Full bodied coilovers failure.

[Busted_Blue]

Well, busted_blue was dumb enough to shell out 800+ bucks for Tein SS for 89-91 Civic/CRX.


So what I did was try it on our cars. Turns out the rears are about 3inches too short as well as the fork is about 20mm larger than the accord ones. So I had trouble with the civic spring being smallers in size also.

The fronts were no problem at all but the back was lowered to the point where the front LCA was hitting my swaybar and thats when I called it quits.


So basically in theory if we use EF front full bodied coilovers and the rear EK full bodied coilovers, we can make a full bodied coilover system. :)



at least some new info is brought up for my attempt for full bodied coilovers. Based on Honda-tech information I've read, they were saying the accord rears were identical to civics which lead me to do this attempt. It failed miserably since the accord was ridiculously longer. The civic was maybe 60% of the accord height.




FAILURE for now...

the next theory seriously is..Front 89-91 Civic Coilovers with our top hats...and Rear Civic 96-00 Coilovers with our top hats. Now.that would be another interest run but since summer is over and I dont got that kind of money to blow all the time. It's quits for me for now until I can sell these 89-91 Tein SS coilovers back out.

[FyreDaug]

Shitty deal, good info to know though.

[Strugglebucket]

don't feel too bad, man. no matter how much research and cross-referencing you do, you never really know until you physically try to make the parts work.

but now you know it only half works...so you made progress:)
when it comes to sh!t like this, think of failure as the first step towards success.

[88accordalltheway]

finally somthing goes wrong for you......I was begining to think your car was almost untouchable. :kekeke: Keep your head up bro, youll get it down. :thumbup:

[Busted_Blue]

finally somthing goes wrong for you......I was begining to think your car was almost untouchable. :kekeke: Keep your head up bro, youll get it down. :thumbup:


remember my first dc sports headeR?


dude..this car always has something go funny when I try to install a new part. =P

[A20A1]

Hmm so you're parting out the whole set or are you keeping the fronts?

[Busted_Blue]

im going to sell the whole set. No point in keeping just front teins. I already have konis.. =P


Perhaps in the future i'll try the civic ek (96-00) ones. but for now..thats enough experimenting. =P

[Oldblueaccord]

Any chance of a 3 inch spacer in the back? Im thinking a solid alum. slug and real long studs on the top hat. This is just off the top of my head. Sounds like alot but if you cant get your money back you should think about it.

Did you actually call them (Tein) and see what they could do for you. I just plan on calling a company and have them make me something and be done with it. I'm thinking it gonna be anywhere from 1-1500k$.


wp

[modu03]

what part was three inches too short... if it was just the rod, i could find a way to make it work...

i'm curios, because my koni's seem to be blown... well, one of them anyway. and i need to find a replacement. i know about revalved bilsteins, but it would cost as much as you paid for the full bodied coil overs. i would rather just go that route.

so, the front fits fine though? the rear fork is 20mm too wide, easily fixed... what about the problem you mentioned with the spring being smaller, why is that a problem?

if i had money now, i would buy these from you, but i won't for some time.

give me any info you can on these. thanx

[truetune]

thanx for you hard work and spent money thats some verry good R&D now quick question did you leave the fronts on just to see how they felt durring driving conditions? Is there any Acura rears out there that may be a possible fit cuz weve now prety much figured out the Civics and later model accords.

[TheWatcher]

BustedBlue,

You got guts! Sorry it didn't work out. Did you consider trading the rear Teins for another model CRX (tell them you ordered the wrong part, and maybe they'll wave the restocking fee)?

Peace.

[Busted_Blue]

As for the fronts...The part that slips into the fork doesnt have a slip like ours so it can pose a problem. The height of the Teins isn't too much of a difference. The diameter of the spring is smaller and poses a problem if the springs wobble and do not center itself on the top hat as there is a lot of room for off angle seating.

I really wish this could work but at this rate with so many posing problems, it isn't too easy without alot of custom effort to work out the kinks.


Front is similar in height but I haven't ever seen anyone just buy 2 front teins ever. 90-93 integra pose similar suspension setup as the 89-91 civic/crx so I don't think those would work at all. 92-95 civic is similar to 94-00 integra so that will be in the similar situation like us that justin showed that the shocks are a bit small.



more R&D perhaps...as I love to get a set of full bodied coilovers on our cars that is readily available.

[modu03]

well... i think i will go play with some different shocks in the junkyard and figure out what else might work, or what it would take to make these work out. i'll let you know what i'm doing, cause i really want some full bodied coil overs myself.

i am good at making shit work that really shouldn't, so i will figure something out. i hope you continue your r&d also

[Busted_Blue]

i was at the junkyard and manage to get a hold of EK struts and EF struts. The EK struts in the rear is similar where it is short but the fork matches up fairly nicely. The only situation I would see is that you need to drop the car at least 2 inches with the EK ones where the EF one (the ones ive tried) you need to drop at least 4 =P

[lostforawhile]

have you tried the one's from the acura legend? first gen i believe

[Busted_Blue]

have you tried the one's from the acura legend? first gen i believe



There is no reason to. The legend ones have no aftermarket anyways.so what is the point of finding if it works?

Only reason I can imagine is that they are stiffer valved because they hold larger chassis but..I don't think it is worth the effort as I want full bodied coilovers not..spring/strut combo.

[lostforawhile]

There is no reason to. The legend ones have no aftermarket anyways.so what is the point of finding if it works?

Only reason I can imagine is that they are stiffer valved because they hold larger chassis but..I don't think it is worth the effort as I want full bodied coilovers not..spring/strut combo.the reason
i mentioned those is maby someone can cross reference those to what you need eaisier then the accord. i think they are very close,i've looked into this a long time ago when i used to have those legend discs before i broke one of them. don't ask. :uh:

[TheWatcher]

the reason
i mentioned those is maby someone can cross reference those to what you need eaisier then the accord. i think they are very close,i've looked into this a long time ago when i used to have those legend discs before i broke one of them. don't ask. :uh:
Discs are off topic, and there is a long dead thread about using legend calipers on 3gs, and why it's a BAD idea. Plus legend discs are 5 lug, and you would have to do a 5 lug conversion (also off topic). This thread is about coilovers/struts.

BustedBlue pulled the trigger on the Teins because the CRX people on Hondatech claim the 88-91 shocks were exactly the same as the 3g rear shocks (except for an extra bolt welded on the CRX shock). Clearly from the picture that BustedBlue posted, they were talking out of their a**.

The oddball 88 CRX coilover is a possibility, but I doubt it would fit (since the 89-91 CRX coilover was too short). But who knows. Props to Busted Blue for trying. But like he said, looking at legend struts is pointless.

Peace.

[sporkHSP]

pm me and we can talk business about those tiens... I have a crx to lower and stiffen up now. :)

[Oldblueaccord]

Discs are off topic, and there is a long dead thread about using legend calipers on 3gs, and why it's a BAD idea. Plus legend discs are 5 lug, and you would have to do a 5 lug conversion (also off topic). This thread is about coilovers/struts.

BustedBlue pulled the trigger on the Teins because the CRX people on Hondatech claim the 88-91 shocks were exactly the same as the 3g rear shocks (except for an extra bolt welded on the CRX shock). Clearly from the picture that BustedBlue posted, they were talking out of their a**.

The oddball 88 CRX coilover is a possibility, but I doubt it would fit (since the 89-91 CRX coilover was too short). But who knows. Props to Busted Blue for trying. But like he said, looking at legend struts is pointless.

Peace.

I dont see the pics?




wp

[lostforawhile]

Discs are off topic, and there is a long dead thread about using legend calipers on 3gs, and why it's a BAD idea. Plus legend discs are 5 lug, and you would have to do a 5 lug conversion (also off topic). This thread is about coilovers/struts.

BustedBlue pulled the trigger on the Teins because the CRX people on Hondatech claim the 88-91 shocks were exactly the same as the 3g rear shocks (except for an extra bolt welded on the CRX shock). Clearly from the picture that BustedBlue posted, they were talking out of their a**.

The oddball 88 CRX coilover is a possibility, but I doubt it would fit (since the 89-91 CRX coilover was too short). But who knows. Props to Busted Blue for trying. But like he said, looking at legend struts is pointless.

Peace.i wasn't bringing up the brake thread, that's why i said don't mention it. the first legend was a four lug. i was trying to make a useful suggestion

[Busted_Blue]

Discs are off topic, and there is a long dead thread about using legend calipers on 3gs, and why it's a BAD idea. Plus legend discs are 5 lug, and you would have to do a 5 lug conversion (also off topic). This thread is about coilovers/struts.

BustedBlue pulled the trigger on the Teins because the CRX people on Hondatech claim the 88-91 shocks were exactly the same as the 3g rear shocks (except for an extra bolt welded on the CRX shock). Clearly from the picture that BustedBlue posted, they were talking out of their a**.

The oddball 88 CRX coilover is a possibility, but I doubt it would fit (since the 89-91 CRX coilover was too short). But who knows. Props to Busted Blue for trying. But like he said, looking at legend struts is pointless.

Peace.


88 Civic has control arms similar to the Type R (box style arms instead of forks) It is pointless to even try that as it wont even mount onto our control arms. It was a shame that they were right about the fronts but not the rears.

As for the legend disc...they were 4x114.3 not 4x100 like ours so even the rotors wouldn't work out nicely.

[carotman]

Ah, that's a shame it didn't work.

At least there is hope for a mismatch coilover setup.

[Busted_Blue]

Ah, that's a shame it didn't work.

At least there is hope for a mismatch coilover setup.


yea.. "hope". If anyone else has the money/balls to do it that is. I sure as hell don't have the time anymore to deal with it. At least for now.