venom and jet control modules

[ryan88lxi]

does any one have any experience with these?

http://planetperformance.com/products/?productID=1266449
http://planetperformance.com/products/?productID=705784

i have heard bad things about jet, but as far as i know, venom sells decent products. i told my friend i was thinking about buying the venom module, and he said it is a piece of shit. it kind of surprised me, because if it does what it says it does, it seems like it would be a decent investment. especially if it is tuneable, which it seems like it is. any insight on this would be much appreciated. thanks!!

[shepherd79]

venom is the same as Apexi i am trying to sell.
all it does is modifies the MAP sensor.

[ryan88lxi]

the apexi is adjustable, correct? does it do anything else? like fuel maps and things? is there any difference between teh afc II and the safc? what does the one you are t

[smufguy]

So these are small grade piggy back systems kinda huh? they manipulate the signals from the sensors and feed em to the stock ECU right? but how far can the stock ECU go? Im sure the range is pretty limited cause all our ecu does is fuel injection and some minor things and it does not even control ignition cause our dist is vaccuum advance right?

Alex, i been meaning to ask you this, how do u actually run lean if ur ecu can compensate for the loss of fuel when u bump the fuel down? does'nt the injectors increase their duty cycle and maintain a stoic AF ratio?