Remember the a20a who did 11.27sec 1/4miles????

[L3G10N]

I don't know if you remember hem.... last year i think, when i was asking if some of you wanted to buy DCOM and custom manifold for the a20a? I told you guys, that the guy who do my manifold was runing a a20a with dual weber, nos in his 84 Lude. I told you too that he was running low 11. So, here's a little video that will show you the guy who do the custom manifold for the dual weber and his car.

Please, right-click and click on save as...., don't stream the video please.

http://www.decalgrafix.com/dragvideo.wmv

Enjoy!!! :bow:

[k-roy]

Goddamn goddamn goddamn goddamn goddamn thats one fast as hell A20.
Mad props to that guy. Is he a member yet? If not he should be.

[Neuspeed87lx]

im downloading it now..... 56k..... is it johnny in his hatch ? he was running in the low 11's i remember ....

[L3G10N]

Nah his name is Jason Budd. And he have a 84 Lude and not an accord hatch.

Kroy, nah, he's not part of this bord. He don't even browse the net.

[adams86lxi]

OMG, thats so awesome!!! :bow: :bow: :cool:

[catalin]

That's cool and all, but what's with the wheelie bars? I don't think front wheel drive cars pull wheelies.

[A20A1]

The wheelie bar acts in reverse, lifting the rear to transfer more weight to the front durring take off and shifting.

[blazin3gen]

god thats tight my god!

[catalin]

The wheelie bar acts in reverse, lifting the rear to transfer more weight to the front durring take off and shifting.

Now that makes sense, I didn't thinik of that. :beat:

[Coroncho80]

I'd take my hat off for this guy :bow:

[erics86dx]

Thats so awesome man, its like inspiring, he hella took that black car, and just goes to show looks dont matter

[Justin86]

Thats so awesome man, its like inspiring, he hella took that black car, and just goes to show looks dont matter
Sleeper style :D

[89cordlx]

hah I showed my friend and he said a built stratus would beat it.....

[thegreatdane]

Insain.... The rpms increase hella much in just a split second.. I dont think his mileage is very good.

[Lok]

Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skull1441]

holly shit !!

[Rendon LX-i]

Fuck makes me wanna build my car with JE piston. FUCK. thats fast. makes those v8 look like nothing

[dub88acc]

were those really dual webers in the lude'. Now i have an inspiration

[bobafett]

hahaah good ol a20a. i cant wait to get forced induction :)

[BensAccordLxi]

That car is bad ass.

[Justin86]

Insain.... The rpms increase hella much in just a split second.. I dont think his mileage is very good.
Yea thats why its not street legal, He has to be running high compression, high octane, and at least a 100 shot of N2O. :D

[Wood9669]

shiiiiiiiiit
when is he shifting? at like 8k?!???

[sccrsteve5]

:bow: :bow: :bow: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: wow...love it

[Busted_Blue]

dude, whats up with the incar video all sped up for?!

[Justin86]

dude, whats up with the incar video all sped up for?!
Yea that was a litte weird but I think it gave it a nice touch to it. I wish it was slower cause I was trying to figure out how many shift were made, I think 3 shifts.

[89cordlx]

the shift light come son 3 times

[L3G10N]

the inside car is fast fowarded... take a look, it take 4 sec for a 1/4miles?! nah..... the inside shot took 11.27sec. But he shift 3 times.

[A20A1]

I thought something was up with the time... I don't see why they did that.

[Bloodlust]

Damn vid doesnt work anymore, guess Im too late :(

[89NinjaAccordLX]

me too... I wanna see....

[Oyvind Ryeng]

Movie is down :(

[89cordlx]

thats why I downloaded it! :)

[Oyvind Ryeng]

89cordlx: Did not quite catch that?

[89AcCOrDmike]

bring back the video :rant2:

[89cordlx]

89cordlx: Did not quite catch that?
I downloaded it so I don't have to watch it off the net.

[diegoaccord]

BTW, he shifted at 7000.

[Justin86]

I downloaded it so I don't have to watch it off the net.
Yea I did the same, maybe someone could upload the moive off their PC for everyone to see.

[L3G10N]

the video had to be removed of the clubaccordquebec server.... too much bandwitch

[KoNEY]

can anybody post this vid back?????

[87-Lx-i-3Dr]

the video is down.. please fix it I want to see !!!

[BMS]

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One of you guys that dl'd it needs to host it now.

[TWOLOUDNPROUD]

The Link don't work

[keruhas184]

Whoever has the video, send it my way: [email protected] and I'll host it.

[Low Tek]

damn it............ I wanna see this vid

[AccordAddict]

Bah! It Says 404 Error! Please Fix, I Wanna See This!!!!!!!!!!

[TheSummoner101]

link is broken, plz fix me wanna see :D

thanx

[88accordhb]

i'll describe to you guys, ithe intro says "introducing one of the fastest sohc powered cars in the world" or something. then they show jason budd, an 84 lude, they show some pics of the a20a1 motor and the carb, he does a couple of runs, on one of the runs they pause when the exhaust shoots fire. one of the runs, he races a black cutglass i think. the last run he runs an 11.27. they also show inside view which is wicked as hell. then a list of sponsors, i remember je pistons.

[adams86lxi]

i'll describe to you guys, ithe intro says "introducing one of the fastest sohc powered cars in the world" or something. then they show jason budd, an 84 lude, they show some pics of the a20a1 motor and the carb, he does a couple of runs, on one of the runs they pause when the exhaust shoots fire. one of the runs, he races a black cutglass i think. the last run he runs an 11.27. they also show inside view which is wicked as hell. then a list of sponsors, i remember je pistons.


yep thats exactly how i remember it when i used to have it on my comp. Its not that tight.

[Busted_Blue]

I like how it spooled down ..if i remember back in the day when this came out.

[AccordAddict]

did anyone save it on there harddrive? UPLOAD THAT SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

[ehulst]

yeah yo.....i gotta check this dope out......

[MrBen]

Honestly, does everyone need to post saying you can't see it? The link doesn't work. Chill out.

[deadlight]

Of course we're antsy, it's an 11 sec. A20.

[snow_man_20]

BUMP.......Does anyone have this VID?????

[L3G10N]

oh.... what an OLD!!!!!!!! post.

I'll try to get back this vidz.

Gimme me a few Days

[snow_man_20]

oh.... what an OLD!!!!!!!! post.

I'll try to get back this vidz.

Gimme me a few Days


sweet!!!!! Thanks

[b20a86lude]

yes yes please get it back since it shows my car i wanna see pix if possible
2nd gen ludes are the best 11 sec l2nd gen lude hell yea

[2ndgenludedude1986]

got to see it! i saw something about webers so i got to see it. webers are cool :rockon:

[A20A1]

I have the vid, I think but no way to host, maybe send it over AIM?

Esper05

is my SN, let me know who you are from 3geez..

[NXRacer]

PM Jim (hostile) about it Mike. He should be able to post it up. i wanna see the vid too. i dont remember seeing it.

[1987HondaAccord]

the inside car is fast fowarded... take a look, it take 4 sec for a 1/4miles?! nah..... the inside shot took 11.27sec. But he shift 3 times.

well, it could be due to time dilation in special relativity. but that would mean he's going something like 93.5% of the speed of light.

[A20A1]

I could slow it down so that it actually took 11.** seconds if it was in .mov format but it may look funny considering frames were dropped when/if the film was sped it up.

[Low Tek]

I wanna see it

[snow_man_20]

I was also looking for the 150mph lude vid. Does anybody have this vid???

[keruhas184]

http://keruh.com/3gz/A_Series_Drag_Prelude.wmv (13.8 MB)

[88accordhb]

nice! thanx alot.

[Lok]

Thank you very much man, you are great!........

[Justin86]

I love watching that over and over again. On top of it having the manual in there he ran pretty consistant times.

[rjudgey]

Snow man the 150mph lude is mine if you want more vids drop us an e-mail just got a new short clip of me tearing down the straight at Donington race track in the U.K. BTW the Lude won't be doing over 150mph again for a while put the Teg box back in which only does 145mph at 7K!!!! which i don't like doing for too long, the carbed A20A1 box or stock 1.8 lude box is best for high speed crusing before was able to do 120mph at only 5K nice crusing speed!!
P.S anyone found Jason Budds vid yet would like to see this for myself, tough call on who has the fastest 2G lude Mike's turbocharged weber A20 head on ES block is pretty hot runs 11's as well home made manifolds for inlet and exhaust!! But his oldman does have a machine shop!! Damn handy!!

[L3G10N]

i know jason budd personally. He's working on my dual weber setup for my B20A.
All his setup was homemade by himself. But past summer, he remove the dual weber setup and replace it by a custom ITB.

BTW, i have the video high quality(53Mo) in wmv format.

A new video is in production too.

[snow_man_20]

thanks for the vid. That was really cool. that's a fast a20.

[b20a86lude]

ok like i said before i nutted al ova my slef can now i see the true potential of my 2nd gen lude jason bud isd my hero i look up to him and hope to be the next fastes 2nd lude oh my god can someone plese find pix of his car i want lots of pix of his

[L3G10N]

check into this page : http://www.montrealracing.com/gallery/ There'S a lot of pages but for sure, somewhere you'll find a lot of pics i'm sure. If not, then i'll take some for you this summer.

BTW, his best time ever is 10.87@125mph

[b20a86lude]

yes we all know that it is a 2nd gen and 2nd gens are the shizzit and not to rain on 3geez but thats what 2nd gens are al about breaking the 11 sec barrier and now 10 sec i lve the video iv watched 100 times in counting but i still cant find any pixs damnit where do i look on the websit

sorry if i affended any body of anything i said
im just a 2nd gen fanatic and when i see that video get to excited :dunno:

[L3G10N]

ok, i'll ask into the quebecaccordclub if some of 'em have a few pics for you then i'll repost 'em here.

If not, as i told you, i'll take a lot just for you this summer :)

[b20a86lude]

i want too see like close up pix cause im tryin to get ideas from his lude for my lude

[rjudgey]

What kind of power is he hoping to get outta of the B20A? And how come he hasn't tried one in his drag car? I think for all out power the A20 has got some good things going for it be interesting if he would maybe hold a forum on engines just to find out what kinda stuff he's getting upto!! Maybe share some knowledge!!
And JDM86 you'll never be quicker than me ;0)

[b20a86lude]

will see about that rjudgy im going to be the fastest b20a on earth and i will be putiin down 350 at the flywheel on na motor no nitrous what so eva i will be way fater than u paeco is buildin my motor as we speak and they promise 350 with dyno sheets :mod:

[L3G10N]

i want too see like close up pix cause im tryin to get ideas from his lude for my lude

i will! As i already wrote, he doesn't use the dual carb anymore. Is running a custom ITB. You'll see when i'll post some pics this summer.

rjudgey: he's not interested into the b20a world for a few reason, The first one, they are TOO hard to find. The second, it'S TOO hard to rebuild it as he want when he want 'cause of the gasket kit. Third, the a20a cost less than 100$cdn in the junk yard and trust me, he need to have 4 to 5 spare engines cause they blow so many times.

[ICEMAN707]

i wanna see jason budd and johnny o. race each other

[rjudgey]

Yep good reasons same reason why i concentrate on my A20's too, but i have quite a nice collection of B20A spares so i might look a little into upgrading these!!
Jdm86 are you building a pure track race car or is this 340bhp beast going to be for the road? Not being funny but over here full on engine's are U.K specialities and we have people making 2.0l and 3.0l engines using Bike heads from Yamaha R1's with 40valves and V8 blocks that put down 300bhp in a an allready highly tuned package, also Suzuki Hayabusa heads with 3.0l block put down 350-400bhp and these are dedicated track engines, even the best 2.0litre 16 valve engines from Cosworth struggle to pull much more than 260bhp and even Hondas own K20A neepds a supercharger for outputs of more than 300bhp to still keep it driveable and reliable.
Mugen's own B20A for the race series they were in the mid eighties put down 210bhp with a 21mm restrictor plate so de-restricted would most likely produce 275-300bhp but would be totally undriveable on the road? Same for Kings Motorsport 2G lude race engine which had 340bhp would be totally undriveable on road as well as needing a re-build regularily.

I've looked at the B20A and started some R&D on the heads, with a bore increase of 1mm, and some High CR ratio pistons, with some really good headwork with custom 35mm inlet valves and 30mm exhaust valves, custom header and exhaust system, 50-55mm Taper Bore ITB's with custom ECU maybe even twin injectors and seriously long intake trumpets, set of custom made cams with say a 285-295 degree duration and .450-.475 lift you'd be really lucky to hit 250-275bhp and will just about be driveable on the road but whether it would pass emission laws is another thing!!

Would be nice to see a another fully built B20A on the road when do you think you'll have it up and running by?

[thegreatdane]

Another fully built B20A? Does anyone have a fully built B20A on the road at the moment?

[Lok]

jdmB20A and EdmB20A2/A8 with wild cams, ITR pistons, Jenvey ITB, P&P head, custom cam gears, DTA ECU (or some other) free flow exhaust and header, and some dyno tunning could make 230-240hp N/A reliably and streetable...
Carotman's car is very near to that level, he missed only the ITB kit, stand alone ECU
and free flow header-exhaust.
I just find this company make some nice spec cams for the B20A, but i don't know if rjudgey, thegreatdane, or somebody else has any feedback about this company???:

http://www.catcams.co.uk/

As you see the part number for B18A and B20A is the same......................these two engines have same cams as RobT5580 said, when he measured the two cams, some months before.....

[L3G10N]

i've already posted before about the b18b cam into the b20a. It's what i'm using, but they are customs.

[Lok]

Yes L3G10N, sorry, I forget that you have done a lot of research about B20A cams when you were rebuilding your B20A.....
Probably then, we could use also Crower and Crane performance cams for B20A
N/A tunning?

http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&lvl=4&prt=2031

http://www.crower.com/cat/import/honda/cams/b18ab.shtml

[L3G10N]

yes you can use Crane or Crower cam for the b20a. The important thing is that they need to be for B18B engine and you'll need to mod 'em a bit cause the b18B are a bit longer than the b20A cam. But it's really ...... like nothing :)

[keruhas184]

Alright guys, I'm taking the video off my server until the end of April. It was downloaded close to 2000 times in this short time, and frankly, I don't want to exceed my bandwidth limit and pay out of my own pocket for the overhead. Sorry for any inconvenience.

[rjudgey]

so B18A are no good then? Thats what their listed as for B20A/B18A?
Also Mr Budd doen't want to share too many secrets about his 10 second A20 lude, the most we managed to squeeze outta him was that he was putting down 183whp - NOS with his engine before swapping to turbo and was running just over 12 seconds without the NOS so most of his actual speed is down to the car being extremely light weight as mine puts down those numbers but my car is DL weight minus a few lb's from carpet and a few other bits and bobs i've binned, but plan on gutting doors and using lexan side windows, kevlar bucket seats, race mirrors, loosing some sound deadening from old stereo install. With some suspension mods and some stickier wider front tyres i reckon i could cut at least a second or more of my current time of 14.6 seconds, but hope to have a more powerfull A20 engine this summer with about 230whp which should easily cruise in the 12's!!
At least JE have some patterns for A20's and ET's!! So if anyones after forged pistons give em a ring i'm sure they'll want your money!!

[rjudgey]

just sopke with the U.K dealer for Cat Cams their based in Belgium and they'll make anything from scratch from chilled cast or billet steel, also the years of the B20A they have listed seem to match Preludes and Accords of the same ERA so it looks like they are for an Actual B20A!! The guy's going to phone me back to confirm tomorrow hopefully price was about £360 ish pounds for the pair which is pretty good.
Also they said that they could do a custom grind on steel billet for A20 for around £250-300ish only down side they need a head and valve train to test fit but as i have plenty spare shouldn't be a problem!!

[contraband]

I was actually thinking rich that our hp numbers are quite high. Seems our speeds were *relatively* similar and I was only pushing 130 at the wheels. I also believe torque has a lot to do with our speed! I can still lay it out to 200+ hp cars without trouble, so it is by no means slow. I'd bet Budd is pushing around 250lbs of torque with the turbo and maybe 230whp. Dont want to step on your toes here because I was looking for much higher numbers too!

Anyway I dont think it was posted here but here is the turbo video, 10 flat.

http://keruh.com/3gz/a20_turbo_prelude_jason_budd.wmv

[L3G10N]

yeah you're right contraband. I've forget to post this one.

[A20A1]

How does the steel billet compare in strength to the stock A20 cam?