interesting facts about the 3g

[lightbulblxi]

i was wondering if anyone had any interesting facts about the 3g that they wanted to share. like, wasnt it the first family sedan in the US to have double wishbone suspension or somethin like that?

[k-roy]

They are all slow, thats not new or interesting though.

The 3rd gen Accord was the first full production run at the Marysville, Ohio plant. That plant is the first in the US to produce RHD and LHD on the same assembly line.

[maka_RTH]

the 3g is the only accord to ever have flip-up headlights

[ICEMAN707]

ummm only honda i know of that frikin' has bad engine vibrations at idle!?!?!? it's frikin' annoying and pisses me off. if you have 5 spd, you don't really feel it cus you release the clutch or have the gear in neutral, but if you have auto you feel the steering wheel vibrate like crazy at idle. worn engine mounts they say? well, even after replacing them you still feel it. like the crank was never balanced from the factory or something. all i can say is, engine swap?

[deadlight]

I believe the stock ride height for a 3rd gen Accord is the same as a Mk. III Supra, don't know if you'd call that interesting or not.

[blazin3gen]

a 3gee is a poor mans car :D

now that is interesting :D

[accordlxi2.0]

the first to have lock one lock all feature.
the first to come out with smpefi injection.
first when you have the driver door opened, and try to lock it won't, prevent from locking keys inside, i guess.

one thing i hate though is every car company had efi, while on the dx/lx was carb.

[skull1441]

no mater how hard i drive this thing.... it wont vreakin break !!!! i always reach high RPMs b4 i shift .... PHEW man... it takes the beating and i got 192 k on it right now

[Not like a rock]

Are there any other sedans in the North American market with flip up lights?

[slowazz86carb]

dam.im still thinking about that RHD deal.

[accordlxi2.0]

so far all the 3g i've seen had flip up lights.
skull ya just now realizing that now, lol.
my 86 lx had over 225000mi. on it.
and i drove it hard everyday, rarly in winter,though.
that's another reason why i bought another one.

[Oyvind Ryeng]

The 3rd gen Accord was the first full production run at the Marysville, Ohio plant.
You guys are _so_ owned. Mine's made in Sayama, Japan. I actually drool over the fact that real Japanese people have designed and built my car. It gives me this warm, fuzzy feeling inside, like when you are in love.

Btw, mine's also taking alot of beating, but it _just_ _won't_ _break_! Got to love the fantastic build quality.

[Bloodlust]

Well you know ur a 3g owner if u use the ebrake and side of the passenger's side seat as a cupholder. I guess thats an interesting fact.

[accordlxi2.0]

uhhh my 86 lx was made in japan . . . . .
i'll admit just like you DAMN those can take a beating.
but my 88 lx, was made in OHIO BABY!
AMERICAN IMPORT!
but i still don't see the difference, it's STILL A HONDA.
and honda knew what he was doing . . . . . . .

[Silver86LX]

My '86 and '89 were both made in Japan. I guess I just lucked out on that one.

[maka_RTH]

Well you know ur a 3g owner if u use the ebrake and side of the passenger's side seat as a cupholder. I guess thats an interesting fact.

too true. it's actually pretty handy. it's like "well.., since we won't put cupholders in the LX-i's and lower, we'll make it so between the e-brake and seat can be a makeshift cupholder". it's almost a perfect fit :idea:

[Not like a rock]

Well you know ur a 3g owner if u use the ebrake and side of the passenger's side seat as a cupholder. I guess thats an interesting fact.

Amen. It's like it was meant to be.

[od2681]

boom boom japan...mine is from japan..lol.
nothing interesting but hey i dont have to do a jdm conversion

[ICEMAN707]

the 3gee and 2gee are the only accord models to ever come in a hatch, 1990 and up ones became more family-like and they were available in wagon form. gotta hand it to the 3gee though, the only 16 yr. old car that still runs very good if well maintained. whenever i drive my 3geez and stop next to an early 90 to late 90's domestic car at a red light, my car sounds way better. hell even some newer domestics sound like crap already.

[Elijah]

Amen. It's like it was meant to be.

I thought I was the only one to do that.LOL

[howndamane]

lol i do it too...only thing is ill always slam it in reverse then hit the brakes hard n my drink will go all in the backseat....done that a few times so i try n not use it too much

[blazin3gen]

the 3gee and 2gee are the only accord models to ever come in a hatch, 1990 and up ones became more family-like and they were available in wagon form. gotta hand it to the 3gee though, the only 16 yr. old car that still runs very good if well maintained. whenever i drive my 3geez and stop next to an early 90 to late 90's domestic car at a red light, my car sounds way better. hell even some newer domestics sound like crap already.

1st gen was a hatch too!

1st gen to 3rd gen were the only hatches, the fact is that the 3rd gen hatch was the sexiest :D

and was a ae86 wanna be lmao

[88accordhb]

and was a ae86 wanna be lmao
i thinkk soo!

gen 2 had hatch.

one interesting thing about the 3g is that they're phat! like yo mammas. i don't kno

[Ludi Mali]

Well you know ur a 3g owner if u use the ebrake and side of the passenger's side seat as a cupholder. I guess thats an interesting fact.


I actually found a cup holder laying on the side of the road once, just a small rectangle with 2 cup holders, it fit perfectly between the seats and under the e-brake, that is until someone stole it

[ag bullet]

Well you know ur a 3g owner if u use the ebrake and side of the passenger's side seat as a cupholder. I guess thats an interesting fact.

I don't have that problem in my SEi :dunno:

[blazin3gen]

I don't have that problem in my SEi :dunno:


also dont have that prob in my lxi :D bruahahaha

[smufguy]

1. has a drag coeff of 0.34
2. last accord to have cast-iron block
3. first family sedan to use 4 wheel independant double wishbone set up derived from a formula one racing
4. last accord to use dinky 13" rims (hahaha, cause 13" have always been a downfall)

[accordlxi2.0]

umm sorry for sounding like a noob, but is that good, cause if i can remember a 90 grandprix had the same one . . . . .

[smufguy]

had the same what?

[johndej]

damn that ebreak cup holder thing works just as good as any and i'll agree w/ Blazin that the hatches are deffinatly the sexiest

[88accordhb]

i'll agree w/ Blazin that the hatches are deffinatly the sexiest
you are 100...no 2000 percent correct. :)

[maka_RTH]

some more interesting stuff: http://www.pauldesign.ru/honda/about.html

[lightbulblxi]

orinally posted by maka RTH
some more interesting stuff


"damn according to that link, the accord lx-s/lxr-s/exl-s/ex-l in japan came withh a b18, i never knew that.

[k-roy]

"damn according to that link, the accord lx-s/lxr-s/exl-s/ex-l in japan came withh a b18, i never knew that.
Too bad its not the Integra B18 :thumbdown
There is also an A16 version somewhere. I bet that bitch revs high.

[Busted_Blue]

SEi was the first american built accord
LXi 4doors had sunroofs standard and was from the plant. The other models, sunroofs were installed after the car was built.

[accordlxi2.0]

smufguy:: had the same coeff 0.34 as the 90 grand prix.
plus the 3g was the first to have the adjustable seatbelt thingy's on the pillar.
i just noticed that tonite.
the first to have the brake light out feature.

[89ACCORDLXiDAD]

A 3G was used in the movie Rumble In The Bronx starring Jackie Chan. Chan was being chased by thugs on foot in traffic when he came face to face with a red 3G. He ran up the hood and dove into the open sunroof. The thugs drove their dirt bikes up the hood,windshield,onto the roof over the sunroof and back down the rear deck. From the brief shot of it -the 3G looked OK...

[howndamane]

Too bad its not the Integra B18 :thumbdown
There is also an A16 version somewhere. I bet that bitch revs high.

:werd:

[epic1400cs]

Compare to 2G, the height of the bonnet is 10 cm (4 inch) lower to maximise the view from the driving seat. This is one reason 3G has double wishbone suspension instead of mcphason strut which need certain height in design.

The California Honda design team wanted 4 door sedan, 2 door coupe and 3 door hatch because they didn't want to change the image of 2G Accord which was big success for Honda at that time. (In fact honda at that time was just before bankrupt.) Japan Honda design team wanted 4 door sedan and 3 door Aerodeck (looks like Civic 3 door hatch) cos in Japan 2G accord was a total disaster and wanted to give totally new image to the buyers. Those two teams did not agree to each other over the 3 door design and had nasty bloody argument and dispute over and over. Finally the president of Honda Mr. Kume at that time became bored of it and said 'Pack up, go home and do what ever you want then'. So we have 3 door hatch in two different style. I have read this in my bible. Thanks Mr Kume - I love my Aerodeck!

[MilTownSHO]

They are all slow, thats not new or interesting though.



:rofl:

[AccordEpicenter]

double wishbone kicks SERIOUS suspension ass.. its better than most of the current honda offerings esp in the civic platform

[Oyvind Ryeng]

Yeah, I love DW. I like to brag about it to my MacPerson equipped friends. One day my 3G will ride around with tubular arms everywhere in the suspension. I just hate the pressed-steelplates that are welded to each other.

[AccordEpicenter]

i hate macpherson struts...

[accordlxi2.0]

well compared to the 86-87 accord and 88-89 not only the 88-89 have upgraded the body but's it's about 2 inches wider than the 86-87.
i kinda new that cause the 88-89 felt bigger . . .

[epic1400cs]

well compared to the 86-87 accord and 88-89 not only the 88-89 have upgraded the body but's it's about 2 inches wider than the 86-87.
Wow that a news. I thought 86-87 and 88-89 body panels are swappable. Do you know which part of the body is wider than 86-87?

[accordlxi2.0]

the whole car basically, they're still swapable but the bumper will look wider than the car maybe.
i only know that the one's here in the u.s. are like that.

[accordlxi2.0]

i don't know if this is true . .

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18308&item=2485106393&rd=1

and check out the engine on this accord . .
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18206&item=2485138813&rd=1

[accordlxi2.0]

oh also ,the 88-89 is about 2 inches longer than the 86-87.

so not only they made some body change's, but they made it about 2 inches wider and longer?! oh man!!

[epic1400cs]

Sorry guys, its about Aerodeck again... From Japanese point of view....

When they were released in Japan, the 3G Accord 4D sedan was big success but Aerodeck was a commercial failure. Its design, concept was great but was a bit too progressive for Japanese consumers - they are relatively conservative so they don't prefer to drive a car which draw attention in town. So Aerodeck became like ghost - you hardly see them.

But after 10 years, the Aerodeck become very popular among young people - 'Otaku' or 'Mania' thing you know - and in late 90's some people have bought dead stock brand new Aerodeck which cost more than the original retail price. Mad.

The Accord Coupe is US only model at the start of its sales and many Japanese people wanted them. So Honda started to 'import' US coupe to Japan after a while. I was intrigued by this idea 'imported' Honda from US but majority of the Japanese Honda fans went crazy about it. For Japanese it was (and 'is' may be) important that it was from abroad so they have left hand steering opposed to right hand steering which is standard in Japan.

There is unwritten agreement in Japan. When you meet somebody who has 3G Accord Coupe, first of all you must say 'Oh my goodness whaat a rare car you own sir!'

[DarknessRS]

JDM stuff:

The Accord was also sold as a Vigor. It came with options like electronic climate control, keyless entry (http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/ACCORD/1985-E/ac85-I-027.html), seat warmers, rear winshield wiper, digital instrumentation (http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/ACCORD/1985-E/ac85-I-020.html), map lights (http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/ACCORD/1985-E/ac85-I-030.html)

[epic1400cs]

I had a 3G with climate control before. It was great - you set the temp with dial and thats it! I still miss it.

[epic1400cs]

Oh, and there was retarctable fog light as an OEM optional parts for 3G 86-87 model in Japan. There is a light cover in front of the fog light lens and when you switch the light on, the cover moves up. So you can say retractable light cover rathar than retractable fog light though.....

Other option I liked was electric corner pole. There is a retractable (at that time it was very important that everything was 'retractable') pole installed on the passenger side corner of the front bumper. When you park your car, you elect it (not yours) then you can recognize the edge of the bumper so that park your car without your bumper scratch agant other cars.

[accordlxi2.0]

damn honda was way ahead of time, so basically the domestic took the idea's from the import's.

[dub88acc]

Also the 3geez was the last carbureted Honda or I think the last carbureted car. Since nost cars in 1990 and on are FI. Also if any one has seen the untouchables rap video they actually fit like six people in the car and two of them are fat. That you goota say about the accord, it is wide and spacious compared to some compact cars now.

[accordlxi2.0]

THE last car to have a carb was a subaru justy the last car to have it in 1990.
but was the last carb honda.

[Micah 89LXi]

it wont fit a small cup from wendys and it wont fit a huge cup from taco bell...good thing i never have to use the e-brake...lol.....the fact that mine should have exploded by now is a good indication that honda makes a solid car

[Micah 89LXi]

does anyone else wink their lights at other 3geez?...just tap the headlight retractor switch next to your dimmer without depressing it and your lights will wink...its trippy if you see it down the road...i do this all the time

[Micah 89LXi]

okay blinked...sorry...i wish i knew how to make it wink..i would soo make a button

[Not like a rock]

well, if one headlight motor is faster than the other, and you keep mashing the button like a girl playing Street Fighter, the flip ups will get out of sync. (one up, one down). It looks trippy but you will probly break something.

[accordlxi2.0]

for real you guy's what is so hot about pop-up's on a 3g?
i mean how come we don't have stationarie's head light's???????

[k-roy]

Also the 3geez was the last carbureted Honda or I think the last carbureted car.
There was a carbureated F18 in a 4th gen accord, not in the US though.
It was not the last carbed car either, Ive seen carbs from the early 90s.

[Glowin Smurff]

i 2 thought i was one of the only ones to use that space as a cup holder.

[MIK3]

Haha. I've gotta try that cup holder thing. And yeah, every once in a while, I think about doing that blink to other 3geez out there. The only thing is that all the other 3gee drives out here in AZ treat they're 3geez like crap, almost not wanting me to acknowlege that they have a 3gee. It's quite sad. I was wondering if there is any interesting fact about how our hubcaps are bolted to the wheel itself for safety issues. Is this a first or last or anything?

[johndej]

yeah, most people treat their 3geez like shit, but there are the dedicated few (us members on 3geez) who see how good of cars these are.

[epic1400cs]

yeah, most people treat their 3geez like shit, but there are the dedicated few (us members on 3geez) who see how good of cars these are.
Funny fact is that those people who knows about the car understands that 3G Accord was advanced and sensational at that time. When I see a rad who don't know about our car well and was lude to it, I asked if he knew what the double wishbone is. I told him that it is identical system as Jaguars and F1 machines but his macpharson strut is for school bus, then he became quiet.

[deadlight]

There was a carbureated F18 in a 4th gen accord, not in the US though.
It was not the last carbed car either, Ive seen carbs from the early 90s.

Yep, I believe certain trim levels of Camaros were still carbureted until 92, I know there are a few TPI 350's, but those are few and far between, all the 305 RS Models were carbed IIRC.

[accordlxi2.0]

oh yea i posted those.
i was shocked.
sometime's i treat my car bad, but i make up for it.

[epic1400cs]

JDM B20A with alloy block produces 160 bhp and its weight is 122 Kg. This means 0.76 Kg per 1 bhp and was most efficient weight/power ratio engine in the world at that time.

[accordlxi2.0]

seem's like honda is more sophisticated than it seem's.

[epic1400cs]

Its off topic but Honda is only the car manufacturer which owns F1 racing circuit (Suzuka).

[k-roy]

Its off topic but Honda is only the car manufacturer which owns F1 racing circuit (Suzuka).
Honda also owns the Mid Ohio roadcourse. CART, AMA SUperbike, IMSA (RIP), SCCA NAtionals, and the American LeMans leagues all race there.
www.midohio.com
They also have a kickass driving school.

[smufguy]

Honda also owns the Mid Ohio roadcourse. CART, AMA SUperbike, IMSA (RIP), SCCA NAtionals, and the American LeMans leagues all race there.
www.midohio.com
They also have a kickass driving school.

i was about to say the same thing. AMA superbike was just blasted by honda with honda in the top 3 and one time it was a consecutive first three places and in the other consecutive 2nd to 4th place. Its a name honda has made and found ways to keep it. Respect!!

[bullard123]

Man you guys are doing some good research. I still think its amazing how Honda was so ahead of the automotive game back then. I think they should upgrade all of our accords with the new navigation systems you find in the new accords. That will be cool.

[accordlxi2.0]

they did, there was one post about that, the accord in japan was relly loaded.
damn i wanna japan 3g :(