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BKKloppenborg
04-08-2004, 07:20 PM
I have a mannual right now and i like it its fun, BUT traffic in CA is HORRIBLE. so all i do is burn up clutches, and sit in traffic all the time and its gets old. Mannuals are fun but i was thinking about getting a Auto on my car. Is this a good or bad thing? My parents just got a 2004 Honda Accord LX (thats why i got old Honda) and they have a auto because they didn't like shifting in traffic plus they went though like 4 clutches. Their car is fast and all with a auto so would you guys use a auto on your car? CA HAS BAD TRAFFIC.. :uh: :mad:

sccrsteve5
04-08-2004, 07:28 PM
hell...i'll trade u all my auto stuff for ur manual stuff...i've been looking to swap to 5-speed...holla at me

dub88acc
04-08-2004, 07:36 PM
I'll take manual over an automatic anyday. Manual makes dring fun and plus ot is almost impossible to sleep. An automatic is just plane boring. Stick with the manual. An d only move in traffic when it really moves. don;t move just for a foot or two. that way you'll really burn your clutch.

johndej
04-08-2004, 07:39 PM
yeah, manuals are far better then autos if you know how to drive them well

skull1441
04-08-2004, 07:39 PM
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HondaBoy
04-08-2004, 07:52 PM
i'd say manual is king over automatic. i wish my car was manual shift. i mean, the automatic can be nice so you dont have to shift all the time moving through traffic, but then i hate my automatic because it shifts too hard. i'd like it to be smooth like my '02 accord. but the 3gee's is fully hydrolic. anyway, the manual is fun, gets more power to the ground most times, gets better gas mileage. oh, and you can modify it, luckly for y'all with manual, you can add a nice clutch and other stuff. i think i can get a tranny shop here in town to put a shift kit in my auto actually, im going to check either tomorrow or the weekend. ok, so i want the manual. i've planned that any car i do buy in the future will have to be manual.

Busted_Blue
04-08-2004, 08:16 PM
manual = good but bad for traffic

but you shouldn't be killing the clutch so fast.... Either you are slipping too much on engagement or something. Best way to ride in traffic is roll super slow in 1st. :D

but if you guys are killing clutches i suggest you get an auto car for daily driver and keep the 5spd 3gee around for fun on the weekends.

BKKloppenborg
04-08-2004, 08:54 PM
manual = good but bad for traffic

but you shouldn't be killing the clutch so fast.... Either you are slipping too much on engagement or something. Best way to ride in traffic is roll super slow in 1st. :D

but if you guys are killing clutches i suggest you get an auto car for daily driver and keep the 5spd 3gee around for fun on the weekends.

Would a Racing Clutch be better? What is the difference beween a racing and regular one. I know one is for racing lol, but i heard you dont have to put your foot down on the clutch so far down is this true? If so is it worth it to get one next time my mom burns the clutch out of my car when she drives it? :rolleyes:

ivanfbi
04-08-2004, 10:36 PM
I think that in traffic, stock ones are a lot better, cuz sports ones are stiff, and you don't want to do stiff moves...

TWOLOUDNPROUD
04-08-2004, 11:09 PM
Auto for Life The 87 hatch i just got has a 5speed in it i am going to RIP it out and put a Auto in it

Busted_Blue
04-09-2004, 01:31 AM
Auto for Life The 87 hatch i just got has a 5speed in it i am going to RIP it out and put a Auto in it

sigh tom...sigh.. :(

87-Lx-i-3Dr
04-09-2004, 08:52 AM
I will never own a Auto !!!!!

DanLXI88
04-09-2004, 09:17 AM
I like the auto myself. It might be more fun to drive with a stick but I have better things to do then shift gears. It would be nice to have an auto with a true 1st gear though.

Tecknixia
04-09-2004, 11:01 AM
I have to admit I like these autos a lot better than any other auto I've ever driven. I don't know if it's because it's old or what but it shifts quick and hard, kind of feels like a manual, and if you get used to it you can control the shift points with the amount of pressure on the gas pedal.

I love the way my car shifts. I've always thought it was very fun to drive even though it's an auto.

However, nothing can replace the control you have with a manual, that's why the next car I get will have one. Then the car and I will be one.

'89AccordLX(Rus)
04-09-2004, 11:40 AM
Would a Racing Clutch be better? What is the difference beween a racing and regular one. I know one is for racing lol, but i heard you dont have to put your foot down on the clutch so far down is this true? If so is it worth it to get one next time my mom burns the clutch out of my car when she drives it? :rolleyes:

In traffic, and as mentioned before, you can roll at almost idle with clutch completely engaged. With enough experience, you don't even need to let the clutch slip much if engaging at low speed. Just get the car moving to about 5mph and release all the way, that way you are cruising at about 850 rpm and you didn't just burn the clutch for 2-5 seconds taking off (proper throttle and clutch control is crucial for this, otherwise it is jerky). A racing clutch, although providing a little more durability, will not fix the problems in traffic. It will provide more grip, thus a stiffer and rougher engagement. It may in fact encourage whoever drives the car to let the clutch slip even more because they can't get it to engage smoothly (again, here driver experience and skill separate those who can use a clutch for 100K+ miles, and those that replace theirs every 45K miles). Instead of changing to a different kind of clutch, try to change your driving habits, or the habits of whoever drives the car. Also, about the clutch release distance. I am not exactly sure what you mean, but maybe that the clutch releases earlier. This is adjustable with your clutch cable. It may result in clutch damage if adjusted incorrectly. Generally clutches don't differ much in how soon they release, based on their type that is (regular, racing, etc.).

Hope this helps.

speedpenguin
04-09-2004, 12:01 PM
i'd say manual is better.
didn't you say you were moving anyway? if you are, you're gonna want to switch back to it when you get out of CA anyway, aren't you?
someone made a point about sleeping, and he's right. it's a lot easier to fall asleep when all you have to do is stick your foot on the gas and leave it there.
finally, i think if you're planning on running your car on the track, it's pretty much essential to have a manual
but to each his own.

A20A1
04-09-2004, 03:21 PM
Auto for Life The 87 hatch i just got has a 5speed in it i am going to RIP it out and put a Auto in it

:cheers: It's always good to see more Auto-Junkies

NXRacer
04-09-2004, 03:26 PM
Auto for Life The 87 hatch i just got has a 5speed in it i am going to RIP it out and put a Auto in it
thats the most retarded thing i've heard. . . . . .

besides getting BETTER gas mileage, a stick is just plain fun to drive. If you know how to drive a clutch correctly, your motor will burn up before your clutch does in traffic. . . . . .

A20A1
04-09-2004, 03:28 PM
...and if you get used to it you can control the shift points with the amount of pressure on the gas pedal.


I used to do it that way before I disconnected the trans kickdown cable and started fooling with it manually.
Hook the TV/Kickdowncable to another lever and add a few notches to hold the lever for you; one for regular driving, one for uphill driving, and one for all out racing... then you can easily unhook the lever from the notches and adjust it by hand for those times you feel like it. Someone mentioned hooking it up to a pedal. but I'd need to swap in my manual pedal assembly and rig the cable to the clutch pedal.

MoonScryer
04-09-2004, 05:13 PM
I've raced an auto and manual, and driven both in traffic in Atlanta. Having an auto in my current LXi and with Atlanta traffic a hopefully soon daily hell again, I welcome it. If I lived out in the country like I do now, I would put a manual in it. I feel for people stuck with a manual who live in a major city - get an auto.

k-roy
04-09-2004, 05:34 PM
Which is better a Manual or Auto?

That has to be the stupidest question I have heard in a long time. Make up your own mind as what is right to you. The fact is the only person that can answer that question for you is yourself.

BKKloppenborg
04-09-2004, 05:40 PM
Which is better a Manual or Auto?

That has to be the stupidest question I have heard in a long time. Make up your own mind as what is right to you. The fact is the only person that can answer that question for you is yourself.

Damn wtf is your probelm? Its a openion yes but i was wondering what more people perfer so how can i find that out if i don't ask? I also wanted to know if the auto on a 89 Accord is a good Auto. So wtf :pc: :mad: :wtf: :rant: :flipa: :devil: :chainsaw: :rocket: :huh:

k-roy
04-09-2004, 06:00 PM
Damn wtf is your probelm? Its a openion yes but i was wondering what more people perfer so how can i find that out if i don't ask? I also wanted to know if the auto on a 89 Accord is a good Auto. So wtf :pc: :mad: :wtf: :rant: :flipa: :devil: :chainsaw: :rocket: :huh:
I have no problem, thanks for asking though. You asked a pretty dumb question. The word best is compltly subjective, meaning you will get a different response from everyone based upon their experience, enviroment and how they drive. You asked what was best and that is impossible to answer because we do not know you on a personal level. Oh and the 89 Accord auto tranny is not too great, just ask one of the hunreds of users with rebuilt ones.


BTW, its spelled OPINION.

mzabeefy
04-09-2004, 06:38 PM
I don't think it's a dumb question. I prefer manual for several reasons: the control over the engine speed, the fun-factor, the fact that it's lighter than the automatic and I can actually lift it without a jack. Although sometimes I do wish I had an automatic, especially in traffic, I believe that a manual is more efficient overall. In regards to the sleeping comment, Usually I only fall asleep while driving on the highway(jk), but when I'm on the highway, I don't have to shift because it's in fifth for a long time, so it's kind of like driving an automatic. Also, my brother & sister don't know how to drive a manual, so they can't steal my key & steal my car and wreck it. Big plus!

dXsquared
04-09-2004, 06:41 PM
auto is best if you dont know how to drive a standard corectly... your folks prolly rev to 2K and slip the clutch to get going.. i dont even have to hit 1100 before i start accelerating... creeping in traffic is fine.. i dont een use extra gas... just a little clutch

Travis

TWOLOUDNPROUD
04-09-2004, 07:28 PM
Hey guys no need to Fight over this I had 4 @5speeds and auto's and yes you have more control with a 5speed but if you have the money you can make a auto compete with a 5speed the only thing that does suck about the 86-89 auto we don't have the much control over the 1th gear after i had my auto rebuilt and put the stall converter in i can hold 1th gear up to 45-50mph but im redlineing bad but up to you what you want 5speed is less money auto is a lot of money but the auto for 1/4 mi racing is more consistent then a 5speed for time run's.That what i think. :rice: :pc:

Justin86
04-09-2004, 07:36 PM
I have a mannual right now and i like it its fun, BUT traffic in CA is HORRIBLE. so all i do is burn up clutches, and sit in traffic all the time and its gets old. Mannuals are fun but i was thinking about getting a Auto on my car. Is this a good or bad thing? My parents just got a 2004 Honda Accord LX (thats why i got old Honda) and they have a auto because they didn't like shifting in traffic plus they went though like 4 clutches. Their car is fast and all with a auto so would you guys use a auto on your car? CA HAS BAD TRAFFIC.. :uh: :mad:
OMG are you joking me..... hum whats faster a manual or a Flintstones car????????
Dude if your buring up clutches then you have a problem. There is people that have had stock accord clutches last them 200,000. Mine was still good with 130K and I didn't have problems with until I started to dump it, do burn outs, and I tried to destroy that clutch. :birthday:

NeubJ
04-09-2004, 07:44 PM
I know what you mean about driving in traffic with a 5spd. (especially in CA)
Auto's are the way to go when driving in traffic like that. Plus you have more freedom. (especially when your lady is sitting next to you)

TWOLOUDNPROUD
04-09-2004, 08:18 PM
A auto give more time to have fun with your lady ( @ ) Y ( @ ) :lock:

BKKloppenborg
04-09-2004, 09:03 PM
OMG are you joking me..... hum whats faster a manual or a Flintstones car????????
Dude if your buring up clutches then you have a problem. There is people that have had stock accord clutches last them 200,000. Mine was still good with 130K and I didn't have problems with until I started to dump it, do burn outs, and I tried to destroy that clutch. :birthday:

I said my mom and dad burned uo the clutchs i am not that bad of a shifter lol. Before i got their car they said the had to replace the clutch 4 times. Mostly because of my mom, she can't shift very well. :uh: :rofl: :kekeke:

smufguy
04-09-2004, 09:51 PM
BKKloppenborg, you are not a nubie anymore. so fucking post in the right section man. You wanna ask which one is better use the damn offtopic section, wtf would u use the PERFORMANCE section? Besides, it would be different if you asked can you beef up ur auto tranny with a racing torque converter or something, then it would have been tolerable. But u just want people's opinion, dude post in the right section.

Mike, cant you move it?

BMS
04-09-2004, 09:57 PM
Manuals in traffic are not bad at all. You just have to know how to put a leash on the beast and show it who's boss. The manual vs. auto question has been asked about a bazillion times so I see how it can get annoying. Some people are just not car inclined though and some people, like my sister for example, doesn't even understand that a car has more than one gear to start with. Dumb questions happen, and some people get irritated and some people help. I hardly think it's worth an entire thread though.

pixiesfan78
04-09-2004, 10:06 PM
this shit is farging humorouse......................................... ..................

speedpenguin
04-10-2004, 10:59 AM
If you know how to drive a clutch correctly, your motor will burn up before your clutch does in traffic. . . . . .
lol
i just got my car last fall, and i'm about to put in it's 3rd clutch. someone was doing something wrong.
any hints to improve my technique? usually if i'm just driving around, i rev the engine to match the road speed to improve the engagement time. i also drop the clutch before 2k rpm when i start. is there anything else i can do?

Jims 86LXI HB
04-10-2004, 10:43 PM
I have no problem, thanks for asking though. You asked a pretty dumb question. The word best is compltly subjective, meaning you will get a different response from everyone based upon their experience, enviroment and how they drive. You asked what was best and that is impossible to answer because we do not know you on a personal level. Oh and the 89 Accord auto tranny is not too great, just ask one of the hunreds of users with rebuilt ones.


BTW, its spelled OPINION.

Hey, look,..........I know his question's grate on you. But it's not cool to tell him he asked a stupid question, especially when talking like that to another member is how we start blow out's (you know what I mean). Frankly, I see the whole AT/MT thing flung around on a lot of car forums and people always fight about it, jeez they even fight over coupe vs sedan on some of other boards I visit. Point is, granted the topic is subjective, but let's not disrespect another member to try and get him to stop posting questions. If his question is lame, let the lack of repies be what starves him from posting such a thing again, ignor it in otherwords. (Well at least try :sad2:)

smufguy
04-10-2004, 11:36 PM
hahahah :mod: :lock:

lightbulblxi
04-11-2004, 01:27 AM
originally posted by TWOLOUDNPROUD
thing that does suck about the 86-89 auto we don't have the much control over the 1th gear


is firth(1th) gear one of those things that only comes on an auto?. heh.jp man.

diegoaccord
04-11-2004, 02:51 AM
AUTOTRAGIC blows ass!!!!!!! If you can't drive in rushour traffic with an unsprung hub you blow too!!!!!

BKKloppenborg
04-12-2004, 05:09 PM
AUTOTRAGIC blows ass!!!!!!! If you can't drive in rushour traffic with an unsprung hub you blow too!!!!!

k ty all for help. I will keep my mannual even though it is a pain in the ass in traffic.