Finally Lowered Car

[carfreak]

I got some H&R springs and lowed (1.5 in) my car yesterday. Here are some pics:

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/501000-501999/501608_9_full.jpg
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P.S. For those guys who told me GR-2's would be to bouncy, so far its been stiffer then stock struts. However there is a 90 day money back guarantee so if they start to suck i may turn them back in. But sofar my handleing and ride is about 2x as better then it was before.

[Moodybluesr]

Mmm.. nice! That's making me looking forward to lowering mine. I've had my lightspeed springs sitting in my entry for two months now and the Tokico HP's I ordered are on the way. I am hoping for a drop pretty much just like yours. :D

[carfreak]

yeah, with a drop of 1.5 it is definitely noticeable. Yours is a 1.5 drop too right? Oh and it was a very big pain compressing the springs with the stupid spring compressor. It kept slipping off of the springs and hitting my arm :mad: ... that’s like the hardest part. I also had some trouble putting the back struts in. You have to put a lot of weight on the drum to push it far enough down so that the hole will line up.

[DR1VER]

Car looks great, not too low. Does it make the ride much more uncomfortable? The roads are quite bad near me. Also does it increase vibration/cabin noise?

[Andrew]

Looks Great...maybe one day I'll be able to afford to do mine.

[dub88acc]

it doesn't look dropped to me

[Vinny]

Looks good. One question though, why does the passenger side seem like its sitting higher than the driver? The last pic looks like its ATLEAST stock height. Is it the way the car is setting in the pic or have you measured both sides on level ground??????

[wikkedv15]

yeah, with a drop of 1.5 it is definitely noticeable. Yours is a 1.5 drop too right? Oh and it was a very big pain compressing the springs with the stupid spring compressor. It kept slipping off of the springs and hitting my arm :mad: ... that’s like the hardest part. I also had some trouble putting the back struts in. You have to put a lot of weight on the drum to push it far enough down so that the hole will line up.


LOL.. the easiest way to do this.. (flame suit on for those who are too pussy)
wrap the entire assembly in a towel.. and take it into your yard.. do this with two people..
compress the spring but not alot just some.. to remove a lil slack..
remember that the nut on the strut compresses alot.. and as im assuming u noticed.. when u undid the nut.. u had alot of space.. between the top hat and spring..
so
compress the spring a lil bit..
and have someone begin to undo the nut while someone else has their foot on the assembly..
yes it will pop.. but if u compresses it some.. not alot..
ive done this to 3 cars..and saves a HELL of alot of time..
and as for putting it back on.. i know that fork bolt is a bitch.. lol.. its best to have a friend help.. throught the entire install..
have them push on the drum.. and someone else puts the bolt through.. :kekeke:

[Bryan]

Yah it might be the picture but the passenger side does look higher, did you measure it? But other then that it looks great. Plus a great looking car too.
Bryan.

[lightbulblxi]

looks clean, but it hink it would look better with a drop like mine.

[Busted_Blue]

Looks good. Nice drop, not too noticable but subtle differences to the car. I'm not fond of the dumped look, so this looks great! Love the color too ;) I don't know about the whole bouncing issue. By the way, did you get an alignment? It would be a wise decision to do so, as my toe was off when i did my suspension.

Overall my suspension was pretty easy to do. All you need is the right tools.
I used this badboy:
http://www.handsontools.com/store/show_product/?product_id=7671

[carfreak]

both sides are about the same(the drivers side is actually 1/8 lower), but it mainly looks like that because i was not on flat ground on the last pic...you dont really even notice it at all on level ground... As for the ride, its a little stiffer then normal. You'll hate to go over pot holes a lot :mad:. Your going to have to try and dodge them. I do have a before pic. The tape measure is to show where my car currently is. With stock susspension it looks like a could go 4x4'ing with that car.


[edit: Yes i have an alignment appointment this tuesday.]

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/501000-501999/501608_13_full.jpg

[Bryan]

Looks good, why is the driverside lower? Are you going to try to fix that or just leave it as is?

[carfreak]

my guess is because the springs were seated diffrently on the passanger side. However its not visibly noticable. The only way i even noticed it was when i was measureing all the sides i noticed that the passenger side was 1/8 higher.

[Vinny]

to me even in the last pic on level ground it looks quite a bit higher than a 1 1/2" rop should sit. That looks almost stock height. I know my 1 1/2" leaves alot less gap between the tire and the fender, especially in the front. Look at the pic in my sig, that drop is with 1.5" H&R's

[SteveDX89]

Car isn't low enough. If you don't like potholes on the H&R's, try the Sprints. They'll rattle the teeth out of your head. I'm used to it now but when I first got it, it was crazy.

[carfreak]

to me even in the last pic on level ground it looks quite a bit higher than a 1 1/2" rop should sit. That looks almost stock height. I know my 1 1/2" leaves alot less gap between the tire and the fender, especially in the front. Look at the pic in my sig, that drop is with 1.5" H&R's

My tires are 15s...

[Vinny]

even with 14's my gap was ALOT less

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=bbbf22e4-293e-44c3-571d-2cc766337f23&size=

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=4bb62560-4f65-1e32-3bc4-78b82ac920a7&size=

Not knockin your work, just saying you may want to get it rechecked. Its looks almost stock on the passenger side

[86AccordLxi]

On my car the driver side was noticeably lower than on the passenger side, for whatever reason. Dunno why or how to fix it.

Alex

[Busted_Blue]

don't they need to settle in? I think my car looks a tad lower than originally when i first did it. I drove about 1000miles since I dropped it and I notice it seems a tad lower and stiffer.

Looks like my drop right now on your car, Are you sure you got what you think you have?

[carfreak]

don't they need to settle in? I think my car looks a tad lower than originally when i first did it. I drove about 1000miles since I dropped it and I notice it seems a tad lower and stiffer.

Looks like my drop right now on your car, Are you sure you got what you think you have?

I think that is what it could be. Also i just want to check that i put them in right: Ok i first pushed down the spring just enough so that i could put the nut on the center bolt thing. Then i put the strut with spring on car. Then lowered car and tightened the bolt again till i couldn't get it any more down.

Is that the correct way for putting the springs back on? I beleived that was the correct way.

[Vinny]

The ACTUAL correct wat to do it is to compress the spring with a compressor and tighten the nut all the way down while the spring is still compressed with the compressor.
Did you tighten the upper mounts first then the lowers? Also when you tightened the lower mount bolts, both front and rear where they go through the lower arm, did you have the suspension under full load?????

[carfreak]

Also when you tightened the lower mount bolts, both front and rear where they go through the lower arm, did you have the suspension under full load

I may have to do that. I'll just go loosen those bolts and then tighten them while the car is down.

[Vinny]

If you do that you'll need to loosen them all the way. Might wana move the car around a lil bit as well. of course make sure they are semi snug but not tight. Since they go through a bushing they need to have a load on them, be it the weight of the car or a jack. When I do any suspension work on the lift I use a stand with a jackscrew and lift the suspension all the way up to the position it sets with weight on it then torque it down. Also if you broke the upper control arm loose from the knuckle you might want to make sure its seated in right and torqued down

[Hash_man_Se_i]

it doesn't look dropped to me

I agree, my car almost looks lower and it is riding on stock springs... I don't know what you did, or what springs you bought, but that doesnt look lowered at all...

Go to my site in my sig, and you can see my car at stock height.

[carfreak]

I agree, my car almost looks lower and it is riding on stock springs... I don't know what you did, or what springs you bought, but that doesnt look lowered at all...

Go to my site in my sig, and you can see my car at stock height.

no dude. In person mine is way lower then yours. For some reason it looks a lot better in person.

here are more pics that maybe will help you see it better.

Before:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/501000-501999/501608_13_full.jpg
After:

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/501000-501999/501608_14_full.jpg

[Kevin]

how big are your wheels?? I have coilovers set where the front fenders slightly tuck the Si wheels.

[keruhas184]

On my car the driver side was noticeably lower than on the passenger side, for whatever reason. Dunno why or how to fix it.

Alex

Old thread, I know. But my passenger side is also noticebly higher than the driver's side... could this be because more of the engine's weight is on the driver's side? Or is it due to poor workmanship? It was installed at a local honda performance shop...

I'll take a pic of the gap difference in a bit....

[carfreak]

Old thread, I know. But my passenger side is also noticebly higher than the driver's side... could this be because more of the engine's weight is on the driver's side? Or is it due to poor workmanship? It was installed at a local honda performance shop...

I'll take a pic of the gap difference in a bit....

its been quite a while but i still have the same problem of the passenger side higher then the drivers side. i think you may be right about the weight ratio not being equal between the left and right side.

[keruhas184]

Some people suggested in other threads that the driver's side settled more because there wasn't much weight on the passenger side if you drive the car alone. Since my springs haven't totaly settled yet (i hope), I put 2 40lb bags of salt (cheapest weights i found) on the passenger side floor beside the seat. I'll have my car back at the shop that did the suspension in a few weeks, and I'll ask them to move the passenger side spring(s) to increase the drop a bit.

[mercerus]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/katietyler/c48fc11b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/katietyler/9e82591e.jpg

i know terrible pics but mine is dropped like 2" maybe more not sure now car has settled a lot after having them for over a year

[Busted_Blue]

whoa sudden flock of blue 4doors have been popping up lately. NICE!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/Photoshoot%2020040827/1445ba5d.jpg

makes my 1" drop look like stock. woot.

[keruhas184]

So...

After driving with my crooked springs for a few more months, as I checked on my minor brake issue today, I decided to take a closer look at how the springs and struts look on both sides...

Driver's side (this side sits lower):
http://keruh.com/3gz/spring_left.jpg

Passenger side (sits higher):
http://keruh.com/3gz/spring_right.jpg

So, I guess the shop that did the 'professional' installation didn't install the passenger side spring too well. Both sides already settled quite a bit, but the right side is still visibly higher.

My question is, can this spring be rotated by jacking that side (or the whole front so that the pressure is distributed evenly to the back) all the way up so that the passenger side spring extents all the way and has no weight on it? Can I then grab the spring and rotate it a bit more to the left so it sits all the way inside the strut groove? Or should I just take the car back to that shop and have them do it? Thanks.

[Busted_Blue]

My question is, can this spring be rotated by jacking that side (or the whole front so that the pressure is distributed evenly to the back) all the way up so that the passenger side spring extents all the way and has no weight on it? Can I then grab the spring and rotate it a bit more to the left so it sits all the way inside the strut groove? Or should I just take the car back to that shop and have them do it? Thanks.

TECHNICALLY you can. If the spring is fairly uncompressed like it wobbles when you jack up the front you can pivot it. If not..you should take it back to them and let them do it. It sucks that your spring perches arent lined with the spring. wth were they on when they installed your springs.. :shrugs:

[jonrichert]

Old thread, I know. But my passenger side is also noticebly higher than the driver's side... could this be because more of the engine's weight is on the driver's side? Or is it due to poor workmanship? It was installed at a local honda performance shop...

I'll take a pic of the gap difference in a bit....

maybe it is an issue with h&r's because my passenger side also sits about half an inch higher than the driver side in the front. i haven't checked to see how the springs are seated in the struts, but they were properly seated when they were installed on the car...

[HondaBoy]

damn, that was what i was going to suggest when you 1st posted the thread. too bad i didnt say anything. i remember this happening on a lot of my friends cars, where the coil wasnt set in the spot it was supposed to be. on the car shows you'll see on the weekends, i remember seeing the thing about rotating the coil into the pocket or stop point before you tighten everything down. possibley thats my problem also, the body shop put on the new suspension on the rear right, maybe they didnt put the coil on right. i'll have to look at mine also.

[joker2]

I can't remember because it's been like 3 years since I put my coilovers on but is there a left and right spring??? I don't believe there is so in that case all you have to do is switch the passenger side spring to the drivers side.... I was once told by a certified tech that a lot of times the drivers side springs will be a little higher because on the average, people drive alone, so most of the weight of the car is shifted to that side.... So hence, the drivers side tends to settle quicker than the passenger side but if the spring starts out a little higher, when the entire car settles than all four corners should be even.... :cool:

[bullard123]

I agree with everyone else. Don't get me wrong the car looks good but I think a 2in drop would look better on a sedan.

[jigga225]

yah man i'd be mad (like i was) cause I bought the s/t and it didn't look droppped...

[blazin3gen]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/katietyler/c48fc11b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/katietyler/9e82591e.jpg

i know terrible pics but mine is dropped like 2" maybe more not sure now car has settled a lot after having them for over a year


thats a perfect drop unlinke mine my shit is too slammed

http://img143.exs.cx/img143/5639/00024wa.jpg
http://img143.exs.cx/img143/7783/00034ze.jpg


even my accord drop was all wierd it was higher from the front then the rear

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/469000-469999/469022_52_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/469000-469999/469022_46_full.jpg