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briggs19
08-06-2003, 05:36 PM
heyi have a chace to buy a s2000 for parts relly cheap from an uncle i dont have the money to get it fixed back to normal so i wanna make make the motor fit in my car i have the rear axle and everything would this be possible to do or should i just part the car out.

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08-06-2003, 05:38 PM
Bolts right in with Place Racing Mounts.. :) :rolleyes:

briggs19
08-06-2003, 05:46 PM
oh ok cool so ill take the cars into the shop and have it done ill let you guys know how it goes.

johndej
08-06-2003, 06:19 PM
yes, do that. go ahead, never been tried here so if you do it you'll be the 1st :D

SiR
08-06-2003, 09:02 PM
Everybody is with you on this project.

bobafett
08-06-2003, 10:55 PM
BUAHAAH good luck. might as well throw in a fucking supra TT setup instead... actually better yet. dual engine 13b wankel power! :) :) have fun...

pimp86LX
08-07-2003, 02:38 AM
naw naw it'll work. Just go up to a shop and say "Can you put this motor in for me?"


:D

NXRacer
08-07-2003, 08:08 AM
My uncle just gave me an s2000 parts car too! Said i can do whatever i want with it. Check out my pictures!!

http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/new/s2k/s20001.jpg
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/new/s2k/s20007.jpg

I think i'm gonna take out the motor and put it in my 3G. Hey briggs, lets get together when its done.....

Dibbs
08-07-2003, 08:43 AM
I'm down with a Cummins diesel engine. It comes w/ a turbo! Make sure you put a damn good set of iridium spark plugs in there before you push that boost controller to 30 psi!

86hatchbackLXi
08-07-2003, 09:23 AM
great, soon we will have the worlds first rwd 240hp 89 accord. you have an LX how do you plan to do this? the labor alone is going to cost more than like 10 of our cars are worth.

briggs19
08-07-2003, 09:29 AM
hey guys just got back from the shop they said it could be done with a lot of time and money, i need to go to the junk yard and pick up a transfer case for the rear end. if anyone knows is they sll rol cages for a lxi please let me know. they said it would be needed to support the frame of the car.. the s2000 would cost round 12000 to get fixed because the frame of that was bent so if i could pay half that to get this to work id be happy.. thanks for all the positve posts

NXRacer
08-07-2003, 09:37 AM
you'd have to get a roll cage custom made. Why dont you just use the entire s2000 drive train?

wprocomp
08-07-2003, 09:44 AM
ok dude...this is not going to be just a SWAP...I looked into doing it awhile back in a hatch and it would work but now that I do not have accsess to a chassis jig I just forgot about it...It is possible but you are looking at cutting the intire car up and buildng a complety custom tube frame...as for a rearend I found that the AE86 was the close to fit but I would not use it because it is weak as hell...a S2000 rear end is too complecated and is too short so just get a 12 bolt chevy or 9-inch ford and chop it and get custom yokes made for it...also you will have to push the firewall back and make a tranny humb inside...too much work and too much $$$...if you have the $$$ do it,other than that dont even try it

adams86lxi
08-07-2003, 10:39 AM
if you have the money go for it! It will be the best 3gee swap ever and they sell the vortech supercharger for it that adds something like 100+ hp:D GOOD LUCK!!!

briggs19
08-07-2003, 10:49 AM
thank you very much for the info i think i am getting another person to help me with the cost... the guys at the shop said it would be alot cheaper to get alot of the parts from the junk yard... i think these guys can pull it off because they turned a crx into a mid engine car using a 91 nsx motor.

evilredaccord
08-07-2003, 11:04 AM
that's going to be da s#it

DBMaster
08-07-2003, 11:08 AM
This may be a dumb question, but is the S2000 totalled? If not, I would rather be driving around in an S2000 any day of the week! :)

chriskatana
08-07-2003, 12:31 PM
NXRacer,
you almost had me, I just barely caught the body clips on that car...

Tref_LXI
08-07-2003, 12:58 PM
got a few questions for you
#1 where do you expect to get the money for everything? Paying a shop to do all the work is going to add up really fast seeing as how most charge 70 bucks an hour.
#2 Why not just get a lx-i and drop in a b18c5, slap a turbocharge on it, and then call it a day.
#3 who in the fuck has an uncle that gives away s200's regardless of condition? um year 2000.....

briggs19
08-07-2003, 01:40 PM
1 . i work and it will prolly be round 25 and hour
2. wont be as fun
3 it was totaled and he dont wanna deal with it im buying it from him for a bout 4500

87accordlxph
08-07-2003, 02:38 PM
Wow man that would be sweet!
Hope you know what your getting yourself into.
I do have faith in ya.
Best of luck with everything at the shop.

-Mike from Sarnia!

toastyghost
08-07-2003, 10:12 PM
hay matt you rule for saying that PRI shit... :lol

smufguy
08-08-2003, 05:36 AM
hahaha, dude mike that was one nasty shit bro. I love that humor. I gotta see you and maurice together that would be one wacky shit dude. hehehhe bolts right in :lol ur da man.

jerky_lxi
08-08-2003, 11:35 AM
Well why dont you just get them to make mounts for the engine and do most of the work yourself, then take it in and have them do the rest of the work. You will also have to convert to fuel injection, new wire harness, convert to rwd, they dont make mounts for this swap so you need them custom made= money, replace a whole bunch of things inside of your engine bay, convert to 6 speed, and plenty more after that. So if you want to chuck out the money for it all i would expect to pay around 10k total to get it all ready if a shop was to do it.

BITESIZE
08-08-2003, 11:52 AM
I'll believe it when I see it.

88 Accord DX
08-08-2003, 12:29 PM
ok dude im gonna be blunt with this. if we have trouble getting B18's into our cars WHAT THE FUCK makes you think you can get an F20 in there??? even if you did get it in there, first time you red line it, your motor is laying on the ground. and dont even think about taking sharp turns.

in other words, part it out.

briggs19
08-08-2003, 01:12 PM
yea thats for the advice if it doesnt work out ill part it out but im not ready to part it you yet already they have pulled the lxi motor and are drafting ways to try to make the motor fit.

NXRacer
08-08-2003, 01:20 PM
well if they're realy doing this then it should be an interesting project. Take some pics of both cars and the progress, you'll get less crap thrown at ya for it if you do.

OT - what ever happend to that guy who was putting the acura V6 in his car? last i remember he was having wiring problems or something.

briggs19
08-08-2003, 01:37 PM
k cool pics should be up within the next day

A2B Accord
08-08-2003, 02:35 PM
If the point of this project is to be different and possibly spend more money than anyone would on an 89 Accord than GO 4 IT!
Don't forget youll need the s2000 's ENTIRE suspension, rear diff., engine mounts, tranny mounts, ALL of the engine bay brackets, custom drive shaft....etc, etc,etc. Can't forget the countless (and expensive) man hours in the shop and under the welder.
If your goal is for a rear wheel drive drifting 250+ hp beast, than buy a car thats already halfway there (rx7, nissan 240, ae86, supra, awd class unlimited) It would be alot cheaper 2 boost and build one of these babies.

NXRacer
08-08-2003, 02:48 PM
sure it would be cheaper to buy another car, but wouldnt it be SOOOOOO cool to have a RWD 3G? If he's willing to spend the money and time in it, i say go for it. I wont believe it until i see proof tho.

Accord2.1SI
08-08-2003, 03:27 PM
That would be so bad ass if this acctually gets done ... if you're telling the truth about this then i wish you the best of luck ... I tought about doing this myself but i don't have the resources you do ... my accord has a B21 from a 3rd gen prelude and that puts out pretty good power ... and ive never heard of anyone else putting a B21 in a 3G ... i really respect your originality and overall balls to put that motor in a 3G

A2B Accord
08-09-2003, 07:13 AM
I got you on that first full tank of gas if the project is a success.
Seriously!

iloveJDMblackrims69
08-11-2003, 12:52 PM
dude......... u know theres a lot fo work right? you have to convert it to RWD!!!

zero.counter
08-11-2003, 01:35 PM
I am not going to be the nay sayer on this subject, although I personally find it hard to swallow. I believe that you do in fact have your hands full and your work cut out.

If it seems that you get to the point that you are way over your head, might I suggest selling the front clip of the S2000 and use the funds generated from such sale to purchase either...
a) a newer car
b) a b series engine and required components and then then either piecemeal a turbo setup or purchase a kit.

They would be a little more logical and feasable.
If not, then good luck and let me know how it goes!
M.

NXRacer
08-11-2003, 01:50 PM
If its possible to do a V8 Powered Accord (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2427650262&category=6254) then its possible to do this i'd imagine.

89AcCOrDmike
08-11-2003, 02:32 PM
Your crazy Fucks....good luck!

G Man89
08-11-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by NXRacer
If its possible to do a V8 Powered Accord (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2427650262&category=6254) then its possible to do this i'd imagine.

:omg: That's amazing! That just proves that if there's a will there's a way. If briggs19 has the money and the will then it can be done. That would be so cool if he does do it.

johndej
08-11-2003, 08:00 PM
thats like the 3rd or4th V8 i've seen in a 4th gen.

adams86lxi
08-11-2003, 10:13 PM
yea their was another one on ebay not to long ago maybe that is it!

ICEMAN707
08-14-2003, 08:51 AM
holy damn!!! that's what i can a SLEEPER..lol burn those friggin' domestics with an import (with a domestic engine...how ironic...lol). :lol:

rubberburner
08-14-2003, 08:13 PM
Sweet idea dude. Have you heard of the Rx-7 V8 swap. That would be much cheaper, so you could spend your money on making it REAL fast. But that wouldn't have the same sleeper effect. Just an idea.

toastyghost
08-14-2003, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by ICEMAN707
holy damn!!! that's what i can a SLEEPER..lol burn those friggin' domestics with an import (with a domestic engine...how ironic...lol). :lol:

Ironic? Nope, just fucking STUPID. If you have to drop a domestic motor to have a chance against domestics, you've already admitted that they are better than you and in the process you have also spent a lot more fucking money than someone with comparable performance in a car that it bolts right into. If you have the cash and just want to do something original with it on the other hand, more power to ya. But don't turn this into an import versus domestic thread.

89lxi95zx7
08-15-2003, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by Tref_LXI
got a few questions for you
#1 where do you expect to get the money for everything? Paying a shop to do all the work is going to add up really fast seeing as how most charge 70 bucks an hour.
#2 Why not just get a lx-i and drop in a b18c5, slap a turbocharge on it, and then call it a day.
#3 who in the fuck has an uncle that gives away s200's regardless of condition? um year 2000.....


If someone was up in my buisness asking me where do I expect to get the $,Id tell them to go fuck themself.

toastyghost
08-15-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by 89lxi95zx7
If someone was up in my buisness asking me where do I expect to get the $,Id tell them to go fuck themself.

Actually I'd just plead the 5th... :)

Dibbs
08-15-2003, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by 89lxi95zx7
If someone was up in my buisness asking me where do I expect to get the $,Id tell them to go fuck themself.


:werd:

Versanick
08-16-2003, 03:20 PM
Dude, why would anyone post on a Honda board (or be a participating member), and go pro-American muscle, amidst a swap forum?

Yes. A built chevy v8 with over 500hp is a bit more powerful an engine than a 240hp f20.

Don't get defensive when someone comments about making that honda drag car a sleeper... anyone who pulls up next to it with a 70s muscle car, with intent to race it, knows in about .3245 seconds that it's a built chevy motor. He just found it amusing that the car's outer appearance still looks like a 92 Accord.

you need to cheel out... and hell if they make domestic motors like that anymore... you have to watch the concept cars at rich-man car shows, or buy crate motors and build them from scratch.

You guys crack me up... all that matters is how much air and fuel you burn, and how you convert that explosive energy into power to move the car... cylinders, displacement, it's all garbage. Sure, it's relevant when building motors with similar fuel pressure and design, to believe that larger displacement and more cylinders produce more power.

In reality, a 1,500 hp civic drag car won't get TOO creamed by a 1,500 hp chevy drag car.

http://aempower.com/race_rwdcivic.asp

Anyway, I believe that you could horizontally mount an f20 and custom a connection to a different tranny (k20 tranny?)... I would think that if he brought it to professionals who have put in a few motors in their time, that even if he spent way too much money, they could still make it work.

I think that'd be the bomb...

just make sure that after you're done, you call up your insurance company and get $7,500 in custom car insurance... if your car gets smacked up and there's motor damage.... say goodbye to every paycheck from now until the next time we see Haley's comet.

If you decide that it's a worthwhile spending of your money, go do it.

Don't let these square pessimists bring you down. By the time he built a real b-series motor with a turbo, he'd have spent much more than he is putting an f20 in the car. At least with the value of labor up here in upstate NY... don't know how you guys do it in Virginia... lol


rock on bro

peace

zero.counter
08-16-2003, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Versanick
Dude, rant....rant....rant....rant! :mad:
rock on bro

peace
Jolly good job! You go bbbboooooiiiiii!

ghost_ny
08-16-2003, 04:44 PM
DOESN'T ANYBODY NOTICE THAT THAT PIC WAS AN R/C CAR. CUZ THOSE HOOD PINS ARE BIG AND I'VE NEVER SAW HOOD PINS ON THE TRUNK OF A CAR

mykwikcoupe
08-16-2003, 06:45 PM
as price compered to an s2000 swap i have now about 5600 in my b20aturbo swap and am starting the rebiuld process.

itsa more than i was planning on spending but i will be one of the elite ands thats all that matters.

oh and wasting these bolt on guys with no skil 0or knowledge of how and why to create power

HostileJava
08-16-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by ghost_ny
DOESN'T ANYBODY NOTICE THAT THAT PIC WAS AN R/C CAR. CUZ THOSE HOOD PINS ARE BIG AND I'VE NEVER SAW HOOD PINS ON THE TRUNK OF A CAR

Holy shit. Your right.

one sweet 88 accord
08-17-2003, 07:38 AM
add pictures when the engine is installed

toastyghost
08-18-2003, 06:55 AM
I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist. If you want a 350 drag car, BUY AN F-BODY. All I am saying is that a 350 Accord or any comparable one-of-a-kind swap is an interesting project but not worth it for the performance alone.

A Dawg Jr
08-18-2003, 05:41 PM
Some people just have the money to do it, so they do. It's worth it to them to do something different. Sometimes the value of something is in the accomplishment alone

jlaccord89lxi
08-19-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by rubberburner
Sweet idea dude. Have you heard of the Rx-7 V8 swap. That would be much cheaper, so you could spend your money on making it REAL fast. But that wouldn't have the same sleeper effect. Just an idea.

if you're talkin' about a Mazda RX-7...then there is no V8. That's a rotary engine dude.

jlaccord89lxi
08-19-2003, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by toastyghost
Ironic? Nope, just fucking STUPID. If you have to drop a domestic motor to have a chance against domestics, you've already admitted that they are better than you and in the process you have also spent a lot more fucking money than someone with comparable performance in a car that it bolts right into. If you have the cash and just want to do something original with it on the other hand, more power to ya. But don't turn this into an import versus domestic thread.

Amen brother!

johndej
08-19-2003, 05:13 PM
dude, he is talking about swaping a V8 into the Rx-7

jlaccord89lxi
08-19-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by johndej
dude, he is talking about swaping a V8 into the Rx-7

ah, my mistake.

bboipinoy112
08-19-2003, 05:59 PM
uhmm where is briggs at ? havnt seen him around lately .. since he said he was gon post pics .. like a week or so ago

4sillypwr
08-26-2003, 11:05 AM
hey when you get it done drive it over to grand rapids so i can see it and verify that it actually runs. i hope you have a damn good job to pay for all this.
it might be cheaper to just go to engineering school and then do the swap after you know a little.
of course it can be done. i heard about a daytona drive train in a 1g crx on the resource site. actually verified by a member. so it can be done. hope you have $10k laying around that you don't need anytime soon

toastyghost
08-26-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by 4sillypwr
it might be cheaper to just go to engineering school...
Not the one I went to. :P
$8.5k/yr *4yrs = more than enough to do any swap you could ever dream up. And that was with in-state tuition.