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Strugglebucket
03-01-2004, 04:19 AM
I am getting ready to do a 5-speed conversion on my 89lxi and I was wondering if I can use my existing black box or if I need to use one from a manual. The only difference I can see between the two is the A/T idle control solenoid (not found in 5-speed box). I will probably be replacing the ECU with one from an 88lxi 5-speed, so would that solenoid just be ignored? Or would it then wind up being left switched in the wrong position? Hmm.
What does the A/T idle control do anyway?

Strugglebucket
03-02-2004, 11:44 PM
....:help:

shepherd79
03-03-2004, 04:34 AM
when i did my 5 speed, i drove with AT box for a while and i didn't like the way it was acting. i chnaged the box and everything is running better now.
just get 5 speed box and 5 speed ECU make sure they are from 88-89 accord for your car.

BITESIZE
03-03-2004, 08:48 AM
Never thought about that, My car has been running fine since the swap, but I'm going to go the salvage yard and yank one out and put it in my car now. :cool2:

88LXi68
03-03-2004, 08:57 AM
I didnt change my black box and my car was fine '88 LXi. I did change ECUs though.

AccordEpicenter
03-03-2004, 09:46 AM
im not sure about the black box but as far as i know manual and at ecus are the same... Im still using my automatic everything since the swap, no probs

AZmike
03-03-2004, 11:28 AM
I looked into the black box stuff a little when my EGR was acting up. The only difference is that the automatic has an extra solenoid. I'd try the auto box first unless you can get the 5-speed one for next to nothing.

Strugglebucket
03-03-2004, 03:41 PM
Thanks guys. Yeah, I'll probably look in to how much they cost.

mike king
03-03-2004, 09:38 PM
Could you guys give a how to for removing AT,I need to put in a new converter.



when i did my 5 speed, i drove with AT box for a while and i didn't like the way it was acting. i chnaged the box and everything is running better now.
just get 5 speed box and 5 speed ECU make sure they are from 88-89 accord for your car.

Elijah
03-04-2004, 03:57 PM
I never changed the box or ecu on either of my 5 speed swaps and no problems yet