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Wipeout
08-17-2004, 08:48 AM
Shifting at 6500 from first to second and second to third the tires chirp pretty well. The tires are BF Goodrich Comp T/As, P195/60R15. I have a carbed Accord with a few mods. Who else can do this? It came as a surprise to me. My clutch is going out, too. :P

Speaking of that, I have a friend with a not-quite-stock Eldorado ETC and the traction control kicks on after every shift.

..but for an old Honda, this is pretty nice!

SteveDX89
08-17-2004, 09:06 AM
I dunno. I find this hard to believe. I couldn't even chirp 2nd gear with my carbed A20.

Sabz5150
08-17-2004, 09:13 AM
I dunno. I find this hard to believe. I couldn't even chirp 2nd gear with my carbed A20.

Sidestep it going into 2nd. I've only done this ONCE, and it definitely worked.

PortugalFocus
08-17-2004, 09:15 AM
:bs: flag is up.......

NXRacer
08-17-2004, 09:22 AM
:bs: flag is up.......
yeah im having a hard time believing that. I'd say quite a few mods would have to be done to do that.

88accordalltheway
08-17-2004, 09:34 AM
i cant get my tires to spin ever, its bull, sorry newb, i dont believe this.

shepherd79
08-17-2004, 11:15 AM
i call it BS. i bet your tires are bold.
when i had my carbed accord. with vacuum lines removed, full exhaust, and ignition upgraded, i could even chirp in 2nd gear. and i had brindstones potenza tires.

PortugalFocus
08-17-2004, 11:23 AM
put some donuts up front and i bet you can chirp them in 2-3 shift then.

:edit:

I have a DOHC Focus 5 speed with CAI, Cat-back 2.25" + Flowmaster, Helix Throttle Body Spacer, Iridium Plugs, 205/50/15 Falken Azenis and removed resonator... I can't chirp 2-3, I can only sometimes chirp 1-2.......

thanks for the fake post to up your post count though. :)

sccrsteve5
08-17-2004, 11:32 AM
i can chirp my auto lx in 1st only...(of course it is an auto) but i couldn't see a carber chirping in 3rd either...

Moodybluesr
08-17-2004, 11:36 AM
If the car is quite a bit out of alignment then one of the front tire's contact patch may be small enough to cause a chirp under hard acceleration into third gear. This, of course, is not a good thing.

AccordAddict
08-17-2004, 11:57 AM
ive chirped second in my auto.

DLB
08-17-2004, 12:05 PM
I think it is possible with really bald tires. I chirped 2nd with bald tires.(in a manual). Diffenitley not in an auto.

AccordAddict
08-17-2004, 12:14 PM
my tires arent completely bald but there isnt much tread left but like 3-4 mm's left. lol

hondamanlxi
08-17-2004, 12:21 PM
not chirping second is driver error! i have a 240sx thats damn capable of chirping second!(how many times have i done this... 4)
88 lx 4door ( i/h/e/no emission/ignition)on 205/50/zr16 chirp second on command
89 lxi 2door 5spd(stock) on 195/60/14 or on 205/45/zr17 chirps just fine into second and ONCE into third while turning so its possible

AccordEpicenter
08-17-2004, 12:35 PM
my clutch is so so, but i chirp second all the time, 3rd i cant because the clutch wont hold, if i had a stiffer clutch i could chirp third all day long.

SteveDX89
08-17-2004, 01:06 PM
put some donuts up front and i bet you can chirp them in 2-3 shift then.

:edit:

I have a DOHC Focus 5 speed with CAI, Cat-back 2.25" + Flowmaster, Helix Throttle Body Spacer, Iridium Plugs, 205/50/15 Falken Azenis and removed resonator... I can't chirp 2-3, I can only sometimes chirp 1-2.......

thanks for the fake post to up your post count though. :)

Only sometimes the 1-2 shift. I can chirp 2nd at will, almost breaks traction. Zetec > VTEC :ugh:

Mike's89AccordLX
08-17-2004, 01:17 PM
Well there's only one way to find out. Adam you have to show me this. My yokohamas are too sticky to be chirping in 3rd gear. I can chirp into 3rd with my prelude and I have sticky tires on that too :)

-Mike

k-roy
08-17-2004, 01:21 PM
I can chirp going into 3rd with minor mods on my LX. Its nothing crazy but its still a chirp. And yes I can get a whitness to attest.

MrBen
08-17-2004, 02:46 PM
I can chirp in First and Second.

Who cares?

jonrichert
08-17-2004, 06:52 PM
the chirping sound is probably your clutch slipping

howndamane
08-17-2004, 06:59 PM
ive chirpped...in a firebird? chirping in 3rd is ridiculous for a 3gee unless you come out here and prove it to me theres nooooo way.

A20A1
08-17-2004, 06:59 PM
I dunno. I find this hard to believe. I couldn't even chirp 2nd gear with my carbed A20.

Once the fuel flows right it's no problem...

dXsquared
08-17-2004, 07:31 PM
hmm... u guys must be shitty drivers... i could chirp second and third in the accord with EASE...

i could get rubber and smoke in first and second... i only had weber, header, full exhaust, prelude distributor and new clutch...

and a prelude tranny... i guess that makes a big difference cuz its geared alot lower than the DX tranny

Travis

MattsAccord
08-17-2004, 07:40 PM
I can chirp into second with my 17's on. With cat back, short ram intake, and a few little things. I did it a few times at the track but can't do it very often on the street. :dunno:

EDIT : 5 Speed

AccordAddict
08-17-2004, 07:40 PM
do all of you have autos or 5 speeds? cuz it can easily chirp if you are popping the clutch with a 5 speed.

Busted_Blue
08-17-2004, 10:23 PM
hmm...i cant chirp with my 5spd sedan. Maybe because my clutch slipps when i shift fast.. -_- And I aint a shitty driver.

Oyvind Ryeng
08-18-2004, 01:05 AM
What is a "chirp"? Is it just a brief whine or melting the tires while bouncing off the revlimiter?

A20A1
08-18-2004, 01:32 AM
sound from tires breaking loose from loss of traction... when shifting.

deadlight
08-18-2004, 01:49 AM
I've only chirped 3rd once, and that's with 220hp.

PortugalFocus
08-18-2004, 09:26 AM
Only sometimes the 1-2 shift. I can chirp 2nd at will, almost breaks traction. Zetec > VTEC :ugh:

have you seen my tires?

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/3/web/447000-447999/447960_52_full.jpg

if you can chip 2-3 with these you better be bringing some good power at the wheels.

keruhas184
08-18-2004, 09:53 AM
I rode in Steve's car last weekend. That car can chirp second all day long :D

Wood9669
08-18-2004, 08:39 PM
i can chirp 3rd from a stop if i ride the clutch and have it revd to 8k lol

im callin BS on the 3g accord chiprin 2nd to 3rd.

k-roy
08-18-2004, 09:40 PM
im callin BS on the 3g accord chiprin 2nd to 3rd.
Its not hard if your car is tuned. Shit ocassionally I can get a faint bit of a chirp in 4th.

AccordAddict
08-20-2004, 06:08 PM
My dad's prelude chirps in all gears, he has a 5 speed.

Raduque
08-23-2004, 11:08 AM
Hey, Oyvind, the "chirp" noise these guys are talking about, is an "erp!"-type noise when shifting. My accord can do it from a take off a lot and I've done it once from 1-2.

SteveDX89
08-23-2004, 02:55 PM
have you seen my tires?


if you can chip 2-3 with these you better be bringing some good power at the wheels.

Oh damn. No way I'd chirp 2-3 on those. I didn't know you have them monsters on there. BTW, I raced a Focus ZX3 the other week and spanked him pretty bad.

deadlight
08-23-2004, 04:25 PM
My dad's prelude chirps in all gears, he has a 5 speed.

Sorry, don't believe that for a second. What is it a 10 second car?

AccordAddict
08-23-2004, 07:30 PM
ah.. well maybe i was a little scarcastic about that, but i remember him saying that he raced a civic and tore the civic to hell and he chirped 3rd and maybe 4th i dun remember though, i'll ask him sometime. hes got a '95 stickshift prelude

Kevin
08-23-2004, 08:19 PM
Ok-I have a 87 lxi with SI wheels and a stock clutch and chirp 3rd when racing. So what?? It all depends on how you shift and how fast you shift!! I didnt even know i was chirping 3rd until my budd i was racing told me!! At the topend of 2nd you really cant hear a whole lot in my car!! :)

Wipeout
09-01-2004, 08:42 AM
3/4 of you are calling BS and 1/4 of you are saying you've done it. Ridiculous. My clutch doesn't hold at all into third anymore (after putting it in gear the revs just float until I let off the gas) otherwise I'd get video of it. If you want I'll record a good 1-2 chirp.. I can still do that with a cold clutch. I'm not the kind of person that spreads BS and don't want to come off this way to the forum.

For the record, I've driven an '02 Focus 5spd and it didn't chirp into second. What a slow ass car that was.. :p

Actually, I just thought of this. My suspension is real soft in the rear because of leaky struts.. that's probably why I can/could chirp into third. The rear of the car squats a lot when I shift and it doesn't look like there is much weight on the front tires.

So there you "BS flag" people go.. I guess I'm not saying every Accord that doesn't bounce like a Cadillac (like mine) can wildly leave 100 foot tire marks into third.. but a normal Accord should definitely be able to chirp the tires into second. Didn't they come with crap 185s? When my car had a mostly bald Pirelli P300 on the front right and some bald Cooper on the left (both 185s), the tires would spin and the tach would float for a second before I got traction on the 1-2 shift. It made the car look way, way faster than it was. I probably run 18s.

I raced an '02 Focus ZTS auto to 100 and won, though.

Whatever. The Accord is my winter beater and I bought it for $30. I'm not saying it's a sweet car. It's slow as hell and makes no power.. but don't be so quick to call BS.

johndej
09-01-2004, 11:42 AM
this is for real, no shit, i saw a GSR teg chirp 4th last night. i was walking down port republic road looking off the overpass over 81 near the JMU campus and the teg was going down to merg into 81 and he ran it hard from a stoplight. he didn't spin at all in 1st, chirped loud into 2nd and 3rd and then i could hear a faint (yet still one) chirp when he hit 4th (the guy was kinda far away from me at that point) and was like "oh shit, thats crazy". he then proceded to just fly past all the traffic on the highway and was gone w/then a few sec (prob going atleast 100 as he left sight)

88LXi68
09-01-2004, 12:36 PM
Who the fuck cares about chirping tires?!?! I am more concerned about tires hooking!

SteveDX89
09-01-2004, 12:46 PM
Who the fuck cares about chirping tires?!?! I am more concerned about tires hooking!

Word to that.

PortugalFocus
09-01-2004, 12:48 PM
Who the fuck cares about chirping tires?!?! I am more concerned about tires hooking!

Amen..... Chirping tires really means nothing. If I wanted to chip tires I would have gotten 4 for $100 deal at Pep Boys and had fun for an afternoon.

AccordEpicenter
09-01-2004, 01:01 PM
exactly... i can chirp 3rd in my 5g accord stock... the 3g is still faster tho

Cloak86
09-01-2004, 01:30 PM
I can heel-toe it from 1-2 and chirp with my LXi motor and my lightweight rims....But idunno about a carbed 3g from 2-3.....that sounds a bit sketchy....

Low Tek
09-01-2004, 01:54 PM
I can do it.. but mine is te LX-i... but not from 2-3 tires are to sticky for that. but yea. I want hook up, not chirp.. lol

Oyvind Ryeng
09-02-2004, 01:30 AM
I can heel-toe it from 1-2 and chirp with my LXi motor and my lightweight rims....
You are aware that the heel-toe teqnique is used for revmatching on the downshift? The heel is on the gas, and the toe is on the brake. I for one usually don't use the brake when I'm trying to accellerate.

As many of you have pointed out, chirping is really not good for anything; if you wanna chirp, just keep holding the gas to the bottom when you shift, this is called FTS, or "flat throttle shifting".

88LXi68
09-02-2004, 06:38 AM
You are aware that the heel-toe teqnique is used for revmatching on the downshift? The heel is on the gas, and the toe is on the brake. I for one usually don't use the brake when I'm trying to accellerate.


:werd:

night
09-02-2004, 10:10 AM
i could spin the shit outta 2nd, but didnt really try third. ive already broken 2 clutches b4.

at the track i could not launch above 1800rpm, id spin like mad. best 60ft was a 2.212ish. and all that was on the rims in the pic.
i know 100% i could have spun stock tires in third :D. but oh well, no more iron block for me. then again i do have this 87 hatch....

and btw, our pedals are shit for heel 'n toe. the brake pedal is too far above the gas. im gonna look at a way to fix that in my lude later. but mostly cuz i hate the damn sole of shoe getting cought under the pedal when i go to brake.

Wipeout
09-02-2004, 11:59 PM
I'm not saying that I would prefer to lose traction if I actually raced this car seriously and wanted it to be fast. If I wanted it to be fast I'd throw a Caddy V8 in it like I did to the Fiero. lol. Speaking of the Fiero, it's gonna be back from Kansas in a few weeks and if you guys want I'll get some video if me launching it. Nothing except 4wd and AWD launch harder than mid engine RWD. I won't lie, I've been too lazy to go out and video a 1-2 shift so far.

P.S. nothing says wheelspin better than my friend's '89 CRX with a built B16A on 185s :D

88LXi68
09-03-2004, 05:11 AM
I'm not saying that I would prefer to lose traction if I actually raced this car seriously and wanted it to be fast. If I wanted it to be fast I'd throw a Caddy V8 in it like I did to the Fiero. lol. Speaking of the Fiero, it's gonna be back from Kansas in a few weeks and if you guys want I'll get some video if me launching it. Nothing except 4wd and AWD launch harder than mid engine RWD. I won't lie, I've been too lazy to go out and video a 1-2 shift so far.

P.S. nothing says wheelspin better than my friend's '89 CRX with a built B16A on 185s :D


Thats the truth!! My friend who is on Fiero.nl used to have a 86 GT automatic w/ juice and that thing launched like crazy.

Wipeout
09-04-2004, 12:31 AM
Those little cars hook like mad. I'm gonna have to be careful easing onto the throttle with my current 205s on the back but it should still look like it's coming out of a slingshot :D

The transmission will be modded to shift much firmer than stock Cadillacs, so with these tires it'll for sure chirp the tires until I get some wider ones.

Oh yeah, my friend gave me the remote for my Honda's car alarm. It's a ghetto Bulldog one that talks to you. If you hit the panic button it screams "Help me! Please help me!" in a woman's voice. If you get too close to the car for a certain amount of time it says "you are too close the vehicle". If you jump on the car or open a door while the alarm is set it yells "vehicle has been tampered with! Vehicle has been tampered with!" and it tells me "system engaged" and "system disengaged". I also got a uniwiper which I will put on A.S.A.P.

P.S. someone should really explain how you use heel and toe when you're upshifting. :p That's like on Fast and the Furious where Vin Diesel says "granny shifting, not double clutching like you should". I am pretty good at heel and toe when downshifting around corners and stuff, though. :)

88accordhb
09-04-2004, 06:58 AM
yadiyadiyady.

Wipeout
09-11-2004, 05:31 PM
Here you go. This is with a warm clutch (after I'd been driving around town for almost an hour). If you listen real closely you can hear the 2-3 chirp.

http://www.teamcaf.org/upload/honda/Honda-Third-Gear-Chirp.avi

At the end I show you my tires. Good tread on BF Goodrich Comp T/As P195/60R15

maka_RTH
09-12-2004, 12:30 AM
the faster you can shift the more likely you are to chirp your tires, cuz you'll still be at a higher rpms when power goes to the wheels. with a good clutch i can chirp second all day long. i don't know that i've chirped 3rd, but i think that my 2dr(before i blew my engine...) with a good clutch may have been able to do it. although with good tires(like real sticky ones) i'd say a 2nd gear chirp would be hard. all depends on the speed of the shift, tires, suspension, and obviously power output of the car.

Wipeout
09-12-2004, 02:43 PM
Yeah, I can shift pretty fast, as you can see in the video. Turn the sound up and listen to the 1-2 shift. I shift at 6300 and the tires more than chirped.
So there's your proof. :)

My friend's N/A CRX roasts the tires on the 1-2 shift if he's not careful, and it chirps fourth.

accordlxi2.0
09-12-2004, 03:25 PM
i say cut em some slack, i belive that shock situation, remember it's a front wheel drive car, then that acceleration squat.

plus on my 86 i could peel out from 1-2, alot of thing's probably contribute to it.
the tire's 205/50-r15, my tools in the trunk, plus the mod's i've done.
beside's i seen the vid. ya brake light sensor is on.
way 2 go homey!!

liked how it kicked in!!!

Mike's89AccordLX
09-12-2004, 05:15 PM
Hell yeah sporting the rims I gave him! Those rims are pretty light too. Good job man. Maybe we'll have to go cruisin around town some weekend. I need a better fuel pump though.

Wipeout
09-12-2004, 08:32 PM
Yeah Mike was nice enough to donate a set of rims and tires to someone who needed them :D

Mike did I ever tell you how after I took off my old Pirellis, there were a couple spots where the threads were showing? :O

Once I get the Fiero back we will definitely have to cruise around town :P

A20A1
09-12-2004, 10:20 PM
Nice vid, I'm gonna try and collect all the accord vids on a computer... I tried to get mine on a mac but for some reason it doesn't recongnize the file... I changed it to avi and mpg and mpeg and all that but it just doesn't work, I need to open it up to make it playable on a DVD.

I remember an old vid of a black car and some guy yelling "GO" they were in a parking lot or something, all the guy did was try to burn out durrng the launch, then did a u turn and came back.

Wipeout
09-13-2004, 10:30 AM
Well my Accord is nothing special, but I have a few fun/funny videos and some pics of it in various stages of working/nonworkingness:
http://www.teamcaf.org/upload/honda

I have some videos of me racing various people. You wanna see 'em?
LOL I have one of Luke in the built B16 CRX vs. a 3.1L Corsica. He's like a mile behind at the end of the race.

accordlxi2.0
09-13-2004, 10:39 AM
dude a corsica . . . . .

i mean it's not so hard to belive, i mean i did'nt think i could could beat some these newer cars out here, but with hard work+dedication+money= big ass pay off!

Wipeout
09-13-2004, 10:48 AM
It's really dark and you can't see the tach or speedo.

http://www.teamcaf.org/upload/honda/Luke-CRX-Kyle-Corsica.avi

Oh yeah in case that was unclear, I am videoing from the passenger seat of the CRX, and the CRX won by a mile.

maka_RTH
10-03-2004, 11:01 PM
Here you go. This is with a warm clutch (after I'd been driving around town for almost an hour). If you listen real closely you can hear the 2-3 chirp.

http://www.teamcaf.org/upload/honda/Honda-Third-Gear-Chirp.avi

At the end I show you my tires. Good tread on BF Goodrich Comp T/As P195/60R15

dude, i was just watching this video on my comp going through excess files and whatnot, and i realized you were listening to MUSE!!! :rockon: i love muse. i'm gonna see them live on the 22nd. i can't wait! lol, just thought i'd point that out... :rockon: MUSE ROCKS! :rockon:

AccordArizona89
10-04-2004, 05:08 AM
i chripped 1-2. 2-3, and 2-4 !!










oh i forgot i was driving an EVO lol.

87AccordsterLx
10-05-2004, 10:22 PM
It's definitely possible. Brian's accord (jokez) will bark 1-3rd also. He has a clutch master clutch and stock tires though. My tires always slip off the line and it's automatic. If I put the stock tires back on it will bark 2nd slightly.