I Really Need Your Help !!!!!!!!!!!

[accordlxi2.0]

i kinda made my version of a cai (til i get the real one)(i used this car basically to test)
i plug the air bleed valve.
i overrode the thermovalve's in the back of the engine.
did the choke aglingment which works better now.
when i did the cai i plugged the vac line that goes on the pass. side of the air cleaner box.
i drove it around and when i went to stop it was high @ hi idle.
adjusted the screw . now the idle is unsteady. and everything is on right.
also i had to adjust the a/f screw AGAIN.
now the damn things running rich.
also when i pump the brake's repeativly the idle goes higher.
halfway home the rpm's drop to about 400-500.
it vibrate's but not alot either.the gas pedal is'nt as loose either i think.
WTF GIVES . . . . . . . .HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

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[3G Jester]

im so confused.......

...pics...?

better explination?

im gfonna go lie down now. my head hurts from trying to desypher that.

[accordlxi2.0]

as stated b4.
i had overrode the thermovalves and it still has a fast idle.
the problem went away.
as it turned out the gas pedal was tugged somewhere causeing the idle to b hi.
cause when i got home that night (after driving it hard).
the rpm's went down to 3-400 rpm's.
but the problem is the fast idle now.
can someone help.

[DanG86LX]

It may be true "fast idle" if the throttle is stuck in Fast Idle Cam, check here. (http://3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23607)

..but it could be false "fast idle" like throttle cable sticking or not enough cable slack when hot outside!

"..also when i pump the brake's repeatedly the idle goes higher."

that's not good at all, check for a vacuum leak @ brake booster, here. (http://3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17227)

[accordlxi2.0]

to b honest danG the pumping brake's kinda helped me.
when the a/f screw was all the way out+pumping brakes=hi idle.
screw all the way in+pumping brakes=shaking.
with the screw just right , it does'nt affect it at all.
but the booster's fine i did the test.
um. . now the vac line going to the air bleed vavle is connected to the fast unloader and choke opener.
so should'nt that disable the fast idle. i'm gonna have to check the fast cam.

BTW, thanx 4 yall help.

[accordlxi2.0]

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[DanG86LX]

:help: with what ?
1. checking the fast cam
2. pumping brakes

[accordlxi2.0]

fast cam how could i disengage that i've already plugged those line's. i tried to look for that step thingy i seen but i could'nt see it really???
the brake's are fine.

[DanG86LX]

Sorry, cannot spot it for u.

Have u tried the trick with lifting gas pedal?

[accordlxi2.0]

yep . . . wait that's when it's warm well i'll try in tha morning.

[accordlxi2.0]

okay i did what you suggested.
i could'nt stop it cause it whould keep pulling.
i put in some strenth to keep it from pulling but i stopped cause i did'nt wanna break the cable.
i forgot to mention that i connected the t-valve's back cause i thought that caused the problem.
ibut i just plugged the choke opener though. and there's like i little black stick that look's like it has a spring on it or something?
any more idea's???????????

[DanG86LX]

Man, 3g Jester was right, ur explanation is so confusing..
U complained about high idle, say after a (long) drive, ur idle is not returning below 1000rpm. With the car in Park, at idle, get ur foot under gas pedal and lift a bit. Does ur idle come down a bit ?
1. yes
2. no
What's ur answer? :rolleyes:

[accordlxi2.0]

no.
plus in park it either 1,000 or 950.
i'm talking about fast idle.
i hate the fact when i start it and it's cold outside. i come back out five minute's or so and it's still at hi idle plus the engine is warmed up.
as i asked before though there's like i little black stick that look's like it has a spring on it or something? thats the fast cam right?
sorry for that confusion.

[DanG86LX]

Great, so is not the cable.

So u complained about ur fast idle not releasing by itself according with coolant temps..
..but it does when u blip the throttle, right?
Now, can u hook a vacuum gauge on #18 ? This is the vacuum line going from Choke Opener (vacuum source) to Fast Idle Unloader (inner prong) and then to T-valve A (air bleed end).
When coolant > 15*C (60*F), ~ 30sec from start, T-valve A cuts the bleed path and #18 gets vacuum. When that happen, ur fast idle should go down one step (out of 4), i.e. from like 2700 -> 2200rpm.
Does it in ur case ? (Yes / No)

Now i'll explain how u spot the Fast Idle Cam (FIC):
Engine off and cold, with air box off, use a good flashlight from the passenger side, facing the choke heater.
FIC is like a small roundish sector with 4 teeth mounted on an axle behind the Choke Heater housing, just visible about 5 o'clock.
Keep throttle slightly opened and then move the choke lever back and forth (choke flap slowly opens and closes), and look at "5 o'clock", spot it ?

[accordlxi2.0]

uuuhhh . . . okay,
lets see.
i actully have the air bleed vavle connected to the choke & trottle unloader.
why cause it soulved the problem as for the sputtering(along with choke alignment.)
so the fiu(the black circle thingy, under the choke) move's along with the choke unloader.
before it never went down.
now it start's @ 1200 then slowly works it's way up to 1600-1800rpm's
but today he said that after a minute of taping the gas it went down to 1200rpm then slowly when down to 950.
as for those cam teeth i'll take a look at it tomarrow.
when i do spot it , how whould i desable them . bend it or something?
thanks'

[DanG86LX]

Well, mine starts @ 2000 goes to 2700 in ~ 30sec so on..
Check the dist advance. @ start up should be way up like 20*, i.e. both #2 and #25 have vacuum.

If u get rid of FIC u might as well get rid of the whole choke system.
Hope u somewhere where is warm in the mornings cuz otherwise u wont be able to start the car!

[accordlxi2.0]

well that's his problem but he want's it to where it idle's hi then work it's way down with out touching the pedal.
well i'm gonna try that too.
thanks

[accordlxi2.0]

UPDATE : i started it this morning checked for vac at both and it was vac.
is'nt the choke electric.
only thing i wanna do is bend the tab that way it'll just stay at a idle.