View Full Version : is it possible for a stock 88 to beat any vtec hondas?
Quick88LX-I
08-07-2002, 07:33 AM
:rice:
1988starter
08-07-2002, 07:35 AM
Yea Vtec does not mean unbeatable some vtecs have less power than we do.
Jims 86LXI HB
08-07-2002, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by 1988starter
Yea Vtec does not mean unbeatable some vtecs have less power than we do.
Shouldn't the answer be no? Which vtec equipped honda has less power than our cars? The first north american application was the 93 integra gsr and that car will beat any stock 3rd gen.
The best chance to win over another vtec honda that comes to my mind would be the 92-2000 civic ex cars with 127hp. Even then those car get to 60 in 9.2, pretty close to the 88-89lxi cars isn't it.
Quick88LX-I
08-07-2002, 08:08 AM
i dont know what our 0-60 is but mine is quick as hell.
second gear and i'm there and my car tachs pretty quick.
88LXi68
08-07-2002, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Jims 86LXI HB
Shouldn't the answer be no? Which vtec equipped honda has less power than our cars? The first north american application was the 93 integra gsr and that car will beat any stock 3rd gen.
The best chance to win over another vtec honda that comes to my mind would be the 92-2000 civic ex cars with 127hp. Even then those car get to 60 in 9.2, pretty close to the 88-89lxi cars isn't it.
Civic VX and HX bolt have VTEC and both are slow and they were made in 92+.
1988starter
08-07-2002, 12:12 PM
HX has a 115 vtec and an insite has a 67 horse vtec remember vtec is cool but it does not mean you are unbeatable.
Jims 86LXI HB
08-07-2002, 12:21 PM
Aw man I forgot about those models. They didn't come to my mind because their vtec's are not for high end power they are for high gas mileage and aren't performance models.
88LXi68
08-07-2002, 12:42 PM
I am not trying to start shit but I have raced Civic EXs with the same stuff I have and I have not lost. ohh well though
1989 DX R
08-07-2002, 01:21 PM
Actually, our cars are quite similar to the Civics in size and power. We get more torque because we have a 2.0 motor and not the tiny ass 1.6 motors.
1988starter
08-07-2002, 05:31 PM
either way it is possiable to beat a vtec
My 89 Accord Lxi
08-07-2002, 07:13 PM
u can beat the crx,s the civic hatch back which has like 92 hp stock civic lx dx ex and del sols lol i remember when i lost to one but i needed a tune up so when u see a car like this :rice: smok'em like a newport
Jims 86LXI HB
08-08-2002, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by 88LXi68
I am not trying to start shit but I have raced Civic EXs with the same stuff I have and I have not lost. ohh well though
I don't think you starting nothing, I said I thought it would be close, based on the numbers. I've driven the civic EX's and my drivers seat impression would be that it's not close and that the accord would certainly win. But the numbers tell a much closer story:rolleyes:
1988starter
08-08-2002, 11:21 AM
Personaly I think the stock EX and the stock 88-89 lxi can be a good race. Now my LXi can pick on the ex class tho.
shepherd79
08-08-2002, 01:30 PM
i drove 98 civic Ex automatic with single cam Vtech it is like 127Hp at fly wheel and all i have to say NO WAY.
Neuspeed87lx
08-08-2002, 06:45 PM
i have a 87 accord lx auto and a 96 civic dx 5spd and the civic would beat my 3g with ease
87accord
08-09-2002, 12:31 PM
WEll cant vtec are u talking about u got 2 types of vtec. VTEC (which stands for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) is an electronic and mechanical system in some Honda engines that allows the engine to effectively have multiple camshafts. As the engine moves into different RPM ranges, the engine's computer can activate alternate lobes on the camshaft and change the cam's timing. In this way the engine gets the best features of low-speed and high-speed camshafts in the same engine. Several of the links below go into the actual mechanics of the VTEC system if you are interested. I belive the dohc vtec in gsr and type r are the best out there!
My 89 Accord Lxi
08-09-2002, 09:37 PM
wow kewl i didnt know that. hey btw nice avatar 87accord
night
08-12-2002, 07:54 PM
honestly guys, the single cam fuel mileage versions dont count.
i mean are you really proud you can beat a Civic HX ? or hang with an EX ?
do people really ask this question without the purpose comparing to the real VTEC cars ?
87accord
08-12-2002, 09:28 PM
vtec rules
CrVtecKid
08-12-2002, 09:44 PM
Maybe if the driver weighs 1500 pounds, so simply. NO
Jims 86LXI HB
08-12-2002, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by CrVtecKid
Maybe if the driver weighs 1500 pounds, so simply. NO
Well the original question was "is it possible for a stock 88 to beat any vtec hondas?" I don't even have to think hard to know my car could beat the 2 vtec-e cars the vx and hx. Remember both those cars have hecka tall gearing, 2050rpm's at 60. I've driven them both and my brother owns a vx. Now since I think the spirit of the question DID NOT consider those 2 cars, then you will have to consider if the 127HP 1.6L civic's can be beaten. Their weight is simular, so is the gearing. But the torque curves aren't. I've driven them and can account for the difference in power delivery, they feel slooooowwww. But I think it would be close.
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