Aluminium Radiator

[carotman]

I know that some of you guys wanted to have an aluminium radiator when I mentioned that I got one for my Accord. I know that some members (like Rob) got a fluidyne raluminium radiator. I honestly don't know how good the one I got performs but it is sure better than stock.

Here's how it looks
http://carotman.no-ip.com:8888/radiator/alumirad.jpg

This rad is specificaly designed for the 3G Accord (auto or manual) and will last forever. it has plastic tanks with an aluminium core. It has hook-ups for the auto tranny cooler already. If you have a manual car, it could be used as an engine oil cooler I guess.

I got it for $188 CDN taxes included. (This is around $155 USD).

I guess I could get some more if you guys want some. I'm sure you wouldn't even have to pay the taxes on this which would make something like $134 USD.

Anyone got the specs on the fluidyne radiator?

[frankie89]

now thats nice, it dose look better that stock. I wonder how well it performs!!

[frankie89]

sorry 4 double post!!

[Cheeseburger]

thats awsome man when do plan on puting it on

[carotman]

I'll put the rad with all my winter gathered parts when I get the car out of storage.

I can't wait to get it out now!

[NXRacer]

now thats nice, it dose look better that stock.
i dunno. it looks very similar to the stock one. :dunno:

[YK86]

I've been getting some really nice rads just like that lately for the 4th and 5th gens through a guy I know. Is yours a TYC (made in Taiwan) or the one from Laval, Canada (I think the guy said it was a SPI). Great quality and looks damn good too.

Here's mine that I picked up for my 4th gen(SPI). Even came with a new cap. $140 CAD taxes included.
http://img161.exs.cx/img161/8264/p10100824xq.jpg

[frankie89]

yeah it dose look stockish, but will it perform better than the stock one. hey anyone ever try to put a radiator like from another car, and i mean like mad customized in a 3g. I know theres gotta be a broken bolt in someones head to try something like that!!

[carotman]

Yeah I know where SPI is. this is a great company that makes really good rads (about 30 mins from where I live).

This one is made by Autokool. It's supposedly thicker than the stock one but didn't measure it yet.

I also got one for my daily driver (civic 94). Aluminium will not rust out like the copper ones (great for the Canadian winters)

[Hash_man_Se_i]

Looks pretty good, it will be interesting to see how it performs.

[Vanilla Sky]

unless it's bigger, than i'd rather have the all copper radiator... copper conducts heat better...

measure it and get back to us

[HostileJava]

They look so much better with no bugs in them :D

[carotman]

Well, it's supposed to be bigger. The Civic radiator was thicker (1 inch deep)

Here are the specs I found for the civic rad I got

Core Material Aluminum
Tank Material Plastic
Flow Type Downflow
Row No 1
Core Height 13 3/4
Core Width 13 5/8
Core Depth 1
Tube No 0
Tube Size 1,010
Fin Length 0,3370
Fin Per Inch 22
Inlet Header 1 7/8 x 14 1/2
Outlet Header 1 7/8 x 14 1/2
Inlet 1 1/8
Outlet 1 1/8
Eoc None
Toc 7 7/8 ( Concentric )
Mounting Top/Bottom Pin


I will try to get the specs for the Accord but the core is the same. It just has a different width and height.

[snow_man_20]

They look so much better with no bugs in them :D

or bird feathers :sad2:

[smufguy]

the one u get from autozone and such are also aluminum core radiators. but urs look really nice Jean.

[DBMaster]

Cooling performance has never been an issue for me. I had to replace my aftermarkt radiator after only three years. It was all metal and started leaking at a solder joint. My Honda expert concurs - stick with plastic tanks. So, with performance and corrosion (my original radiator was clean inside, it just had a cracked tank after 13 years) not being big issues here you just want to go with a radiator that will not leak!

[Vinny]

Nice Radiator Jean. I was a little suprised when I saw it, not what I was expecting. When I think of Aluminum radiators I think of true 100% aluminum rads like this one

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/741a_1_b-med.jpg

Griffin Radiator 90-93 teg PN 9E-HE790-01. Fits with minor modification, same basic dimensions as our stock radiator

[smufguy]

Offtopic: griffin is a lil expensive and the end tanks are like fludyne and stuff. But if thats a teg radiator, then we defenitely need a different upper rad hose.

[Vinny]

Griffins run about 250-350 bucks but you get what you pay for. The upper hose shouldnt be a problem. Eventually there will be pics of one after complete install

[DBMaster]

I don't get all this discussion of "better" radiators and getting what you pay for. The factory radiator had no problem coping with extensive idling on 100 degree plus summer days in Texas. It all a matter of of durability, if you ask me. The all aluminum radiator pictured above has the upper hose connection on the opposite side on the tank from mine so if I were to use it I would need a much longer hose with a pretty sharp angle bend in it.

More important to longevity is changing the coolant at the specified times. I use an R/O water and long life coolant (the orange) stuff mix. U sing synthetic oil in the engine I never run above halfway on the temp gauge. Amsoil had tested operating temps of engines before and after synthetic oil use and found a 20-50 degree operating temperature drop. I don't know of any radiator that will fit that will get you that.

[RobT5580]

I was gonna use the Fluidyne 90-93 Integra one but its on backorder so i may just cancel that order and focus on the bigger problem i have......

[epic1400cs]

I love those aluminium radiators.:cool: Corrision free is very nice and I assume they are much lighter than stock copper radiator - important for us FF cars. Some Honda tuning shop use and sells aluminium rad for up grade (they are eye-poping expensive though) but there must be strong reason for that. Does anyone know the conduct ratio(or efficiency?) of copper and aluminium? The price is very reasonable and I wouldn't mind order one someday. carotman, please let us know if the fitting is easy and works fine or not and all that. :rockon:

[guaynabo89]

Nice Radiator Jean. I was a little suprised when I saw it, not what I was expecting. When I think of Aluminum radiators I think of true 100% aluminum rads like this one

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/500/741a_1_b-med.jpg

Griffin Radiator 90-93 teg PN 9E-HE790-01. Fits with minor modification, same basic dimensions as our stock radiator


Griffins run about 250-350 bucks but you get what you pay for. The upper hose shouldnt be a problem. Eventually there will be pics of one after complete install

Where are you getting all this information from there buddy? ;) lol



These are pictures of a 90-93 rad.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid161/p132ae8de048699eae9e3f4a2985cc7e7/f4d16140.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid161/pd76abdaa260bd5352239ba7a40a311b3/f4d16141.jpg

[Justin86]

turbo+more heat=aluminum rad ;)

[AccordEpicenter]

i use an aluminum koyo off eGay... like $100 shipped

[Vanilla Sky]

Property Aluminum Copper

Thermal Conductivity @ 0 - 100°C 237 W m-1 K-1 401 W m-1 K-1
Specific Heat @ 25°C 900 J K-1 kg-1 385 J K-1 kg-1
Linear Expansion Coefficient @0-100°C 23.5 x10-6 K-1 17.0 x10-6 K-1
Weight 2"x1"x5" block 0.9818 pounds 3.2443 pounds
thanks to benchtest.com for the table


While copper is a good conductor of heat, it is inferior to aluminum for getting rid of the heat it has absorbed.


copper conducts heat better, but aluminum sheds heat better... i guess the best would be a copper core radiator with aluminum fins...

i had that set up into a nice table, but it formats to that when i submit it...

[Coroncho80]

focus on the bigger problem i have......


What's that Rob?

[smufguy]

What's that Rob?

http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=42332&page=1&pp=20

[RobT5580]

LOL...Im full of problems but i pulled it out today and dropped it off. The cylinders on top were scored slightly and he's trying to tell me i had detonation. But he said he was gonna pull it apart and he cant tell me i caused the rods to hit the cylinders so either way he is at fault. And i spoke to ERL about machining my block and he said scoring is probably from when the rod contacted the cylinder. Either way im probably screwed but if they can fix it to where it will hold up for a bit i will settle and send a 3rd block to ERL and get it done right.

As for the fluidyne i cancelled my order so i may look into the other ones for the accord later on.

[b20a86lude]

yo see if they have one for the 83-87 si prelude i want one

[bobafett]

yo carotman. just checking to see if you can still get these radiators... i may be in the market for one. :)

[ICEMAN707]

you can have an all-aluminum radiator that ACTUALLY FITS custom made by these guys:


http://www.alumrad.com/index.html

[bobafett]

do you have one? if so, what dimensions, and what price did you pay?

they definetly seem like pretty nice quality units. :)

[ICEMAN707]

do you have one? if so, what dimensions, and what price did you pay?

they definetly seem like pretty nice quality units. :)

no i don't have one. i actually just came across that site. i'm not ready to change my radiator yet cus of my upcoming engine swap. but i'm definitely looking to these guys for a custom aluminum radiator once the swap is done. i'm pretty sure the price is in the same range as other aluminum radiator manufacturers (maybe LESS, cus their slogan says "WE BUILD THE BEST, FOR LESS!"), just that this company can custom make one for your car. give them a call!

i think if you mention what car it's for, they can find out the dimensions of the stock radiator through a computer system and go from there. either that, or you have to send them a spare one. but if you really wanna go all-custom, then yeah it's up to you to give them the exact dimensions and drawings of the radiator you want them to make.

[snoopyloopy]

could those people build an aluminum-copper hybrid radiator?

[POS carb]

Thermal Conductivity
@ 0 - 100°C
Aluminum:237 W m-1 K-1
Copper:401 W m-1 K-1

Specific Heat @ 25°C
Aluminum:900 J K-1 kg-1
Copper:385 J K-1 kg-1

Linear Expansion Coefficient @0-100°C
Aluminum:23.5 x10-6 K-1
Copper:17.0 x10-6 K-1