b20a for everyone

[hoppy]

Hey you guys, are the B20A's for the 3g accord so hard to find in the states?? There are tons of them north of the border in Toronto. I have a JDM B20A w/ 5spd in my 1985 Prelude(yes the 160hp one). I have pics.

Those engines are in every single engine shop here, just the 5spd tranny is a bit rare. I got mine for about $700 CDN.

The rason why there are so many is because people get them confused with the 88-91 Prelude b20A, and then dont know what to do with them.

[$mokenB'$]

you think you can list some shops and some of there prices for the engine and to install it???? im not to far from cananda if the price is right i just might have to make the trip.

[Vinny]

yes they are rare as they were only available on the Japanese Domestic Market (JDM)Accords. You are right they ARE NOT the same B20 that was available in the Prelude and will not work. The mounting is different between the Prelude B20 and the accord. Hope that answers the question

[v4lu3s]

Originally posted by hoppy
Hey you guys, are the B20A's for the 3g accord so hard to find in the states?? There are tons of them north of the border in Toronto. I have a JDM B20A w/ 5spd in my 1985 Prelude(yes the 160hp one). I have pics.

Those engines are in every single engine shop here, just the 5spd tranny is a bit rare. I got mine for about $700 CDN.

The rason why there are so many is because people get them confused with the 88-91 Prelude b20A, and then dont know what to do with them.


can you post some contact info for places to ge them?
im sur a lot of peopel would love to find these engines...i know i would!

[Gregg86DX]

Originally posted by hoppy
Hey you guys, are the B20A's for the 3g accord so hard to find in the states?? There are tons of them north of the border in Toronto. I have a JDM B20A w/ 5spd in my 1985 Prelude(yes the 160hp one). I have pics.

Those engines are in every single engine shop here, just the 5spd tranny is a bit rare. I got mine for about $700 CDN.

The rason why there are so many is because people get them confused with the 88-91 Prelude b20A, and then dont know what to do with them.

Please name a few of those shops.

Thanks,

Gregg

[skiingco]

Hoppy,


Did you rebuild the b20a you bought and if so, where did you go to buy the parts?
Chris

[3G Jester]

Originally posted by Vinny
yes they are rare as they were only available on the Japanese Domestic Market (JDM)Accords. You are right they ARE NOT the same B20 that was available in the Prelude and will not work. The mounting is different between the Prelude B20 and the accord. Hope that answers the question

vinny is right guys.
HOWEVER...it doesnt rule out that you cant put a lude b20 in there....just means itll be more work. and if you are getting the engine so cheap over there then the mods needed to get the b20 in there wouldnt big a big deal cost wise

it might actualy be something to look at for those who want it.
just remeber that it wont drop right in there and it will involve as much custom work as a b18 drop

[RobT5580]

Dont botter with the Prelude B20A unless you want a big headache and a car that you probably wont ever drive again. Place racing worked on swapping a prelude B20A5 into an accord a while back and it landed them in a lawsuit. Basically they had to cut parts of them frame to get it in and the last problem was converting to hydrolic tranny. Im not saying its inpossible but when someone is getting paid to do what they do and have trouble finishing it then thats a sure sign of turning your back. Besides its not that hard to find a accord B20A you just have to look and call around. And i saw a bunch for sale on here that never sold so i dont know what people are waiting for. If your gonna do a B20A lay down the money most that i saw for sale here were dirt cheap for a full swap.

[Oakenfold]

where exactly are all those shops that carry the B20As in Toronto? I would like to know cuz my mechanic is currently looking for one with a manual tranny for me. It would be much easier if I could just tell him the shops that carry it!

[hoppy]

hi

sorry for the long delay and lack of info. It's a busy time of the year, and I probably wont be too helpful until after the new year.
I can post some pics, but how do I do it on this site?

BTW, putting the accord b20a in my prelude wasn't too bad. It was worth the trouble. I did have make custom fr and rr mounts and modify the d-side mount to lower the engine 1.25".But everything is as strong or stronger than OEM. You'll see why when you look at the front of a 2g prelude and a 3g accord. Prelude has a much lower profile, thus less room on top.

[hoppy]

ohh, btw:

i didn't need to rebuild the engine or tranny. Its in perfect condition. basically, got new plugs, clutch, and all rubber items(hoses,belt etc...)

[skiingco]

Hoppy,

For the misc items you listed, who did you go to to get them and what part numbers did the place use to order them. I recall from Yasu's article, he went through a great deal of trouble to convert the pulleys and belts over to USDM. How did you get straight replacement for your stuff. Were the spark plugs and injectors B20A5 stuff?
Chris

[hoppy]

the timing belt unfortunately is a JDM/ European only part. Some USDM parts are close but not quite 100%. I got my cousin in ireland to send me a timing belt (OEM Honda). It was about $50-60. cant remember. As for the other parts, all of them were bought here. My altenator belt for example is a direct replacement for a Hyundai Scoupe (i dont have power steering or A/C)

[Gregg86DX]

So Hoppy, where did you end up finding the B20A at?

Gregg

[hoppy]

Hey, I got my engine from a place about 2hrs away. He had two at the time, but that was about 2 years ago. Some of the other places here have alot of them, but dealing with them on the phone can be a bit difficult. It would be rare to get a straight answer from most since their first language is not English. I'm thinking of being the "middle man" to get these motors to the guys who are in the states or other parts of Canada. Not sure how much shipping will be, but I think that i can have the motors shipped to your shop/home for about $650-700 USD. Let me know what you guys think. Also this way, I can actually check to make sure the engines are in good - excellent shape. I can do a compression test, look under the valve cover etc......

Sean

[hoppy]

One more thing,

I saw quite a few carbed b20a's available as well.

[Gregg86DX]

Sean,

You'd be a hero if you could do this. I assume you are planning to make a bucks off these deals. If not, you should. At that price it would definitely be worth some money to have someone do the scouting and some testing.

I would suggest grabbing a digital camera and go get some pics of few motors. Also, get the numbers off the engine and the transmission. Armed with that information, you could start lining up buyers.

If you need someone to host pics, let me know, I can do it.

Gregg

[hoppy]

Hi guys,

Ya I'm planning on getting to some engine shops in Early January when I have some extra time. I've got the digital camera and I know exactly what to look for(since i've already done the swap). B20A with the brown or black valve cover and the proper mounts(drivers side is the give away) and the b2k5 M/T with obviously a cable clutch and "rod" shifter. Like i said, I have relatives in the UK for timing belts etc.... if you need them. I'm alittle weary about shipping the engines with no money from the buyer, but we'll come up with something...

Sean

[Mike's89AccordLX]

Hopefully within 2 years I will have a JDM B20A in both my 3geez (Accord and Prelude) Prelude gets first JDM motor since it doesn't have one it in right now.

[wannaswapab20]

you said u saw some carbed b20's ? that woudl be great for my 86 carbed lude. do u have a carbed on in ur lude since its a 85? i have a a18/a20a3 in my car now but in the future i woudln mind getting one of these carbed b20's. waht kinda of carbs are on them and are there 2 o just one?

[NXRacer]

http://www.osakajdmmotors.com/

i emailed them about the B20s and they have em for 350 w/out transmissions.

they have INSANE deals on other common honda motors

[hoppy]

Hey,

I converted my lude to fuel inj. It was pretty easy, but time consuming. The carbed b20 is a double cam Twin Carb.

-Sean

[ChaseR]

What Transmissions will fit on this motor? Does the A20 tranny fit?

[wannaswapab20]

i was goign to switch to FI but i decited to stay to carbed. i think any b series tranny will bolt to the b20 is thei correct? im not looking for aa b20 right now becasue of money resaons im gettign all the body work adn gettigna body kit custom made for my lude so i dont have the money now for another engien. but i will keep this post in my favorite places becasue i will want one in the future!

[L3G10N]

Nxracer, i know this place, they are not so far of me. I've saw the 2 b20a who was there and they are with automatic transmission on it. They sell me both b20a with transmission for 600$cdn, for both, not each!

f22a89accordLxi: read! do some search, and you will see that NO!

[Dennis]

Damn, 600 isn't bad at all.
How much does it usually cost to throw the mother in there...?

[ChaseR]

but who wants an auto? is the Cr-V availiable with a Manual?

[jayp6969]

i just wanna convert to efi

[Hash_man_Se_i]

Well I just phoned a new local shop. They dont have B20a's in stock, but he said they could probably bring them in with low KM's and in good shape for about $450 CAD :) ... I think thats just awesome. And I beleive it too, cuz they are selling H22a's for like $2600 right now.

[NXRacer]

but who wants an auto? is the Cr-V availiable with a Manual?
the B20 in question is NOT the CRV motor.....its the JDM Accord motor. The CRV trans will not mount up to the JDM Accord B20.


Damn, 600 isn't bad at all.
How much does it usually cost to throw the mother in there...?
its not much depending on how experienced you are with motor swaps. The JDM accord b20 is a direct bolt in.

[L3G10N]

when i'Ve bought mine, the guy told me it was under 100 000km BUT the guy didn't look at the timing belt cover who had a timing belt change sticker and the kilometer wrote on it was over 109 000km. Don't ever forget that these engine came from 1986 to 1989. so.... do you really think that these engines have all low km?

[Gregg86DX]

Well I just phoned a new local shop. They dont have B20a's in stock, but he said they could probably bring them in with low KM's and in good shape for about $450 CAD :) ... I think thats just awesome. And I beleive it too, cuz they are selling H22a's for like $2600 right now.

Where in Canada are you located? Could you provide some contact information for this shop? Please keep us posted on what you find out.

Gregg

[autox7]

Here is a copy of 2 e-mails that I received from them today:

Hi there,
yes we do carry the JDM B20A engine for HONDA ACCORD
we got just the engine only with all the required parts around it
we dont have the ecu or harness for it
for further questions please dont hesitate to contact us via email
thanks
Osaka JDM Motors
8155 Blvd. Langerier Nord
St-Leonard, H1P 2B7, Canada
(514)382-2338
(514)382-0333

sorry forgot to tell you the price for the motor $300
and we do carry a few of them in stock right now
thanks
Osaka JDM Motors
8155 Blvd. Langerier Nord
St-Leonard, H1P 2B7, Canada
(514)382-2338
(514)382-0333

I am seriously looking at getting one of these motors for my car because it has 321xxx miles on it. And $300 is an absolute steal!!! My only question is this, would I have to convert my car over to EFI? I like the idea of dual Weber's instead, but am unsure if it would work or not.

If somebody else wants a motor or 2 by all means give these people a call.



Where in Canada are you located? Could you provide some contact information for this shop? Please keep us posted on what you find out.

Gregg

[L3G10N]

i can take pics of the engine if you want for you. There's not problem for me :)

and they don'T carry a few. they only have 2

[autox7]

If you don't mind taking some pictures I would greatly appreciate it.

[L3G10N]

i will next week. I have to go to buy a b20a for my young brother.

[autox7]

Cool, thank you.

[bgaccord]

has anybody bought one from these guys yet? ( Osaka JDM Motors
8155 Blvd. Langerier Nord
St-Leonard, H1P 2B7, Canada) if so what shape where they in ? i any good i will call them and get one.

[L3G10N]

i go often there. as i already told, i have to go there to buy a b20a for my little brother. I'll take some pics for you to show what the engine looks. But last time i go, they have only 2 b20a accord and both was complete and really clean. Black top for both. The jdm shop are not so far from my home, oh and they are automatic

[L3G10N]

look all, tuesday i will do the complete tour of all jdm shop around. We have 5 or 6 jdm shop who can have b20a accord. I'll do the complete tour and take the pics. I'll post 'em all back in this post.

[autox7]

Great, my project car is coming together quicker than I thought it would!!!

[bgaccord]

see if you can measure a engine and trany together? i want to see if i can fit them in my focus wagon. i need H x W

[L3G10N]

what do you mean exactly? to transport it in the trunk?

[fuelpump]

what is exactly the difference between black and brown valve cover??

[L3G10N]

what is exactly the difference between black and brown valve cover??

gold top 86-87
black top 88-89

[bgaccord]

my fosuc is the station wagon i just want to know if i can fit it in the hatch with out leaving the hatch open.

[L3G10N]

yeah you can. the engine are not so big. worst case, just remove the intake/exaust.

[bgaccord]

great got to get my map out. how far from montreal is it? might take the kids along and go to the bio dome.

[L3G10N]

maybe 15-20min from the biodome

[NXRacer]

my fosuc is the station wagon i just want to know if i can fit it in the hatch with out leaving the hatch open.
im sure it would fit in the rear end of a station wagon. Andrew (Kicker_solo )delivered a motor to me and he stuck it in the cab of a civic.......It was an a20, but the b20 isnt much (if at all) bigger then an a20. You should have no problem.

[bgaccord]

excellent i will make i trip out of it. anything else good for kids 3-6 around there?

[L3G10N]

maybe Imax, really don'T know

[fuelpump]

maybe you can try the labyrinthe, I don't know if it's still open at this time of the year but try it. they might like it

[bgaccord]

Ok looks like i am going up next weekend to get it. Did anybody work out a swapable axle or should i try and find jdm accord axles.
I am not worried about ecu since i am going to go with dual weber side drafts my only worry is getting the power to the ground ( axles )

thanks guys.

[NXRacer]

how much reading have you done here about the b20 swap? Its been said which axle works for it.........i spent about 3 days at work reading all about the b20 swap...i then scrapped the plan to get a b20 for a turbo on the a20...much better plan for what i want.

[L3G10N]

Ok looks like i am going up next weekend to get it. Did anybody work out a swapable axle or should i try and find jdm accord axles.
I am not worried about ecu since i am going to go with dual weber side drafts my only worry is getting the power to the ground ( axles )

thanks guys.

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