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86LXItooFAST4me
05-31-2004, 11:09 AM
has anyone looked at the ram air setup on like a 94 model TA? i was thinkin about useing that setup an the accord. looks like it would be easy to fab and just about any hood scoop would work, or even just cutting a slot in the front where the angle is on the tip of the hood. what do you think, possible? functional ram air is always nice.

86LXItooFAST4me
05-31-2004, 01:27 PM
no one has any input?

SharkyX
05-31-2004, 05:18 PM
could you post a pic of what your talking about?

DeathRat
05-31-2004, 05:21 PM
I myself was thinking of a CAI cold box where the battery presently is located. Air induction through a slim-line hood scoop on the hood directly behind the passenger headlamp. The battery would be re-located to the trunk area (say Spare Tire Well?).

Justin86
05-31-2004, 05:39 PM
Mike did that with his accord, but now he's running this dual intake piping for his Weber.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/322000-322999/322549_67.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/322000-322999/322549_43.jpg

86LXItooFAST4me
05-31-2004, 08:12 PM
a 94 model trans am (TA) firebird ram air, have you ever seen the setup under the hood? it looks like it would be easy to fit in the 3gee

grsmnky33
05-31-2004, 08:32 PM
the ram air effect you are looking for with the TA is a very bad setup for our cars because of the way the setup is on a Firebird.......... still has to make a 90 degree bend to make it to the intake. killing off any ram effect

DeathRat
06-01-2004, 06:06 AM
still has to make a 90 degree bend to make it to the intake. killing off any ram effect
Not true.
The air will still flow just as fast as long there is no restriction along that bend (IE: ripples, ridges, etc).

86LXItooFAST4me
06-01-2004, 06:19 AM
why would there be a 90 degree angle? i was thinkin a scoop in the front pass side, sorta what deathrat said but not through the head light, right next to the head light. ill try to work something up and make some blue print cuz i think it will work great. if you have seen the 94 model TA setup, looks like it will fit easily right next to the bat.

86LXItooFAST4me
06-01-2004, 06:20 AM
Mike did that with his accord, but now he's running this dual intake piping for his Weber.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/322000-322999/322549_67.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/10/web/322000-322999/322549_43.jpg

and it would be similar to that but more toward the front on the same side.

86LXItooFAST4me
06-04-2004, 12:05 PM
no comment? lol, I thought it was a good idea.

Robs89LXi
06-04-2004, 12:27 PM
It is a good idea, especially down here in hot-as-hell Texas. Only concern I would have is road debris. The problem is that in order to get a true ram air effect, you have to have an almost uninterupted flow of air. Well, if you get it into the direct flow, say from just beside the headlight, you are inviting dirt, bugs, water etc. into your intake. You would need a pretty good filter to screen all this, but then, you lose the ram air effect to a large extent. It's a trade off; good flow, but chance of debris, or good filtering, but loss of flow.

86LXItooFAST4me
06-04-2004, 12:45 PM
well the ram air filter on the TA looks like a pretty good one. i understand what your saying, but still a filtered ram air would have a greater effect than just a CAI and when you wanna run you could always just pop the hood and jerk the filter out for a few min :D im gonna look into in. anyone have an extra hood they could donate for the experiment? ill pay shipping, and if it work all post a how to. from what ive seen it looks very promising. my cuz has a 94 TA, i need to go get some measurement from that.

DeathRat
06-04-2004, 05:56 PM
I installed a custom Ram Air on my Bonneville a while back. I used 4" duct work & a reverse scoop. This allowed no dibris into the system. PLUS! The system itself was so powerful by itself, it could suck your hand in just by hitting the throttle too! I plan to do the same possibly on my Accord, except use a cold air box directly below the scoop.

speedpenguin
06-05-2004, 06:37 PM
interesting project, but personally, i think CAI would be better...
if i did that, i would do it with the cold air box like deathrat, but i wouldn't have to worry so much about debris with a CAI
or maybe i'm just retarded

86LXItooFAST4me
06-05-2004, 07:06 PM
your still getting debris from a could air, think about it, it sitting right next to the ground and its just a round filter. just the ram air is gotta little force around it. i mean your going to get a little more debris but i dont think that much more. i mean if it was that harmfull to the engine, why would GM put it oon the cars they make?? :D

speedpenguin
06-05-2004, 07:21 PM
cuz it's GM?? lol
i dunno
i'm still doing CAI unless ram air would me significantly cheaper

86LXItooFAST4me
06-06-2004, 04:17 AM
lol, im not going for cheaper. im going for performance and HP isnt cheap :D

unc25
06-06-2004, 07:02 AM
I thought about doing this same thing with my accord.

I currently have the civic air intake mod on my carb and I am going to move the battery to the trunk and then install an intake that reaches all the way to where the battery used to sit. I was thinking about throwing in an "Evo" side scoop to help give it the ram air effect. I dont have a pic of what I am talking about, so sorry if your lost.

HondaBoy
06-06-2004, 10:54 AM
personally, i wanted a somewhat slim old school turbo style scoop for a ram air type intake thing going on. i'm waiting till i get a new hood, although maybe i should try it out first on my old hood.

86LXItooFAST4me
06-07-2004, 11:34 AM
here you go peoples. this is where my great idea comes from :D

http://images.autotrader.com/images/2004/4/30/162/473/836777513.162473476.IM1.02.565x421_A.562x421.jpg
http://images.autotrader.com/images/2004/4/30/162/473/836777516.162473476.IM1.05.565x421_A.562x421.jpg

speedpenguin
06-07-2004, 06:16 PM
oh sweet jeezus that is cool

86LXItooFAST4me
06-07-2004, 08:38 PM
see what i mean now peoples?

86LXItooFAST4meIt looks promising

86LXItooFAST4me
06-07-2004, 08:39 PM
:bong: moment

Jims 86LXI HB
06-10-2004, 10:25 PM
I created a ram air intake system for my G35. I used the air box out of a K&N typhon 350Z intake system and fabbed it with sheetmetal to seal it. I then mounted the scoup in a high pressure zone in the front below the bumper. I had a Injen CAI, but went this route because I wanted a cold air intake that pressurise's. So long story short, it can be done I think, but I had more room to work with to be fair.

http://www.montypics.com/pic.php?url=/Gcoupe35/2004-04-19/1082439857_1188902_R1_072_34A.jpg

http://www.montypics.com/pic.php?url=/Gcoupe35/2004-04-19/1082439932_1188902_R1_070_33A.jpg

http://www.montypics.com/pic.php?url=/Gcoupe35/2004-04-20/1082441132_1188902_R1_034_15A_box1.jpg

http://www.montypics.com/pic.php?url=/Gcoupe35/2004-04-20/1082441087_1188902_R1_064_30A_scoop.jpg

HondaBoy
06-10-2004, 10:34 PM
hey jim, maybe im retarded or something, but that shot of the curved piping looks like PVC pipe. is it? gives me an idea.

infecto
06-11-2004, 12:08 PM
I havn't really read this but you could take this guys idea...lol

http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/ramair/ramair.htm

86LXItooFAST4me
06-11-2004, 12:18 PM
i dont like that one, i mean its a good idea but shit, birds and everything will be going up that thing lol.

truetune
06-13-2004, 05:07 PM
how about a hole cut in the top of the hood and an air filter sticking out the top

Micah 89LXi
06-14-2004, 12:05 AM
im gonna do this sometime this summer actually..i just got some loan checks in and im getting my car painted so why not paint the scoop to match and i wanted to do the intake/scoop ram air thing ever since i saw it on that one 3g...even if it isnt the most amazing performance mod i think it makes alot of sense...are those intakes pretty easy to install?...i am supposed to use the one from the 92 civic and cut it to fit correct?..what did you use to create the air box heat sheild thing around the filter?

86LXItooFAST4me
06-14-2004, 08:44 AM
here is the area im thinking of putting it and i think im just going to cut the slote out and maybe but a little lip around just to catch more air.





sorry about using your car andrew, just the first one i saw and the easiest to use as an example

DanLXI88
06-14-2004, 08:48 AM
It would look kind of off it it's only on the one side like that. I think it needs to be centered.

86LXItooFAST4me
06-14-2004, 08:57 AM
ive seen 350Z like that, i think it looks ok. but yea it is a little off. lol, ill put one on both sides and have duel ram air, :rofl: no but ill have to draw it out first and see if i like it. i think if anything it will work and give me a little more uniqueness :D

DanLXI88
06-14-2004, 09:21 AM
i think if anything it will work and give me a little more uniqueness :D
At the least :lol: I think you have a good idea and I can't wait to see more pics.

Micah 89LXi
06-14-2004, 11:40 PM
I thought about doing this same thing with my accord.

I currently have the civic air intake mod on my carb and I am going to move the battery to the trunk and then install an intake that reaches all the way to where the battery used to sit. I was thinking about throwing in an "Evo" side scoop to help give it the ram air effect. I dont have a pic of what I am talking about, so sorry if your lost.


if you have the room to put a scoop on the hood and one on the fender i think that would be sweet build one airbox around the whole thing.....personally im going to try it without moving battery to trunk because that kit is kinda pricey...or is it like $40 i dont remember now..maybe i should move the battery...but i was thinking take the intake around the front of the engine bay and put the scoop in the middle...but that is probably too many bends..i havent decided...im gonna get this jdm turbo scoop...and see how to best mount it..and that will determine my intake setup

A20A1
06-15-2004, 12:01 AM
how about a hole cut in the top of the hood and an air filter sticking out the top

That would be a bad idea...
It would seem that only part of the filter would get air ramed into it the rest of the air would be left swirling around it... and the drag created could possibly start adding resistance to the air trying to be sucked in thru the filter... thats just a theory though.
....
I like the idea of opening that area above the grill... problem is the radiator and radiator support get in the way and that area of the hood is extremly beefy... so cutting there would be a problem and would trun your hood to mush. :D
...
I had a hood scoop once that was not in the most pressurised part of the car.... so I made a 3" tall one just for grins... took it for a spin and the metal balloned cause it caught so much air... i had 2 heavy bolts holding the sheetmetal to the hood and large diameter washers to keep the metal from ripping away from the bolt heads.

those were the days...

A20A1
06-15-2004, 12:13 AM
It would look kind of off it it's only on the one side like that. I think it needs to be centered.

The boxier the car the better it looks off centered... I would have moved my scoop over more to be infrot of the passenger side, but the carb was more on the drivers side, plus I had that damn bulge in the hood to contend with... but if I had my way the scoop would be tall and be square on the passenger side.

Micah 89LXi
06-15-2004, 12:24 AM
i was thinking it might also need a funnel thing attached to the underside of the scoop directing the air to a smaller opening just bigger than the diameter of the filter...and still build the box around it to catch any excess from blowing into the engine bay...now im thinking that off center would work best...just one bend and straight into the manifold.

Micah 89LXi
06-15-2004, 08:05 AM
so again what did you guys use to make the airbox thing around the filter under the hood?

86LXItooFAST4me
06-15-2004, 08:20 AM
so again what did you guys use to make the airbox thing around the filter under the hood?

thats what we are contemplating on. im thinking the trans am filter assembly will fit. thats what the whole thread is about. which assembly or best way to get functional ram air.

Jims 86LXI HB
06-15-2004, 09:25 AM
hey jim, maybe im retarded or something, but that shot of the curved piping looks like PVC pipe. is it? gives me an idea.

It's not the usual PVC pipe. I used drain pipe fittings and actual drain pipe. Reason being, it's thinner then irrigation pipe/fittings and allow's for more air flow. Plus I had Zero extra space to spare. You can go to Lowes, the drain pipe fittings are kept where they have fittings for rain gutter drains and stuff. It's white plastic (I painted it satin black to match the plastic around the piping).

Micah 89LXi
06-16-2004, 06:59 AM
well if we could modify the ta filter assembly then i could use that mini JDM hood scoop i found...except i just bought an intake
..no i mean mike the guy who already did this he had a scoop and under the hood around the filter he built a box like an air heat shield to seal it off from the rest of the engine bay (im calling it the airbox) ...i was wondering what he used to make that box..because that would greatly decrease drag from air swirling around the filter...but seriously...ANYTHING is pretty much better than the stock plastic rubber crap it has now

86LXItooFAST4me
06-16-2004, 07:33 AM
it looks to me like he just used some thin plexie glass. looks good though.

Mike's89AccordLX
06-16-2004, 07:50 AM
It is a plexi-glass ram air box. And I built it so that the air would flow evenly around the filter. I have a small write up that I have not put on 3geez yet. I'm very busy and have little time to finish projects I want to so that's my first priority right now.

-Mike

86LXItooFAST4me
06-16-2004, 10:18 AM
hey mike, what did you use to conect the plexie? epoxy or what? or did you just use the screws?

86LXItooFAST4me
06-18-2004, 08:11 AM
MIKE! lol :bong:

Micah 89LXi
06-20-2004, 10:53 PM
seriously guys..i just got finished installing my new intake..after ripping out miles of crappy plastic tubing and tilting the battery sideways and pushing around some hoses....its finally in...ill take pics tomorrow...it sounds amazing and the difference is unbelievable...i dont even see how the engine breathed before...this is by far the best $35 ive ever spent..and yes i got the intake off ebay shipping and all for $35....go out...get one of these if you still have your stock..you will be amazed at the difference...i dont have access to a dyno yet but im working on it.

Micah 89LXi
06-20-2004, 10:54 PM
next comes the scoop/airbox...im stoked...the car actually accelerates now.

86LXItooFAST4me
06-23-2004, 06:58 AM
mike, could you explain how you made the plexie glass air box a little more as into how you fixed them together? it might be more easy and a little more flashy just to construct an air box solely on plexie glass.