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86LXItooFAST4me
03-30-2004, 11:16 AM
Hey what the most amount of Horse Power anyone has ever "PUSHED" through a 3G with no motor swap??

Nuffice
03-30-2004, 11:17 AM
Hey what the most amount of Horse Power anyone has ever "PUSHED" through a 3G with no motor swap??


30hp hahahahahhhaaha

hondamanlxi
03-30-2004, 11:18 AM
one of seans creations is bound to be over 220hp

shepherd79
03-30-2004, 11:19 AM
88turboaccord used to push 300+ hp on his car.
i know sean is working on 450+ hp motor, unless he has it already.

NXRacer
03-30-2004, 11:24 AM
i can sell you a 1200hp nitrous kit. . . . . :D

I'd be willing to bet sean has the most dyno'd hp.

Nuffice
03-30-2004, 11:32 AM
i can sell you a 1200hp nitrous kit. . . . . :D

I'd be willing to bet sean has the most dyno'd hp.

Any Dyno Graphs?

hondamanlxi
03-30-2004, 12:13 PM
Nx, thats alot of goddamn juice!

86LXItooFAST4me
03-30-2004, 12:16 PM
hahaha, id like to see a engine after a shoot that big, or at least what is left of it LOL :bong:

NXRacer
03-30-2004, 12:24 PM
Nx, thats alot of goddamn juice!
about 1 10lb bottle per cylinder i think. . . . . . . you may get away with one 15lb bottle, but it wont last long.

and yeah, its made for a very special application. not for your average racer.

smufguy
04-01-2004, 04:03 PM
well i know Jhonny-o (the 10s 3g monster) is pushing around 500whp+ on his dragster and do know that car has no fiberglass or carbon fiber body except lexan windows. And sean's high end drag motor would be putting over 600whp+ if im not mistaken. HE was getting 200whp in meter 6-8 psi on bone stock motor with no internals modded.

oh yeah, as of now, ill be glad if im pushing 130hp. BUt shit i wish. :sad2:

Justin86
04-02-2004, 11:17 PM
i can sell you a 1200hp nitrous kit. . . . . :D

I'd be willing to bet sean has the most dyno'd hp.
Oh yea I forgot about are little planing on that, so we still going to use my extra motor for that. he he he
As for hp SEAN, Justin, and Jonny have hit that most and are working on going higher. When I get my turbo project under way I'm aiming for 500 hp and I will run N2O if I need to and make it still streetable.

Sean
04-03-2004, 05:35 PM
well i know Jhonny-o (the 10s 3g monster) is pushing around 500whp+ on his dragster and do know that car has no fiberglass or carbon fiber body except lexan windows. And sean's high end drag motor would be putting over 600whp+ if im not mistaken. HE was getting 200whp in meter 6-8 psi on bone stock motor with no internals modded.

oh yeah, as of now, ill be glad if im pushing 130hp. BUt shit i wish. :sad2:


this is a mistatemnt abouth the last proven power level of johhny-o's car. given MPH et 60ft time and other assorted time slip data also given wieght and drag at best he made just around 310-330 WHP and around 385 flywheel.

As for the most dyno proven WHP to date hang tight i got a lot of runs here comming up soon and i should easily be able to best that number. ill honestly be disapointed if the damn thing doesnt make at least 425whp.

if anyone would liek to argue the point about this go here punch in 2000lbs wieght minimum with driver for his class and put in 330whp as the number. everything lines up perfectly.

http://www.prestage.com/Car+Math/ET+and+Horsepower+Calculators/Calculate+ET+and+MPH+using+HP+and+Weight+/default.aspx

i can also provide numerous other sims ive done as well as my own testing that makes my 100% confident that is about as much power as hes made to date.

smufguy
04-03-2004, 08:45 PM
okay, that is something i cant prove. When i was there, jhonny was going over 130mph. Okay lets have that. and he is in the 2000lb category. I dont know what kinda software that site uses, despite the virtual engine banner on top. And it gave me 10.8s in a 1/4, but sure as hell he just broke into the 10s and they were pretty high 10s. and it says 135mph.

But if you use Virtual engine calculator software, that i have, i get 412hp from a quartermile speed of mere 130mph and 2000lbs. So i would say, that aint a good software to compare stuff.

Besides, i was there, let alone, me and travis were there talking to Jhonny right before he switched to the B16 manifold, he said he was pushing around 500+ hp at the wheels and thats with 35lbs.

I Dont want this thread to be a despute bwt you and Jhonny, but i said that from my talk with Jhonny himself. If i am wrong, jhonny can come here and put up his updated numbers. but i def dont want this thread to get outta hand become a debate. :)

Neuspeed87lx
04-03-2004, 08:51 PM
35 lbs ! daamn ..johney's car is indeed amazing ... and so is seans.... lets just say they both make huge power ....

lightbulblxi
04-03-2004, 08:55 PM
doesnt kmod have a drag 3g?

Justin86
04-04-2004, 05:59 PM
Yea he does but he just runs a good engine platform with a 100 shot and slicks to run, I belive mid 13's.

RobT5580
04-04-2004, 06:23 PM
Yeah i have to say from seeing Jonnys car his is probably pushing the most power thus far. Im not sure what seans got going on but i saw Jonnys car run a few times at the track and i think he could do even better with a better turbo manifold and a few other things.

smufguy
04-04-2004, 08:53 PM
well we know he comes off the line with 19lbs and droppin from 6000rpm and with a lot of tire spin. I know he can do better with a better clutch than what he already has, but i dont know. Also, a lot of weight reduction from the fenders and door skins and def a different hood might help him out. but its just me rambling on.

Justin86
04-05-2004, 07:44 AM
Yea I'm not sure on what weight reduction he has but with some CF peices and removing some metal it would help him out. I'm working on cutting out the spare tire well and some other peices in my trunk currently.

smufguy
04-05-2004, 09:37 AM
Yea I'm not sure on what weight reduction he has but with some CF peices and removing some metal it would help him out. I'm working on cutting out the spare tire well and some other peices in my trunk currently.

that is not really gonna reduce ur weight, maybe 5 lbs the max. If your really want to reduce weight, change your gas tank. Cause our gas tank even without any gas, weighs like a mofo.

86LXItooFAST4me
04-23-2004, 11:28 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2474351225

how much boost could a 86 accord take? like what is the most it can handle and about what size turbo to use? considering the motor is rebuilt with stock internals and head and manifolds fully preped? just wondering what turbo to work with, a T4 maybe??

http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/01/af/23/15_1.JPG
http://i23.ebayimg.com/03/i/01/ad/c7/76_1_b.JPG

POS carb
04-23-2004, 08:51 PM
I have 4 of those in my 3gee






Let me know when it's time to wake up :uh:

NXRacer
04-23-2004, 09:02 PM
t4 is WAAAYY too huge. you'd have boost lag like no tomorrow. T28 is a good one. A little bit bigger (i think super60?) is the best.

smufguy
04-23-2004, 10:39 PM
t4 is WAAAYY too huge. you'd have boost lag like no tomorrow. T28 is a good one. A little bit bigger (i think super60?) is the best.

I second that, a T4 has a nasty lag. If you look at the exhaust side, you can pretty much see what we are talking about and you pretty much know what we are talking about. A hybrid turbo is always a good solution.

MilTownSHO
04-24-2004, 02:01 AM
one of seans creations is bound to be over 220hp

Hmm my stock engine size! :rofl:

smufguy
04-24-2004, 06:53 AM
Hmm my stock engine size! :rofl:

and we do it with 2 less cylinders and one litre less displacement :tongue: :kekeke:

86LXItooFAST4me
04-24-2004, 07:07 AM
im going to use a T80!!! :ugh:

RobT5580
04-24-2004, 07:41 AM
I have a Garrett T3 Super 60 for my B20A and everyone i talk to seems to agree that its a nice setup for what i have. Now i cant wait to finish this thing up and actually drive it. But as i recommend to anyone that wants to go turbo you should build the engine with atleast new pistons/rings at minimum. Plus your going to need some sort of fuel management so when it comes to putting a turbo on a 3gee its not going to be cheap in any sense. Everything is custom and so far the only attempt to cut the cost down is with Sean's kit which is a start.

Justin86
04-24-2004, 09:07 AM
yea and the size really depends on what use you have in plan for it, strip or street or both. The T3 super60 is pretty damn good or you can go a hybrid T3/T4 or something small and quick spool that SEAN offers for his kits.

MilTownSHO
04-25-2004, 02:02 AM
and we do it with 2 less cylinders and one litre less displacement :tongue: :kekeke:

Very true when I had my 3g, I thought about buying some junkyard Turbo and screwing around with it, cause I'm sure it would fly. I mean I only paid $50 for the thing so what did I care if it blew up! :lol:

deadlight
04-25-2004, 02:11 AM
Man, too bad that thing got wrecked, that was a nice 3gee.

AccordEpicenter
04-26-2004, 07:32 AM
well the calculator said that with me in the car (2700 lb loaded) with 140hp (at the flywheel, at the wheels 125) it should do 16.2, and it does

Justin86
04-26-2004, 09:04 AM
well the calculator said that with me in the car (2700 lb loaded) with 140hp (at the flywheel, at the wheels 125) it should do 16.2, and it does
Yea then drop in a teg tranny and see how fast you are. :)

86LXItooFAST4me
04-26-2004, 09:10 AM
Yea then drop in a teg tranny and see how fast you are. :)

i was thinkin about doing that. is it overall worth it? what does it do to the top speed?

deadlight
04-26-2004, 09:13 AM
I don't worry about top speed, most races are stoplight races anyways, or 1/4. If somebody beats you from a roll there's always going to be a stop afterwards...

86LXItooFAST4me
04-26-2004, 09:15 AM
i dont care about top speed raceing, i just like going fast! :)

smufguy
04-26-2004, 05:09 PM
i was thinkin about doing that. is it overall worth it? what does it do to the top speed?

you keep the stock 5th gear, so u get ur top speed and fuel economy. Its just the first thru fourth gears that are replaced.

Justin86
04-26-2004, 07:23 PM
you keep the stock 5th gear, so u get ur top speed and fuel economy. Its just the first thru fourth gears that are replaced.but you also have to use the accord diff. if you want to keep your top crusing speed. I have the accord 5th but the teg diff.
So in real use, in 5th gear at 3K RPMS I'm only going 65mph but with accord tranny you would be doing about 85 mph, so you loose some mpg and about 20mph off your max-redline speed but really who goes 165mph that the accord tranny is capable.
So base it on your mpg. I figure I lost about 5-3 mpg with the teg diff, but what I gain in acceleration and being able to climb a mt pass in 5th at 2200rpm and still accelerate!!! if I wanted to is pretty damn sweet. :D

A20A1
04-26-2004, 08:17 PM
Is the inlet for the the exhaust seperated all the way inside the turbo, with 2 seperate turbines... or does that turbo in the pic use that as a sort of merge before the single turbine.

3G Jester
04-27-2004, 02:28 PM
praveen? i thought johnny was running high then 35 lbs..more like 40-44?

smufguy
04-27-2004, 07:45 PM
praveen? i thought johnny was running high then 35 lbs..more like 40-44?

Could be, but the last time i saw in English town in Nov was with you and he was pushing around 35psi.