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Mykii
02-01-2004, 07:37 PM
Hey guys.. i've done a seach and couldn't find anything related to my problem... well, my car won't idle anymore.. like one day it was fine, the next, pretty much dead... the car starts and if i ride the gas then i can keep the car alive... my car is manual, so whenever i push in the clutch the car dies if i don't shift fast enough... i really need help, if you guys have any ideas post... anything will help at this point

Mykii!

k-roy
02-01-2004, 07:38 PM
Do you have a Carb (DX,LX) or PGMFI (LXi, SEi)?

Mykii
02-01-2004, 08:04 PM
its a carb dx... 88

nswst8
02-01-2004, 08:10 PM
This is the first thing that I would check, personally I would replace all vaccum line right off.
Then I'd look to the Carb itself.
I don't have a carb, but there are alot of guys here who do.
Hope this helps some.
NSWST8 :cheers:

1988starter
02-01-2004, 08:33 PM
its a carb dx... 88


Get some carb spray cleaner and give it a good spray along with checking for broken vacume lines

Mykii
02-01-2004, 08:41 PM
i checked all that earlier, vacuum lines and all, but how can i tell exactly which one it is and stuff... none of the lines are cracked... i forgot to mention that one of the circle things (i guess one of those things that look like an old school ufo thing) was going bad (or so i was told) the carb itself leaks gas out of one point (i don't know the name).... so do you think that whatever this circle thing is might be the actuall problem?

nswst8
02-01-2004, 08:42 PM
The base gasket to your carb could be gone.
I do believe your sucking air.
NSWST8 :cheers:

Mykii
02-01-2004, 08:48 PM
sucking air?... hmmm how much is the gasket and where can i get one? also, well, it runs fine besides the fact that it doesn't idle... i still have some pretty good power when it runs...

k-roy
02-02-2004, 05:45 AM
Its called the carb base to manifold gasket. Its about 5 bucks at any parts store.

Mykii
02-02-2004, 09:52 AM
so do you really think thats it? also, is it hard to replace? i mean is it hard to take off the carb?

KaMiKaZeE
02-02-2004, 11:15 AM
It sounds like you are somewhat new to repairing cars on your own. If that is true, and you need your car running fast, just take it to your local mechanic. he should be able to track down the problem and fix it for you in no time. If it is just the carb gasket then it shouldn't be expensive either. It might not be that though, so rather than have you trying to replace it yourself and ending up spending your money and time and it turning out to be something else anyway, I'd just turn it over to a pro for the afternoon.

Mykii
02-02-2004, 01:05 PM
Yea, i'm pretty much new.. well at least to carbs and all their lines... i think thats the best bet, i found out that i have a bud who is a mechie so i'll probably bring it to him... but i have a feeling that its gonna be expensive.... i'm scared lol.... thanks guys, but if yall still have any more ideas, keep em comin!

Mykii

Michael Cote
02-11-2004, 03:32 PM
Check vacuum line to PCV. It's a thicker vacuum line than the other vacuum line right in front of air cleaner pan above valve cover. It loops up and then down and is short. Pinch with needle nose vise-grips and see if car idles. If so change PCV. A liitle hard to reach but doable. Ask soeone familiar where it is. Honda brand (spring flapper)$20. Aftermarket 9check ball type)$5. Goodluck, Mike

iamvandemon
02-12-2004, 07:59 PM
change all of the vacuume lines that you can. they are cheep and it is easy to do. that will save you a lot of trouble now and in the future.

Mykii
02-22-2004, 02:46 AM
I'm probably going to just replace my carb with a weber... hopefully soon, its really killing me... i gotta hit the brake and the gas at the same time while i slow down in order to keep my car alive... besides that, the car is fine... oh yea... and my gas milage is going down.... 23 mpg on the freeway.... sucks lots... i just really hope that the carb will fix it...

Leviathant
03-02-2004, 02:01 PM
Hmm. I had a problem like this and it was actually my ignition. I cleaned the hell out of my carb, changed my plugs and wires, checked all kinds of things, had my car to the shop three times and it was the stupid, stupid ignition.

Mykii
03-02-2004, 05:53 PM
Hmm. I had a problem like this and it was actually my ignition. I cleaned the hell out of my carb, changed my plugs and wires, checked all kinds of things, had my car to the shop three times and it was the stupid, stupid ignition.

Maybe... how much does that cost?

Leviathant
03-02-2004, 06:49 PM
Well, mine was free, because the guy who sold me the Accord works for the dealership, and offered to hook me up since the last three times he wasn't able to trace the problem correctly. Haing said that, it would have to be less than $50, easy. I think they had to replace or clean out some plastic cylinder.

RustyHo88
03-02-2004, 07:32 PM
Hmm. I had a problem like this and it was actually my ignition. I cleaned the hell out of my carb, changed my plugs and wires, checked all kinds of things, had my car to the shop three times and it was the stupid, stupid ignition.

wait a second... you mean the ignition ignition? or do you mean the ignition coil, or the ignition switch, or the ignitor?

Leviathant
03-02-2004, 07:42 PM
Oh, I guess I should specify that huh. It was just the ignition switch.

POS carb
03-03-2004, 06:45 AM
if it runs fine but just won't idle then it's 1 of 2 things.

if it's rough shutting off then it's 99% sure a vacuum leak, probably a hose.

If it just revs down and shuts off (like with the key) then check the slow mix solenoid on the back of the carb. If the wire gets disconnected/ripped off the carb can't keep the car idling, it's the weirdest crap
(it's a brass cylinder with 1 wire on the rear, about 2 inch tall, there should be 12V at the wire with the key in the "on" position

mikespur
03-03-2004, 09:17 PM
Had the same problem. The idle passage has crud in it, but it is easy to fix. On the rear of the carb, find the idle control solenoid. It is a little brass cylinder held in with a 8mm hex head bolt. Take it out, and blow compressed air into the carb through the hole. You can use carb cleaner, too, but I had to use compressed air. take care not to damage the o ring. No, you will not damage anything in the carb with compressed air. This is a trick given to me about 10 years ago by a mechanic at a Honda dealer in Sheridan WY
Good Luck
Mike

Mykii
03-04-2004, 09:11 AM
hmm... idle passage eh? if you guys had pics, it'd be easier... but.... i'm hopefully getting my weber in the mail tomorrow... YAY weber!!! i just hope that solves the whole problem.... ya know? anyway, i'm still a newbie, need pics or something... i suck... also on the idle mixture screw - which way is what? left is mixing more of what?

RustyHo88
03-04-2004, 12:04 PM
Had the same problem. The idle passage has crud in it, but it is easy to fix. On the rear of the carb, find the idle control solenoid. It is a little brass cylinder held in with a 8mm hex head bolt. Take it out, and blow compressed air into the carb through the hole. You can use carb cleaner, too, but I had to use compressed air. take care not to damage the o ring. No, you will not damage anything in the carb with compressed air. This is a trick given to me about 10 years ago by a mechanic at a Honda dealer in Sheridan WY
Good Luck
Mike

Idle control solenoid? man... if you could take some pics or find a diagram showing where that is on the carb, I would REALLY appreciate it. thanks.

87accordlxph
03-06-2004, 04:46 AM
I have the same problem.
I'm getting a used distributor from Y3G! (Hey man)
I'm pretty certain that the bearings are gone in yours.
Did the rpms fluctuate sometimes?
If they didn't, then check your ignition coil.

-Mike from Sarnia!

Mykii
03-14-2004, 08:01 PM
Alright, well, now i got my weber in... it runs, but also kinda has the same problem... sometimes it idles, sometimes it doesn't... and when it does, it fluctuates.... also my car is burning oil whenever i turn right... it automatically accelerates sometimes... weird.... and it misfires too...

87accordlxph
03-15-2004, 03:06 PM
A ha!

Sounds like your distributor is going. If your idle is now fluctuating, check your ignition timing it should be fluctuating as well.
Eventually your car will no longer idle if you let it go too far without replacing it just like the way mine doesn't idle.

-Mike from P-Town!

A20A1
03-15-2004, 03:27 PM
It's leaking gas form the float adjustment screw????

if the float level is off or the carb is leaking gas then thats one reason your car wont idle.