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PogiLXI
07-16-2003, 09:47 PM
4 infinity Refrence 12's with a Orion HCCA 275 G4 at about 1\2 an ohm. 2 power Caps, Boston Acoustics in the front doors and infinity Refrences in the Rear, With Kenwood Excelon 4Ch with a Clarion head unit, yes I must say I have a VERY VERY banging System. oh yah a optima Gell Cell bat.

MrBen
07-16-2003, 09:51 PM
4 pioneer 6.5" (top of the line pioneer), sony xplod 50x4 deck, 10" audio concepts sub, with an upcoming bazooka el1500 mono amp.

BITESIZE
07-16-2003, 09:52 PM
Pogilx

Damn, how much horsepower ya runnin? I'll bet that weighs alot too. :) Nice system, I bet it does bang and if it does let's see some pictures of this bangin system.

PogiLXI
07-16-2003, 09:55 PM
it really doesnt way that much, about as much as another person in the car, no biggie. Ill get photos tommaro, Its 2 in the morning!

BITESIZE
07-16-2003, 09:56 PM
Sorry, I forgot it's only 11:57 back west. :)

PogiLXI
07-16-2003, 09:58 PM
anyone else!!!

BITESIZE
07-16-2003, 10:01 PM
Good things come to those who wait.

shepherd79
07-17-2003, 04:56 AM
alpine cdm-7871 HU, 4 alpine 6 3/4" speakers, 4 channel alpine amp, mono alpine amp, and 12" 4ohm alpine type S

87DXHatch
07-17-2003, 07:30 AM
HCCA 275G4! Nice! High-quality...

I'm running:
Tsunami 1100D on my Elemental Designs E15A sub (1100 watts @ 1 ohm)
Tsunami 4440 on my set of Adire Kodas (220 X 2 @ 4 ohms)
Alpine-7998 head unit... (hasn't gotten here yet :()
Monitor-1 5 band EQ
Stinger wiring

jigga225
07-17-2003, 12:20 PM
Deck : JVC Digifine 2.2 MP3 Player
Speakers front : Diamond M5 Components
back : Audiobahn 6.5" separates
Trunk: oooh shit! 2 15" Farenheit Ck-15
Amp : Autotek 750.1 (subs), Autotek 400.4 (inside speakers)
Extra: Lighting audio Cap, and 4ga. wiring all over

Bloodlust
07-17-2003, 12:55 PM
Just look at my signature at the bottom, has all of my audio components there. Pretty good eh?

Bloodlust
07-17-2003, 01:01 PM
Pogi, more subs does not necessarily mean more noise. I had two MB Quart PWD304's in a sealed box, and I was only putting out about 110 DB's. You ask me why? Because of the amount of air that you have in the box, and how much room for air. You can have all the subs you want, and power them however much you want, and it just might not beat my One 12 in a bandpass box. I put out 130 DB's with just 1 in the bandpass! I am not trying to bash on your system, I am just trying to tell you its not how many subs you have, its the box. But all around it sounds like a really nice setup. Power distribution sounds excellent. Speakers are high range quality, but MB Quart has always been the best! (Just my opinion) Well, thats what I got right in the Audio Components section of my signature. Read it if you feel like it. AGAIN: I AM NOT TRYING TO BASH YOUR SYSTEM SO DONT GET ALL DEFENSIVE ON ME! Thanks.

NXRacer
07-17-2003, 01:35 PM
when my car was running and my system was in it i had:

Panasonic CQ-DF402U
2 12" sony xplodes in a bandpass box (shitty box)
1 300w alpine amp
stock 6x9's
infinity fronts

stizle
07-17-2003, 02:00 PM
Hmm lets just say that u can hear me comin from bout a block or two awaay. I dont claim to have the best shit in the world but i can hold my own.

PogiLXI
07-17-2003, 03:10 PM
Bloodlust, I know Exactly what you mean, a PORTED box is going to Slam a Sealed box in SPL, but SQ the Sealed is going to win. I belive the 4th Order bandpass has better SQ but the Box has to be Made to the Speekers Specs, and what I herd making that box is damn near impossible to get all the Demensions right,

I want to compete is SPL, I was going to port the 4 12's but the air space for EACH sub is way to big and the combined port is huge! heh, so I had to go with Sealed, its in a shape of a Triangle where the point is flat.
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/ \ <---- kinda like that. 1\2in MDF with clear plexie top with Black Forminca all around.


heres my problem, the amp I have the Orion 275 g4 is a huge Red rocket (hahahah) monster, I cant mount it on the floor cause the box, I have it Screwed to the Side of the Box on the long back, I need to move it cause it Gets mighty hot,

87DXHatch
07-17-2003, 03:16 PM
Welll IMO 130 db isn't very impressive... I hit that with a single 12" sealed, with 220 watts.

You really like MB Quart? They have a very sibilant and harsh tweeter... you like that sound? Or do you have it EQ'd down...

PogiLXI
07-17-2003, 06:30 PM
MB Quarts are alright, I like Boston Acoustiks for Mids and highs.

cdscowboy
07-17-2003, 07:10 PM
HU: Sony Xplod 650X - 52x4W
Front: Sony Xplod 3-way 6.5s
Rear: Sony Xplod 3-way 6x9s
Subs: Two JBL 10" in Subzero box powered by 240W Kenwood amp running through a .500f cap

It hits plenty hard for me, and the bass is adjustable from the drivers seat...did some custom work:D It's the little wheel on the center console:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/349000-349999/349828_8_full.jpg

PogiLXI
07-17-2003, 08:57 PM
that wheel is Phat, Like that shiznit.

Bloodlust
07-17-2003, 10:15 PM
Well the new MB Quart Reference Series has built in adjustable crossovers. You can make the treble less agressive, which I dont like to be too aggressive, so I turned them down a bit. But the drivers are outstanding. You havent heard MB Quart until you have heard their Reference series. They just came out and I was one of the first ones in my area to even see them. I will take pics of them tomorrow. And Pogi, I would be careful mounting that amp on the back of that box if it is carpeted, it might catch fire lol. Just kidding, I dont think you will have that problem. Sounds like a nice setup.

Bloodlust
07-17-2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by 87DXHatch
Welll IMO 130 db isn't very impressive... I hit that with a single 12" sealed, with 220 watts.

You really like MB Quart? They have a very sibilant and harsh tweeter... you like that sound? Or do you have it EQ'd down...

What kind of sub do you have that puts out 130 Db in a sealed box, and running 220 watts is simply impossible. :huh:

PogiLXI
07-17-2003, 10:55 PM
My Friend hit around 145Db's in his HCCA 12 with my Amp. and it was ported in a 96 eclipse.

87DXHatch
07-18-2003, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by Bloodlust
What kind of sub do you have that puts out 130 Db in a sealed box, and running 220 watts is simply impossible. :huh:

It was an Onyx LS 12" prototype... they're in production now, I believe, for pretty cheap. I had it in a 1.8 cubic foot sealed box... it would have been louder if I had put it in a smaller box.

130 Db is just very easy to achieve... I am very sure I could design an enclosure to hit 140 db with 220 watts with just about any 10" or bigger woofer, provided I had something like an SUV to work with for space... enclosure plays 100X bigger role in determining volume (and transient response) than the power you give the speaker.

That's a nice score for a single ported 12"... nice work ;)

Bloodlust
07-18-2003, 10:50 AM
Yeah remember I didnt want to have my whole car a big giant speaker you know? I tried to make the box as small as possible without decreasing quality and Db rating. I would say for the box, the sub, and the amount of power I am running to it, it sounds pretty damn good. I havent actually tested it with a Db meter, I just went by what the box design software told me it would do. And it is true you can hit 130 Db fairly easy, but can you keep the sound quality up to a level where you think it is a sealed box? So many people who have heard my system ask me if I have like 3 12's back there. Trust me, you just have to hear it.
And remember, I only have an 89 accord, you cant put much in the trunk of one of them.

87DXHatch
07-18-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Bloodlust
Yeah remember I didnt want to have my whole car a big giant speaker you know? I tried to make the box as small as possible without decreasing quality and Db rating. I would say for the box, the sub, and the amount of power I am running to it, it sounds pretty damn good. I havent actually tested it with a Db meter, I just went by what the box design software told me it would do. And it is true you can hit 130 Db fairly easy, but can you keep the sound quality up to a level where you think it is a sealed box? So many people who have heard my system ask me if I have like 3 12's back there. Trust me, you just have to hear it.
And remember, I only have an 89 accord, you cant put much in the trunk of one of them.

Well... if you were only hitting 110 with your other install I'd think something was up with your install... making ANYTHING car audio sound good is at least 75% install, 25% equipment...

I can very easily hit 130 while "keeping the sound quality up to a level where you think it is in a sealed box." It's possible to make ported boxes that have as good of sound quality as sealed boxes, you just have to know what you're doing. If you were in MN I'd let you hear my box I built for a sub I have coming soon... it's 4.2 cubic feet gross, so you can fit fairly big boxes in 89 accord's trunks...

When making sealed boxes, the smaller you make them, the more power the sub can handle, and the louder it gets, but it loses low-end extension and gains peaks in the middle of the lower octave. When you make the boxes bigger, you gain low-end extension, and it smooths out any peaks, but you lose power handling (however, the sub doesn't need as much power to produce equivalent output due to a gain in efficiency), and sometimes it won't be as loud. You just have to model your subs up with a modeling program to find the box size that's the best for you.

PogiLXI
07-19-2003, 01:07 AM
Also the Efficency of the subs, how well it can use its given power, for Instance, a HEAVY constructed sub is going to need more power to get that Sub to move, a Lighter sub can use LESS power to move. Its a game between Ridgity and Lightness, thus the whole Efficency. I herd once JL's where so good cause they where so Efficent.

89AccordLXI666
07-20-2003, 09:08 PM
H/U:Pioneer Premeire with Screen savers... forget model number..lol

6x9's: Pioneer sorry forget which model...lol

Tweeters: RockfordFosgate

Amp: Crunch U.S.A. Drive Series amp Bridged to 1,600 watts

Subs: One Rockford Fosgate XLC & one Nakamitchi sub both 10inch in a sealed box but I took em out and now put in 2 10inch Pioneer IMPP subs in a bandpass box which gives it a sh!t load more of bass then in a sealed box... but yeah box design does matter in SQ as in bass n sh!t.... but the Bass is very loud on my system... hell I'm already a lil deff on my right ear cuz of it, oh well right, were all probaby gonna get deff n e ways someday right? LOL Well thats all I have now.. Although I do plan on getting a Rockford Fosgate capacitor soon and the new 18inch Solorbaric square sub soon so that will be loud as hell...probably gonna need some bulletproof windows now huh..lol

dXsquared
07-20-2003, 09:13 PM
Kenwood eXcelon headunit
JBL Power Series front 6.5's
PPI Carbon Fibre 6X9's out back
one 12 inch Kenwood W3005 12 inch sub in a custom 2 cube ported box
Audiovox 4 channel speaker amp
Jensen 200 watt RMS sub amp

Travis

Bloodlust
07-21-2003, 09:46 AM
I used a program to design my box. It is designed for an 12-inch MB Quart PWD304, and is tuned at 60 Hrz. The sub weighs 35 pounds. It is dual voice coil. RMS is 700 watts. Peak is 1,500. I run it at about 750. I could do more but I dont want to push it. And whoever said that JL's are good subs?! No offense, but they dont know what they are talking about. Those subs suck monkey balls. I have two 12 inch JL W3's sitting in my basement trying to sell but I would feel guilty selling them for more than 50 bucks a pop. The subs only handle peak power of 250 watts! RMS is around 150! My 6x9s handle more than that. I am sorry, but the cream of the crop is either MA Audio, or MB Quart for speakers and subs. Of course some of those prototype models might be better, but I am talking about stuff that people can buy without getting hooked up with prototype stuff. I would say that how much I have spent on my system, it sounds hella good! Good luck to all with their systems. That was my little rant, sorry if I offended anyone.

87DXHatch
07-21-2003, 10:06 AM
Ummm... bandpasses have two tuning frequencys... the lower and upper cut-offs. That's why they're called bandpass...

What year are those W3's? I'll take 'em off your hands for $115 shipped for both, if both are in good working order.

PogiLXI
07-21-2003, 11:49 AM
JL w3's suck balls, the W6's where the shit. And the w7's!!!!!! SHIT! You cant tell me that the w7's suck Monkey balls.

87DXHatch
07-21-2003, 11:59 AM
JL's whole line is good. From the W0's to the W8.... (just kidding, there's no W8, W7's the top). The only thing is that they're overpriced. JL's whole sub line is geared towards SQ, though... so without some extra time spent on box design, you're not going to get tremendous output (except for W6v2's and W7's). W7's are at the very top for both SPL and SQ out of almost any sub out there... there are a few subs up there, and it mainly comes down to preferences, but the W7's are amazing woofers.

PogiLXI
07-21-2003, 12:14 PM
yah, JL's are over priced. Im thinking of Redoing my Box. i have 4 12's and the Box is just to big, Im thinking of building a ported box Along the back with the subs aiming twards the front angled upwerd, though I dont remember how long the port has to be, If I rememeber Right, It was huge. can anyone find out the port Lengnth on the 4 infinity 12 Refrences. Thanks.

NOAHS88accord
07-21-2003, 09:30 PM
Headunit-Clarion proaudio
Front speakers- Infinity 6.5" kAPPA COMPONENTS
Rear speakers- same

Amp- Planet Audio 300x2
Subs- Oldschool Rockford Fosgate Punch DVC

looking for some good quality 15" subs for a descent price

Extras- Autopage alarm/remote starter with paging system
4 gauge wiring, 1 farad cap, and an assortment of neon lights

KoNEY
07-22-2003, 12:37 PM
i may not seem to have too much, but i kow i have it right, as of this moment, i have two brand-new rf punch he 15's, and two 2000-model rf punch xlc 12's, and im runnin em on a rf punch 500a2 that pushes 500 wattts rms at 4 ohms, and im soon ti install my rf punch 250.2 on all of my highs, because my pioneer premier deh-p430 is about to blow my 6 1/2's......so im gonna put a cpl of rfx component systems in my doors and deck for that 250 to push.

2 he 15's
2 xlc 12's
1 punch 500a2
1 punch 250.2
pioneer premier deh-p430 (with 3 sets of outputs on RCA...fr/re/sub
1 pioneer premier 12 disc changer with text
4 awg power wire (17 ft)
1 RF hi-amp fuse holder (inline)
2 RF SE fuse holders (inline)

(the 4 awg wire goes back to my trunk, but it wont fit in the punch 500's power block, only 8 awg will, so i put an rf fuse holder on my power and ground 4 awg wires, and came out of the other end of the holders with 8 awg, and then ran that to my amp...ill get pics soon

KoNEY
07-22-2003, 12:55 PM
2 rockford fosgate punch xlc 12's 4 sale....$175 in a box.....excellent condition, i bought them used from a guy who bought them new, and all he had on them was a boss 400...it was smaller than my punch 250...but anyway, i had them in my car hooked up in stereo to my 500, but it was turned way down, id really hate to get rid of em, but they wont fit in my trunk along with the he 15's, and still have enough space for appropriate box size, but im goin with 15's and thats it, (well, evything in my other post except fot the 12's)


email me for pics

PogiLXI
07-22-2003, 07:23 PM
15's. I wish I had 15's but I think 4 15's is Over kill, Im happy with my 4 12's. 12's have a good Over all sound, though 15's get the low BALLZ Shattering Bass.

neoblue89lxi
07-22-2003, 07:29 PM
the jlw7 will blow everything away with a magnet that weighs around 60 pounds. They are expensive at about 900 dollars. You do definitly get what you pay for.

PogiLXI
07-22-2003, 07:38 PM
HELLLLLZ YAH! the W7!!! Thats a monster! Though I still like the Juggernauts and The I forget what it is Called, but It looks like an inverted Speeker, I think Its Called Stroker, and MATTS Forget about it! Thogh these are All SPL shit, not really SQ but I wana Compete sooooo.

86accordhatchback
07-23-2003, 12:09 PM
the jl w7's are da bomb. i'd love to have some of them. right now i have a pioneer premier deh-p440 head unit that puts out 50x4 and i have infinity 6.5's in front and rear that are 50 watts rms.
i've got a custom built sealed box that fires down towards the spare tire. it houses two 15" mtx 6000 series wich are 300 watts rms. and i've got a mtx 1501d mono block amp runnin the subs. 1000 watts rms.

PogiLXI
07-23-2003, 08:11 PM
hey, You got a pic of that Box??? Im Redoing my Box, I need some Ideas.

86accordhatchback
07-24-2003, 07:54 AM
i cant' get my pics uploaded. but it's a simple idea. just make the board that mounts the speakers like 2 inches deep into the box and then just face the box down.

StUpiD8000
07-24-2003, 10:56 AM
deck........sony cdx-ca850x (http://www.car-audio-experts.com/sony-cd-player-cdx-ca850x.shtml)

speakers
front.......Audiobahn ABC600 Components (http://www.carstereospecialists.com/audiobahn/speakers/ABC600T.htm)
rear........Audiobahn ACX680P (http://www.carstereospecialists.com/audiobahn/speakers/ACX680P.htm)
Sub.........Audiobahn AWC12 (http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/ABNAWC12T?ref=deal)

amps
Hi's&mids..Lanzar 418 (http://www.lanzar.com/itempage.asp?MODEL=VIBE418)
sub amp..Lanzar 258 (http://www.lanzar.com/itempage.asp?MODEL=VIBE258)

New sub and deck soon.......I hope

PogiLXI
07-28-2003, 11:40 PM
anyone else

88LX-iSedan
07-29-2003, 01:16 AM
HU = Pioneer DEH-P8200R
Fronts = Infinity Refrence 652i
Pushing Fronts = Kenwood KAC-626
Subs = 12" RF Punch
Pushing Subs = Crunch DS-4002
Wiring = Monster/Tsunami

Mattphi
07-30-2003, 10:59 AM
Head Unit: Pioneer model 7500
Front: Pioneer 6 1/2's
Back: Pioneer 6 by 9's

Not too great but it all does the trick for me