaker is a little bigger, so it may be mounted higher or be deaper anything that could cause some problems with it fitting.
Also when I gave a price that is what it would normally cost. You might get lucky and find one that was stolen for half price.

dXsquared

07-05-2003, 11:22 PM

grrrrrrrrrrrrr to you too

i had a 4 hour convo with mike tonight

he is getting a full KENWOOD eXcelon system
1000 watt sub amp
650 watt 4 channel
eXcelon 6.5's front and rear
1 farad cap
and a nice little eXcelon head unit

Travis

dXsquared

07-05-2003, 11:23 PM

oh yah.. and 2 12 inch eXcelon DB+ woofers in a custom box

Travis

Mike's89AccordLX

07-06-2003, 12:30 AM

DXHATCHBACK helped me figure out what I want and what would be good for my needs. I just got one thing to say. I'm f*cking broke. I will be getting a huge pay check from my job on thursday and I got some cash left over. Oh and you forgot to add a 2 gauge wire kit, that wire distributor. I'm planing on making a fiberglass box. I have a old friend that is a professional stereo installer, and he makes fiberglass boxes. Bad part is I haven't talked to him in like 8 months so hopefully he will help me out.

Justin86

07-06-2003, 08:57 AM

Isn't 2 gauge a little big. That is like battery wire. That huge ass thick shit under your hood.

A Dawg Jr

07-06-2003, 09:08 AM

How do you plan on installing all this?

dXsquared

07-06-2003, 11:23 AM

2 guage is big, but he has a 1000 watt amp for his sub and a 650 watt amp for his speakers... thats alot of amps to pull... he could have run 4 guage, but why not get 2 gauge just incase... plus he is gonna split it from a single 2 to a double 4 AWG out

and he has a friend that knows how to install shit

Travis

Mike's89AccordLX

07-06-2003, 11:42 AM

Oh DXHATCHBACK my brother has is 1000 watt Kenwood still I need to find out what it is though. It's like 7 months old. Would that be too big for the speakers?

Justin86

07-06-2003, 06:13 PM

Well that is cool. Now just got to bust out the money. :)

Mike's89AccordLX

07-06-2003, 08:40 PM

I paid for everything except the two amps. So in a week I will have everything.

dXsquared

07-07-2003, 06:34 AM

that 1000 watt kenwood is a bit too big..

just get that 650 watt Kenwood, its only 170 bucks and its like super awesome

Travis

Mike's89AccordLX

07-07-2003, 08:49 AM

No it would be for the 2 12's not the speakers. He wants $120 for it and it's scratched up. It's a 2 channel amp. I don't think I will get it though. I kinda want to get eXcelon everything now. Oh and DX I fixed everything with the sub mix up on ebay. The lady said as long as I buy one set it will be ok.

Justin86

07-07-2003, 09:26 AM

That is sweet. It should be abe to wake up the neighbors. Well at least that is how I judge loudness.

NXRacer

07-07-2003, 09:36 AM

Majestic amps are good for the wallet and they sound good too. Audiobahn makes good subs and amps as well and they are priced really well also. Of course, if you can afford Alpine, thats deffinately the way to go.

Mike's89AccordLX

07-07-2003, 09:36 AM

I think I will get a Q Logic box for both 12's. The new ones look pretty sweet. And what I will do is build a custom trunk around the subs. I will draw up some pictures of what my brother and I are thinking about doing. It will be kinda like a pyrmid design with amps on the sides and subs in the middle. Then I will have secret stuff too.

Justin86

07-07-2003, 09:55 AM

Yea like a 70 shot hidden.

Mike's89AccordLX

07-07-2003, 01:07 PM

No like I will have a hidden door to be able to get the donut if I ever needed it and fire extinguishers and that's all I'm saying for now.

dXsquared

07-07-2003, 01:46 PM

did you recieve anything yet??

Travis

Justin86

07-07-2003, 03:19 PM

Well a hidden door with a bottle of NOS would be sweet too.

Mike's89AccordLX

07-07-2003, 05:16 PM

Yes yes it would be sweet. I didn't get anything other than my STRUT BAR for the engine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm going to make them for people that have WEBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justin86

07-07-2003, 07:40 PM

Sweet for th webber guys. I could use one in the rear.

87accordDxRocFosStyl

07-07-2003, 11:20 PM

Hey Mike dont want to put a damper on your Alpine trip but my Buddy just got some Type R components and tried to put em up front but they didnt fit (depth-window wouldnt roll down all the way) in the factory spot under the grills so if you buy em you'll have to custom mount em, we built fiberglass kickpanels for his mids and and put the tweets in the a pillars flush mount. Looks nice and sounds pimp, he has a Alpine deck and its awesome with those components. Just trying to help, later.

87accordDxRocFosStyl

07-07-2003, 11:27 PM

Upon further reading I noticed you decided to go Kenwood Excelon. Good choice if you buy kenwood amps never buy plain kenwood my shop sells em and well be the first to tell you that they are way overrated for power and reliability we sk many of there bigger ones back and we are thinking of not selling em anymore. But the excelon amps are nice, clean, clear, and friggin loud amps. Be careful of their subs though kind of sketchy if not used properly. LAter , James

Mike's89AccordLX

07-08-2003, 10:18 AM

Thanks for the advice. And I forgot to mention that the strut bars will work with FI 3geez so everyone can buy them unless you have a stock airbox. So those people should do a custom intake.

Mike's89AccordLX

07-10-2003, 09:33 AM

Hey guys would this wire kit be a good buy and work well with my system? I couldn't find 2 gauge wires so I don't know if 4 is good enough to handle the power.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3034744965&category=18796

And DXHATCHBACK did I only need one set of RCA's? Or did I need 2 for some reason? I can't remember sh*t man I forgot to order my wires, distributor block, etc... So now I will have my subs, speakers, and HU tomorrow and won't have amps or wires or anything to hook them up. Well I did buy a new wiring harness.

Mike's89AccordLX

07-11-2003, 10:31 AM

Alright I bought a 2gauge wire kit and a 4 channel RCA setup. I'm buying the box for my subs today.

I just got my eXcelon cd player in the mail today with my eXcelon subs! I should get the eXcelon speakers in about an hour. They are so fricken sweet looking! I will take pictures later today of the subs in a new box. And my HU and speakers. The subs are 1200W peak and 300RMS (two 12's)