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Kevin
11-10-2003, 08:36 AM
Ok, If you wana make your car go fast-SPRAY IT!!! I have 245,000 miles on my car and have been spraying for the past two weeks!! If you dont tune it right you will blow hurt your moter!! If you bump the rev limiter while spraying you can fuck your moter!! I have a NX wet kit with a 50 shot and its doing nothing but haul ass!! I had to retard my timing and bump my plug gap to .40 from .50!!! Im running again on wed and it will go 15.4 or better!! Dont be afraid :super: :flip:

k-roy
11-10-2003, 09:01 AM
Thats funny. A 15.4 with juice. I have so many friends who would get a kick out of that one. Oh yea, say bye bye to your motor. It will not last much longer.

Dustin Imports
11-10-2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Kevin
Ok, If you wana make your car go fast-SPRAY IT!!! I have 245,000 miles on my car and have been spraying for the past two weeks!! If you dont tune it right you will blow hurt your moter!! If you bump the rev limiter while spraying you can fuck your moter!! I have a NX wet kit with a 50 shot and its doing nothing but haul ass!! I had to retard my timing and bump my plug gap to .40 from .50!!! Im running again on wed and it will go 15.4 or better!! Dont be afraid :super: :flip:

what track?:stick: :smokin:

NXRacer
11-10-2003, 09:11 AM
Let me be the first to congratulate you on your purchase! :D
Here's more proof that a wet n2o kit will be fine on just about any motor. (esp NX) This is also a testament to the strength of our motors. I'm gonna get a full blown kit for my car if/when it gets running again.

PortugalFocus
11-10-2003, 10:06 AM
do you see those speed blurs when you hit nitro? and do you get those flames to come out the tail pipe too? Thats wicked sweet......

15.4 with juice? right.......

POS carb
11-10-2003, 11:52 AM
a20 on laughing gas, sweet. I plan on juicing the hell out of my motor whenever the time comes around to replace it... 150 shot??
:)

bobafett
11-10-2003, 12:38 PM
why is 15.4 hard to believe with juice. i think its believable. however sad that we need n20 to hit mid 15's lol.. but thats not our fault. :D

NXRacer
11-10-2003, 12:41 PM
15.4's on n2o is totally believeable.

A friend of mine is crazy smart when it comes to hondas. He put 120shot of N.O.S. on a new civic SI with ONLY intake and exhaust and he got it into the low 13's just by tuning the car for a day.......

AccordEpicenter
11-10-2003, 04:33 PM
damn if you have good driving and a 75 or 100 shot youll be in 14s

Elijah
11-10-2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by kroy
Thats funny. A 15.4 with juice. I have so many friends who would get a kick out of that one. Oh yea, say bye bye to your motor. It will not last much longer.

I don't think u have done to much research on wet systyms or u would not say that I run 75 wet NX I have gone through alot of bottles and no proplems yet.In stead of saying bye bye to his motor he will be saying it to you when ur seeing his tails.:burn:

bboipinoy112
11-10-2003, 05:04 PM
if your racing some one .. and you spray on em' .. can they hear the evidence of n2o ? ? ?

Elijah
11-10-2003, 05:06 PM
No They will not here it.

k-roy
11-10-2003, 05:47 PM
ahh where is the fishstick when you need it?

Elijah
11-10-2003, 05:53 PM
He is only running a 50 shot.

Justin86
11-10-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by bobafett
why is 15.4 hard to believe with juice. i think its believable. however sad that we need n20 to hit mid 15's lol.. but thats not our fault. :D
My car is capable of hitting 15's driving wise I suck ass and my reaction times are slow but that is the only thing keeping me out. Me and Matt marked off some 1/4 miles and run them to get an estimate speed. I get going about 88-90mph everytime. Look at Kevin's times 16.2@84mph.

pip
11-10-2003, 07:36 PM
easy killer, trying to tear this guy apart here
we're talking about an 87 accord not a ferrari
his engine has 246,000 miles......thats miles man. thats frigen good if hes running 15.4's, i wish my car ran 15.4
thats sweet man our engines are strong IMO if it can handle that with that much mileage.
even if the engine does go its not like its an expensive motor to replace anyways

zero.counter
11-10-2003, 07:40 PM
He has some good compression with low blow-by for those numbers on his aging engine. Good job bro! Be careful though.

pip
11-10-2003, 07:44 PM
yeah man thats good keep going

i want n20 now...

Justin86
11-10-2003, 11:37 PM
Well the man for the hook up is NXRacer. Caleb I still want to buy a kit from you just need to save to money up again! :)

bboipinoy112
11-10-2003, 11:58 PM
and how much for this .. whatchamacallit .. wet stuff ?

Justin86
11-11-2003, 12:30 AM
A 10lb bottle is around $560, then extras, bottle oponer and bottle heater with little stuff is about $300 I think.

Dustin Imports
11-11-2003, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by Justin86
A 10lb bottle is around $560, then extras, bottle oponer and bottle heater with little stuff is about $300 I think.

mmmm gold plated bottle

Sabz5150
11-11-2003, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by Dustin Imports
mmmm gold plated bottle

WOW! Liquid Schwartz!!!

Dibbs
11-11-2003, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Sabz5150
WOW! Liquid Schwartz!!!

:lol

I love that movie.

paulp032684
11-11-2003, 09:22 AM
lmfo ok i dont liek not belive the time but if a 99 s-10 xtreme wit full exhaust, cold air intake, mass airflow sensor and a hyper tech upgrade can only fun 15.5 wit a 50 shot nos i dont believe at all and also nos cant be heard but when u suddenly leave the person or gain speed suddenly th
they will know

i have not only owned my 89 accord

i had a 99 z24, turbo charged full engine enhancements( boring new cam bottom end pistons ect...) and a 150 shot wit intercooler and so on and so forth max speed 178 and quarter was 10.025 on street tires ( thats my best ) avg time was 10.54

on drags i ran a 9.4 best time avg was like i think a 9.6 not sure though but i know it was a 9 on my drags so i know deffinetly if this accord wit that many miles unless the engine has been fucked wit is not runnin a 15.4 lmfao name his other upgrades to make it believable

NXRacer
11-11-2003, 09:28 AM
its more believeable that he ran a 15.4 as opposed to you having a turbo charged z24 running 9's :rolleyes:

paulp032684
11-11-2003, 09:43 AM
well first off drag radials drop ur time by a sec or more if u know wtf ur doing and wit a 80g cavalier not counting the cost of car and system i ran 10's ez wit drags and the weather here(warm, south texas) anyways this dudes time is way off unless this guy has some mods cuz a stock efi accord has 120 hp and if its a standard a lil more whp than a auto man use common sense i never got my cav dynoyed but wit a gtech it said 457 almost every time but as far off as those are it had more than that i just said it had 460 whp ( not a tiny turbo and shit) if u know cars this is possible on 110 octane if u say no lmfao u dont know shit and should be banned from tellin peeps info period

and y do i have a 89 accord now? cuz i fucked up got caught sellin drugs lost my appt and car and was in jail for a year and a half so i bought the cheapest car a could.. now i love it



so think w/e u want but a z24 will smoke ne honda ever cept a hyped up s2000 those are tight


( not counting japan honda cuz acura dont exist in japan )

pip
11-11-2003, 10:13 AM
why would u spend 80g's on a cavalier?

k-roy
11-11-2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by pip
why would u spend 80g's on a cavalier?

Why would he be drunk this early is a better question.

Justin86
11-11-2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by paulp032684
lmfo ok i dont liek not belive the time but if a 99 s-10 xtreme wit full exhaust, cold air intake, mass airflow sensor and a hyper tech upgrade can only fun 15.5 wit a 50 shot nos i dont believe at all and also nos cant be heard but when u suddenly leave the person or gain speed suddenly th
they will know

i have not only owned my 89 accord

i had a 99 z24, turbo charged full engine enhancements( boring new cam bottom end pistons ect...) and a 150 shot wit intercooler and so on and so forth max speed 178 and quarter was 10.025 on street tires ( thats my best ) avg time was 10.54

on drags i ran a 9.4 best time avg was like i think a 9.6 not sure though but i know it was a 9 on my drags so i know deffinetly if this accord wit that many miles unless the engine has been fucked wit is not runnin a 15.4 lmfao name his other upgrades to make it believable
Well a Extreme is not really to fast I have beaten a few before.I beat one and its reaction time was a 1/2 better then mine.

paulp032684
11-11-2003, 10:57 AM
ok well i checked it b4 i leave the house

and i am drunk cuz i work night shift smart ass

9pm till 7 pm so its my night time lmfao i go t beed at 1 or 2pm most the time so yeah extremes arent that fast i know but my friend never got passed i think at most a 15.4 wit all that shit he has wit a auto so w/e

paulp032684
11-11-2003, 11:03 AM
9 pm till 7am fucking typos lol

3rd GEN
11-11-2003, 11:08 AM
mmmmmmmmm so givin a little spray won't do harm eh.. mmmmmmmmm
now you got me goin...i wanna juice my baby b4 my swap..
might aswell..:)

paulp032684
11-11-2003, 11:13 AM
nope for 4 cylinders a 50 shot wont do shit for v-6 75 wont do shit and for v-8 a 100 shot wont do anything but any higher than that for the engine size could to dmg but a 50 shot wet on a 4 cyl wont do anything at all no dmg unless u fuck up shit u can run it from the beginnin of the run till the end and not hurt shit long as ur engine in decent shape

bboipinoy112
11-11-2003, 12:30 PM
extremes get killed by my cousins 240z .. and my cousin keeps up with a 02'celicaGT, den takes him after 3rd gear .. and the celicaGT and 240z gets killed by my homies 00'prelude .. so i dont think xtremes are fast .. bye.

Justin86
11-11-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by paulp032684
nope for 4 cylinders a 50 shot wont do shit for v-6 75 wont do shit and for v-8 a 100 shot wont do anything but any higher than that for the engine size could to dmg but a 50 shot wet on a 4 cyl wont do anything at all no dmg unless u fuck up shit u can run it from the beginnin of the run till the end and not hurt shit long as ur engine in decent shape
Dude you did have too much to drink. I read this twice and still don't understand it, but hey as long as you are having fun it is cool! :)

k-roy
11-11-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by paulp032684
nope for 4 cylinders a 50 shot wont do shit for v-6 75 wont do shit and for v-8 a 100 shot wont do anything but any higher than that for the engine size could to dmg but a 50 shot wet on a 4 cyl wont do anything at all no dmg unless u fuck up shit u can run it from the beginnin of the run till the end and not hurt shit long as ur engine in decent shape

Lay off the crackpipe and go back to school. Damn.

Dustin Imports
11-11-2003, 01:43 PM
depends on engine, and tuner, palin and simple.

always going to run risks, just be safe w/ the shit.

k-roy
11-11-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Dustin Imports
depends on engine, and tuner, palin and simple.

always going to run risks, just be safe w/ the shit.

True. Remember that adding nitrous will just amplify anything that is wrong with the engine. So if you timing is as little as a few degrees off... POW. I would not trust it on a normal basis. But I thought it was illegal on the street anyways.

AccordEpicenter
11-11-2003, 03:53 PM
i dunno, does anybody know for sure?

zero.counter
11-11-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by AccordEpicenter
i dunno, does anybody know for sure?
Know what?

Justin86
11-11-2003, 03:58 PM
As far as I know it is legit for the streets. Some states might have some regulations.

NXRacer
11-11-2003, 04:13 PM
i know in cali its illegal (like most customizations) but most places dont care. pretty much any track won't let you run n2o unless you have a blowdown tube and all the safety equipment installed.

As for running different shots, it all comes down to timing. You can run HUGE shots through motors as long as its tuned properly. If the system is going on a BONE STOCK 4cyl engine with no tuning, then i'd only run a 75 shot (wet) MAX. If you're running a dry system dont go higher then like a 50 shot.

PortugalFocus
11-11-2003, 04:28 PM
You cant run it on the street in PA..........

Justin86
11-11-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by NXRacer
i know in cali its illegal (like most customizations) but most places dont care. pretty much any track won't let you run n2o unless you have a blowdown tube and all the safety equipment installed.

As for running different shots, it all comes down to timing. You can run HUGE shots through motors as long as its tuned properly. If the system is going on a BONE STOCK 4cyl engine with no tuning, then i'd only run a 75 shot (wet) MAX. If you're running a dry system dont go higher then like a 50 shot.
Does the blow down tube and the other safety stuff come with the kit or get it seperate? When I get the money again to buy a kit I know that most of half of its use will be on the track.

johndej
11-11-2003, 06:52 PM
"As for running different shots, it all comes down to timing. You can run HUGE shots through motors as long as its tuned properly. If the system is going on a BONE STOCK 4cyl engine with no tuning, then i'd only run a 75 shot (wet) MAX. If you're running a dry system dont go higher then like a 50 shot."
~ thats exactly it, if you've got your shit together and done right, you can run a 50 shot on an accord w/ 250K and prob fun 15s easy.

guaynabo89
11-11-2003, 07:45 PM
Dooooooood

I got naaawwwwzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Two bottles, the big ones!:lol

Dustin Imports
11-12-2003, 06:34 AM
I heard diferent states allow only certain size bottles...nothing over a 10lb I think.

k-roy
11-12-2003, 06:44 AM
I know its illegal as fuck to have a bottle hooked up on the street in Ohio. You can get your car impounded for that.

I did a search for south carolina law and the only thing refering to Nitrous was its use in the medical field. So I guess its all good down here.

paulp032684
11-12-2003, 06:59 AM
ok what i was saying about the engine size is : 4cyl=50 wet shot and will not cause a prob 6cyl=75 shot with no probs 8cyl=100 shot with out ne probs. this comes from a nos kit (not sure of the brand) and it states that those shots will not hurt your engine. In texas it is illegal to have the bottle connected on the street. but if u dont get pulled over how will they know (or hide ur bottles :) ) and u might beat xtremes ( 4cyl) but when u have the v-6 with no governor then u have a race.

my friends xtreme smokes every xtreme he has come across (99 v-6 xtreme single cab wit an auto) no xtreme has beaten his. but he hasnt raced a turbo'd or supercharged one yet either


but as long as your concerned about spraying man a 50 shot will do no harm. but if a selinoid (excuse the spelling) goes out ur intake manifold will blow so just make sure to close your nos bottle when not in use.

but ur safe with a 50 shot unless your engine is already smoking and needs work

Kevin
11-12-2003, 07:07 AM
I havent run it yet on the track-Orlando Speed World-I have raced cars that have gone 15.4 and pulled like nothing!!! The a20 is a strong moter-If you tune it and add the right amount of n2o to the amount of fuel and timeing and you dont hit rev limit!!! I think it might go 14.9

Kevin
11-12-2003, 07:11 AM
Well now im haveing problems keeping the Po Po away because of my exhaust-so fuck them!!! If anyone In florida wants to meet me im going to Orlando Speedworld off of 50 in orlando!!! Im driveing my slammed blue hatch!!!

Kevin
11-12-2003, 07:28 AM
I also love hearing about a stupid extreme s10-they are heavier and slower to begein with!!! With intake and exhaust they go like 16.5 or so!!! Im already running 16.2-Think about it this way-a 50 shot is adding 50 hp to the wheels-an a20 stock has around 100 at the wheels-now its has 150 and thats only 5 hp less stock than my buddys civic Si has and is running 14.9-

NXRacer
11-12-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Kevin
I think it might go 14.9

now i think that stretching it a bit

Dustin Imports
11-12-2003, 09:26 AM
Im in orlando
you goin fri or sat?

get some pics

Justin86
11-12-2003, 10:18 AM
A civic running 14.9 I would love to seen that. Well I can't wait untill I can hit 14's. :D

bobafett
11-12-2003, 12:02 PM
heh justin ive seen a civic run 10.11 :) why is a high 14second civic so amazing lol?

Dustin Imports
11-12-2003, 12:06 PM
me to

plenty of fast imports..fwd 4cyl..

people need to seperate ricers/ from enthusiasts.

here at OSW in Orlandoa hatch out ran a modified Viper GTS w/ slicks.

my buddys DAD has a Si that runs 13 flat all motor, and hes building a turbo si same year .

With enough $$$ anything is possible.

and this is coming from a domestic guy

Justin86
11-12-2003, 12:46 PM
well he was talking about a STOCK Civic running a 14.9

Dustin Imports
11-12-2003, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Justin86
well he was talking about a STOCK Civic running a 14.9

maybe if its stripped..180hp right? Im sure its possible w/ tires.

everytime i go to the track Im amazed..

those damn srt4s and imprezas...damn

Justin86
11-12-2003, 01:20 PM
Yea maybestripped down to a bear metal and have as much steel panels reolaced with aluminum. 180 might be a little high more around 160-170 at the flywheel, even though those cars have no torque.

cspeed
11-13-2003, 08:19 AM
i love hearing everyone say that 150 shot is feasible with the right amount of tuning. but you all are forgetting one important thing. the engine can only handle a certain amount of horsepower before the internals need to be replaced. speaking of which, has anyone ever done these tests to find out what the hp limits of the a20 is?

brendan

Justin86
11-13-2003, 08:45 AM
Well with the typical 4 cylinder the limit is about 75 with the correct tunning. After that it would be a good idea to build up the internals. You probably could push a 100 shot but I wouldn't.

bobafett
11-13-2003, 09:29 AM
sean is pushing over 200whp and around 300lbs and the stock internals are doing fine. this is with excellent engine management of course. thats more than doubling power and torque output! :D

Justin86
11-13-2003, 10:56 AM
Yea but that incolves a lot of custom wiring and ECU, then tuning. If you had Sean's ECU and upgrades, ignition, with some tuning you could push +100 shot of n2o.

hoho1217
11-13-2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by PortugalFocus
do you see those speed blurs when you hit nitro? and do you get those flames to come out the tail pipe too? Thats wicked sweet......

15.4 with juice? right.......


:tongue: :tongue: sounds like you've been playing too much NFS: Underground..... lol

Justin86
11-13-2003, 07:07 PM
Ha underground! I have a bunch of underground stickers I need to find a place for.

Neuspeed87lx
11-13-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Dustin Imports

people need to seperate ricers/ from enthusiasts.




thats a perfect quote........

Justin86
11-13-2003, 10:16 PM
Yea that is true. It is all of the gay ricers (2F&2F) that put out a bad name for all people that drive imports.

Kevin
11-14-2003, 08:10 AM
The civic is not stock-It has CAI and header!!! I meant with the 50 shot i should put down about has much as the civic-He dyoned at 148 at the wheels!!! I also ran a 15.8 @ 90-it sux bc of my 2.5 60' and bc i cant speed shift due to my clutch slipping!!!

Justin86
11-14-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Kevin
The civic is not stock-It has CAI and header!!! I meant with the 50 shot i should put down about has much as the civic-He dyoned at 148 at the wheels!!! I also ran a 15.8 @ 90-it sux bc of my 2.5 60' and bc i cant speed shift due to my clutch slipping!!!
Thanks for clarafying

Kevin
11-17-2003, 07:54 AM
No-problem!!! After i get a clutch it will go low 15s sum where!!! I also raced a 1.8t with an intake and chip and he only pulled like 2 car lenghths-he runs like 14.5 and anouther SI thats running 14.6 and he pulled like 2 car lenghs-Never underestimate a old car with new parts!!!!

NXRacer
11-17-2003, 08:49 AM
Dude!!! Do you like exclamation marks or something!!!! i've never seen such a misuse of !! before!!!

!!!!

j/p

Justin86
11-17-2003, 12:41 PM
Well he is using them so much cause he is so excited that his old car is fast now. :)

Kevin
11-19-2003, 08:30 AM
You know what-You guys are losers if your bitching about my exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justin86
11-19-2003, 10:40 AM
Dude no one really cares. People are just trying to give you a hard time.

NXRacer
11-19-2003, 10:41 AM
stop using so many exclamation marks and nobody will give you a hard time!! :D

Justin86
11-20-2003, 11:29 AM
:stupid:
So back to the topic what is the biggest shot we can do with out getting SEAN's ECU. I thing 100shot with the correct tuning and upgraded ignition and spark.

NXRacer
11-20-2003, 11:36 AM
you dont need seans ECU to run N2O anyway. If you can hook up with a good shop, they can get a pretty high shot running. PacWest here in salem and a really good tech who could tune your car right for 100 shot, but you'd have to pay for his time. With a new motor, you could run 75 without any adjustments and if you like to live dangerously, jump up to 100 and see what happens... :D I'd suggest getting at least an FPR if you go that high though just to compensate.

Dustin Imports
11-20-2003, 11:38 AM
I need Nawz lots of Nawz...

a Big ONE..

no make that two.

Justin86
11-20-2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by NXRacer
you dont need seans ECU to run N2O anyway. If you can hook up with a good shop, they can get a pretty high shot running. PacWest here in salem and a really good tech who could tune your car right for 100 shot, but you'd have to pay for his time. With a new motor, you could run 75 without any adjustments and if you like to live dangerously, jump up to 100 and see what happens... :D I'd suggest getting at least an FPR if you go that high though just to compensate.
Well at least a spin off of SEAN's ECU, bit I was thinking that 100+ shot you need to start looking into serious ECU work on top of the basics fuel, ignition, and tuning. I would be good with a 75 shot. :D

NXRacer
11-20-2003, 12:12 PM
You dont have to play with the ECU at all. Like i said before, my friend tuned a basically stock SI shooting 120shot of N.O.S. without any problems. It was all timing adjustments. He didnt touch the ECU. All in an afternoon.

it just takes the knowledge and time to get it right.

Justin86
11-20-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by NXRacer
You dont have to play with the ECU at all. Like i said before, my friend tuned a basically stock SI shooting 120shot of N.O.S. without any problems. It was all timing adjustments. He didnt touch the ECU. All in an afternoon.

it just takes the knowledge and time to get it right.

I was thinking that the air/fuel ratio would need to be adjusted to handle big shots. I know you can adjust the fuel with a FPR but it doesn't seem right with out messing with the ECU so that it is aware of a big shot of n2o.

NXRacer
11-20-2003, 02:33 PM
its all about the timing. The stock MAP sensor will be able to compensate for the increased A/F intake. The A20 MAP sensor can handle stock up to to bars of boost so you can boost up to 9 lbs with the stock ECU. All you have to worry about is timing which can be done through an MSD ingition system. With the right person working on your car, you don't really need Seans ECU. His will work, but its not super necessary.

PortugalFocus
11-20-2003, 04:34 PM
pssssssssssssttt!!!!!

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Justin86
11-20-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by NXRacer
its all about the timing. The stock MAP sensor will be able to compensate for the increased A/F intake. The A20 MAP sensor can handle stock up to to bars of boost so you can boost up to 9 lbs with the stock ECU. All you have to worry about is timing which can be done through an MSD ingition system. With the right person working on your car, you don't really need Seans ECU. His will work, but its not super necessary.
Ok so the map sensor can handle it, then the question is how does everyone save the money and tune it there self.
Needed stuff
MSD igniton or equilvent
coil MSD or ACCEL
bigger wires
Spark plugs? I heard it helps :confused:
Ignition/timing (tuning)= adj cam gear
n2o big bottle
what else???

Kevin
11-21-2003, 08:03 AM
Its all good-If you are running that much N2o than you better make sure your drivetrain can handle it!!! My clutch grips all day long-but when i race at the track and alota times it cant grip. Im only running a 50 shot. I have bigger injectors that help alot too. That list you dont HAFTA have any of that!! It will help-The stuff you hafta do to spray wood be retard the timing a few degress, put colder plugs, and put the gap closed a bit!!! If you have a wet kit it is alot safer. Many people have run 75 shot on stock moter with intake and exhaust dry kit and still not have a problem-Good luck to all you fellow nitrous users :)

NXRacer
11-21-2003, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Justin86
Ok so the map sensor can handle it, then the question is how does everyone save the money and tune it there self.
Needed stuff
MSD igniton or equilvent
coil MSD or ACCEL
bigger wires
Spark plugs? I heard it helps :confused:
Ignition/timing (tuning)= adj cam gear
n2o big bottle
what else???

the size of the bottle doesnt matter.

Thats about it, but when you get all that stuff you need to find somebody who is able to tune your whole car correctly to get it to run w/out blowing up.

Justin86
11-21-2003, 10:19 AM
Well I just threw in the the "big bottle" cause it sounds cool! :)
Well everything there can be done your self you just need to know how to but the correct cam advance or retard. It probably would cost a good amount to have it done professionaly just because of the nature of what you are doing eventhough if is pretty simple. But I can understand having it done cause of the precission part of it.

NXRacer
11-21-2003, 10:35 AM
if you want i can hook you up with my buddy who's a whiz and tuning. it wont cost too much but you'll have to come up here. I have a friend who knows a bunch of guys in roseburg who might be able to help you out too, but i dont know how good they are at tuning cars and stuff. You best bet that i know of is my guy up here.

Justin86
11-21-2003, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by NXRacer
if you want i can hook you up with my buddy who's a whiz and tuning. it wont cost too much but you'll have to come up here. I have a friend who knows a bunch of guys in roseburg who might be able to help you out too, but i dont know how good they are at tuning cars and stuff. You best bet that i know of is my guy up here.
Well that is something I might want to look into, thanks :)

RedneckRicer
11-27-2003, 01:25 AM
The stuff you hafta do to spray wood be retard the timing a few degress

i've heard of nitrous spray, propane spray for a diesel, hell, even water injection on some cars, but wood?? this is just getting rediculous!

Justin86
11-27-2003, 04:17 PM
I think he ment to say "would" not "wood". :lol:

Kevin
11-28-2003, 10:20 AM
yes i did!!

HaccordR89
11-29-2003, 05:50 PM
its not the size of the bottle it's the jet, and the only thing i think is actually necessary is colder smaller gapped plugs, the cars i helped install nirtrous we used ngk 1 degree colder, that was on a 96 integ GSR and a eclipse spider

original2k
11-30-2003, 08:43 AM
sorry to break the flow of this thread, but the first 2 pages make this the greatest thread EVER hahaha, but yeah n20 sounds pretty sweet, too bad i'm too skurred to do it myself, but maybe someday after i'm done with all the upgrades i want

Justin86
11-30-2003, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by original2k
sorry to break the flow of this thread, but the first 2 pages make this the greatest thread EVER hahaha, but yeah n20 sounds pretty sweet, too bad i'm too skurred to do it myself, but maybe someday after i'm done with all the upgrades i want
:lol :lol :lol
Wait I'm too wasted to thing straight and drive but I can still post!
:lol :lol :lol

Kevin
11-30-2003, 08:07 PM
My buddys sohc civic with some light port and polish work went 14.9 at bradington this weekend and i raced him and stuck side by side till we stoped about 110!!! With a good clutch and 60' i have no doubt that it will go 14.9!! IWith a shitty run i still pulled 90mph!!! :) dont be afraid-SPRAY THE PISS OUT OF IT!!!!:)

Justin86
11-30-2003, 10:43 PM
That is pretty damn good for a 50shot. I just need to save up the money for my n2o. :D

Kevin
12-01-2003, 07:44 AM
Ya its well worth the money!! The NX wet kit is what you should kit! Its great. Some dont understand how much 50hp at wheels will do to a car!! :)

k-roy
12-01-2003, 08:31 AM
I certinly understand what 50 HP does, thats the gain on my last cam swap. Not on the 3G of course.

Justin86
12-01-2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Kevin
Ya its well worth the money!! The NX wet kit is what you should kit! Its great. Some dont understand how much 50hp at wheels will do to a car!! :)
Yea and I'm going to be crazy and go with a 75 or 100shot. N2o on the brain. :)

Kevin
12-01-2003, 10:51 AM
Hell ya!! If you get a wet kit and you jet enuff fuel you can hold a 75 at least easily. Just make sure retard the timesing about 3or4 degress when running 75 or 100!!

Justin86
12-01-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by Kevin
Hell ya!! If you get a wet kit and you jet enuff fuel you can hold a 75 at least easily. Just make sure retard the timesing about 3or4 degress when running 75 or 100!!
Yea I was talking to NXRacer about it and he is going to hook me up with a kit and he knows a good place where I can get my engine tuned to perfection. :)

MattsAccord
12-01-2003, 11:01 AM
Gonna cheat and run some juice Justin. Haha I would to if I could trust my car to hold up.

Justin86
12-01-2003, 11:08 AM
Yea my engine is pretty fresh I just hope that my clutch will hold that much juice.

On a side note Kroy you are a post whore. :sadwave:

k-roy
12-01-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Justin86
On a side note Kroy you are a post whore. :sadwave:

Oh god lets not start that again. All I need is a little push.

But anyways I have actually been thinking about N20 lately. I came across an old NOS 4bbl fogger setup for $50 with the bottle. I now have to find a comlete beater to blow up. If only I could get that $100 rust bucket from Michigan..

Justin86
12-02-2003, 06:48 PM
That would be a good car or just start collecting extra parts and a engine & tranny like I have been doing.

K-MOD
12-04-2003, 08:21 PM
http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27175

K-MOD
12-04-2003, 08:37 PM
I'm running a 100 shot on a stock bottom end. It all comes down to proper tuning, if you don't have engine management you should definetly try to jet it a little rich and pull out timing 75shot-2degrees, 100shot-4degrees. I recommend a four fogger wet system, this way there aren't any distribution problems. Mine is a custom NOS sytstem I built myself. Take a look at the attached pics. A high flow pump is also a good idea. The two things that kill a n20 motor is lack of fuel or too much timing. Heat is also no good, try to keep the under hood, and coolant temps down. You should use a spark plug that is a least one heat range colder. I use NGK-BCPR7ES, two heat ranges colder than stock. If you look at that plug you will see that the ground strap is much shorter. A shorter ground strap absorbs less heat. To much heat can lead to detonation. An adjustable fuel press reg. is also a good idea, w/o an engine management system raising the fuel press. is the only way to add fuel.
http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27175

Justin86
12-05-2003, 06:38 PM
Yea it will be best to run fogger system and you can get them, but I'm not sure if they fit the 3G, I will check.

dhcarss
12-06-2003, 02:50 AM
14.9 is possible, I ran a 14.94 on a 65 dry shot on a very hot day, that is with street tires and I think 2.3 60 fts, Im now running the 75 dry, have been for a while.. I did just have trouble with the rings, but the motor has over 200k on it. So Im not disapointed. I already have another motor and Im going to start on it this weekend.. Love the N20!:smokin:

Justin86
12-07-2003, 07:07 PM
14.9 is pretty good, hopefully I will hit low 14's if my clutch holds.

Kevin
12-07-2003, 07:48 PM
ya-the clutch is one of the most abused by N2O

Justin86
12-07-2003, 08:08 PM
Well I have a ACT clutch/preasure plate but it is rated at 200lb/tq and with the 100shot on top of what I have allready got I will easy be at the point. If I have to get an upgraded clutch I will but I will get my money out of this one first.

Kevin
12-07-2003, 08:10 PM
cool-That shoould be fine than-Let me know what it runs.

Justin86
12-07-2003, 08:49 PM
Well it won't be for a while. I need to get my tranny going and I will need to get another one and then there is X-mas shopping, and my n2o will cost me about $1,000 for everything.

Kevin
12-08-2003, 09:23 PM
I ordered the bigger jets for the 75 shot today!! They should be in by tuesday afternoon!! Im guna try and run at the track next wed. I want to see it run mid 14s-I know set up it can do it-but that clutch is guna take a shit!!!

K-MOD
12-09-2003, 04:51 AM
You're luck as hell, you live in FL you get race all year long. The tracks up here are mostly closed for the winter. When your clutch goes let me know I have a great set up, that will hold that 75 shot. It,s held over a 100 shot in my white car. ACT/Clutcnet combo($370). six puck sprung w/HD pressure plate. If you buy one of our conversion pressure plates($380) you can use anything that will fit a B-Series. That means you could step up to an Xtreme pressure plate for more holding power.
http://www.clutchnet.com/make/C9D.gif

Justin86
12-09-2003, 12:24 PM
I have the ACT heavy duty preasure plat but the stock clutch. I will have to get the upgraded clutch to run a 100shot.

Kevin
12-10-2003, 07:43 AM
ya-the act kicks ass

Justin86
12-10-2003, 10:05 AM
Yea I love mine. :)

Elijah
12-10-2003, 09:36 PM
I only have a centerforce and I run a 75 wet all day long with no proplems.I have the MSD-SCI,8.5mm manecore wires,msd coil,ngk plugs,cai and no cat and vibrant mufller.I have a header just not on yet.

Justin86
12-10-2003, 10:21 PM
what is it rated at. Mine is 200 lbs/tq I will nedd something that will hold a 100 shot.

Elijah
12-10-2003, 11:02 PM
I do not know what it's rated at.