$399ea AUD For B20A Motors

[gr3k0sLaV]

Company is Sydney who has at least 3-4 B20A from JDM accords sitting around, they imported them several years ago mistakenly thinking they were B20AX (3rd gen prelude motors) and found they didn't fit.

Motors are complete from what i've told with accesories attached, they have everything aside from the transmission. Although they have told me they might some auto's laying around.

They seem happy to let go of the motors for a possibly lower price since they have little or no use for them, and aside from me, there's really no market in australia for JDM B20A's.

$399 AUD which is about $290-$300 US, but i'd personally negotiate on the price.

The Comapny Is :

Jap Performance,

Telephone: +61 2 9601 6715

Address:
6 Kelso Crescent,
Moorebank NSW,
2170 Sydney,
AUSTRALIA

Postal Address:
Postal Address:
P.O Box 1,
Bankstown NSW,
2200 Sydney,
AUSTRALIA

Email:
[email protected]

They do alot in the way of importing and exporting engine, half-cuts, etc. They're quite a large firm.

Someone might also wish to organise a bulk buy of all their motors.

For the prices they're asking I wouldn't hesitate on this, its damn well worth it.


I myself have basically stopped any plans for any performance/engine work on the car. For reasons relating to costs, availability of parts, time, money and other things that the car would need I just can't justify it. I'm going to finish the body and interior as planned and end it there. Hopefully by the end of the year, that will all be done.


Yes! Importer in Sydney brought thme in a few years ago mistakenly as prelude motors, but found they weren't the same B20AX

These are the JDM accord motors.

With all accessories, everything except transmission. No 5spd Available! :(

However Engines they want $399, so I might just order myself one.

Now, with this in mind, I think I need to consider some important factor, namely what tranmission will fit his motor?

Can a Prelude B20A5 tranny fit or not?

I'm stoked! $399!

[mykwikcoupe]

if theres more let me know id like at least 1. to my knowledge no other tranny fits exact. there is a post thread about when mike lee had his setup he took the a20ax tranny and ground down some on the inside and it worked. I believe this is what carotmn has now. Mike

[A20A1]

$399 US or Australian dollars? I dunno what the exhchange rate is nowadays... probably sucks for us.

[Cheeseburger]

do they have a web site? i wonder how much shipping would be for me here in los angeles

[gr3k0sLaV]

$399 australian, engine with everything except flywheel & tranny. US would prolly be around $279 US.

I'm just waiting a local person apparently has an import aCcord from New Zealand with B20A, complete working car, only problem is that it can't be registerd. Will hopefully find out on next week if I can get it and how much.

With the business doijng the engines, I'm not going to give out their details just yet. Still want to confirm they have what we hope they have.

[ZackieDarko]

I WANT ONE! pleaseeeeee get in touch with me when you are get'en set to buy one!

[88accordalltheway]

fuck, itd be stupid not to buy one...
this might be a stupid question, but does the price include shipping?
If we can find trannies that will work, it be even more killer.

[b8er]

im pretty willing to buy one even with no tranny avalible, somthings gotta come up that will fit it

[88accordalltheway]

im pretty willing to buy one even with no tranny avalible, somthings gotta come up that will fit it
yea, but i really wouldnt want a sweet ass engine to sit because i dont/cant find a tranny to work.

[gr3k0sLaV]

Well i'm trying to confirm with this importer how many they've got, and other info, they did say they might have an or some auto's laying around.

I've been emailing and speaking with them, and I have informed them that there may be US buyers interested.

Price they quoted me is $399 S&H is all extra.

[shepherd79]

that is a very good price, but without tranny it won't do anygood laying around. no other tranny will fit that block. people tried and compared.
Chris, i think you should get that motor and get auto tranny to go a long with it. This way it won't be too much trouble to install it. you can always drive the car with B20 in it untill you find 5 speed that will fit.

[rjudgey]

Why don't you guy's try looking in the U.K. or Europe, i've got Engines and gearboxes coming out of my ears down here, i'd love to buy some of these and sell to ya but i just don't have time with work commitments and lack of space from allready having shed loads of spares (i mean that literally just built another new shed to put stuff in!!)
I've seen two B20A ludes over here in the U.K on EBAY, may be some scrapyards might be able to ship to US

[Versanick]

the transmission has to match the flywheel. I believe a b20a5 flywheel would let you use a b20a5 tranny. I don't know what axles would fit.. maybe the passenger a20 axles that we use with the b20a's?

[shepherd79]

even if flywheel will clear the bell housing on the trans., if bolt holes don't line up, you can't bolt up.

[FyreDaug]

Then what the hell? A b20A never came with a 5sp?

[88accordalltheway]

i bet shipping and handling is going to almost double the price, and thats still without a tranny. Good find reguardless.

[shepherd79]

Then what the hell? A b20A never came with a 5sp?
no, B20A had 5 speed or auto option. it is just hard to find 5 speed.

[gr3k0sLaV]

the transmission has to match the flywheel. I believe a b20a5 flywheel would let you use a b20a5 tranny. I don't know what axles would fit.. maybe the passenger a20 axles that we use with the b20a's?

Well there are ways to make transmissions fit, involving drill bell housings, etc.

[adams86lxi]

Someone just needs to make some sort of adapter plate so the a20 tranny cant bolt up to a b20. Like people did with the h22 to bolt up b series trannys!

[gr3k0sLaV]

Company is Sydney who has at least 3-4 B20A from JDM accords sitting around, they imported them several years ago mistakenly thinking they were B20AX (3rd gen prelude motors) and found they didn't fit.

Motors are complete from what i've told with accesories attached, they have everything aside from the transmission. Although they have told me they might some auto's laying around.

They seem happy to let go of the motors for a possibly lower price since they have little or no use for them, and aside from me, there's really no market in australia for JDM B20A's.

$399 AUD which is about $290-$300 US, but i'd personally negotiate on the price.

The Comapny Is :

Jap Performance,

Telephone: +61 2 9601 6715

Address:
6 Kelso Crescent,
Moorebank NSW,
2170 Sydney,
AUSTRALIA

Postal Address:
Postal Address:
P.O Box 1,
Bankstown NSW,
2200 Sydney,
AUSTRALIA

Email:
[email protected]

They do alot in the way of importing and exporting engine, half-cuts, etc. They're quite a large firm.

Someone might also wish to organise a bulk buy of all their motors.

For the prices they're asking I wouldn't hesitate on this, its damn well worth it.


I myself have basically stopped any plans for any performance/engine work on the car. For reasons relating to costs, availability of parts, time, money and other things that the car would need I just can't justify it. I'm going to finish the body and interior as planned and end it there. Hopefully by the end of the year, that will all be done.

[gr3k0sLaV]

I've started a new thread with the company details.

[ZackieDarko]

i sent this company an e-mail, but it is not even 7am there! hopefully they will send me some usefull info! ...now just to find a tranny with LSD :idea:

[Hash_man_Se_i]

hmmm that sounds like a pretty good deal. I might have to look into this... however shipping to canada would probably suck

[gr3k0sLaV]

i sent this company an e-mail, but it is not even 7am there! hopefully they will send me some usefull info! ...now just to find a tranny with LSD :idea:

They usually get back to you within 24hrs, they've been pretty good with that.

Otherwise call them directly, which is even better and quicker.

Wonder what is the differences between a prelude 5spd and a JDM accord 5spd? (B20A) is it that the bolt holes don't match up
?


With purchasing and shipping the engines overseas, I'd say if you can afford to, buy the lot all in one hit at a lower price and resell 'em.

[shepherd79]

if you want to know the diff between two trannies, you should ask carotman.
he did the comparison when he was building his B20.

[gr3k0sLaV]

if you want to know the diff between two trannies, you should ask carotman.
he did the comparison when he was building his B20.

I'm sure it can be done, as I'm sure theres a certain $$$ atached :)

[gr3k0sLaV]

I'm sure it can be done, as I'm sure theres a certain $$$ atached :)

Anyone contacted them yet?

[ZackieDarko]

i called 'em up ..man! you guys got some crazy accents!...and you like to say "no worries" alot too :-p

i called them up and i can get the engine shiped here for 500 (AUD) and the cost of the engine and i can also get an auto tranny with it for an extra 150 AUD...im trying to look into finding a cheaper way to ship it but i havent had any luck yet! but i should have the money wired to them by mid next week! im so excited ya'll (= :) :) :) :) :cool:

[gfrg88]

500 aud for the motor and tranny shipped? how much usd is that?? sounds like a great deal...

[A20A1]

500 aud for the motor and tranny shipped? how much usd is that?? sounds like a great deal...

Read the posts above you, he said it was;
"$399 AUD which is about $290-$300 US, but i'd personally negotiate on the price. "

[Cheeseburger]

i called 'em up ..man! you guys got some crazy accents!...and you like to say "no worries" alot too :-p

:bowrofl: lmao

[87RedAccord]

no worries ey mate, im thinking about getting one and chucking it in my accord mate. any way i gota go feed the kangeroo's.

[gr3k0sLaV]

i called 'em up ..man! you guys got some crazy accents!...and you like to say "no worries" alot too :-p

i called them up and i can get the engine shiped here for 500 (AUD) and the cost of the engine and i can also get an auto tranny with it for an extra 150 AUD...im trying to look into finding a cheaper way to ship it but i havent had any luck yet! but i should have the money wired to them by mid next week! im so excited ya'll (= :) :) :) :) :cool:

Guys you spoke to are in Bankstown which is the Lebanese hotspot of sydney. Lots of ethnics, lots of gangs, etc. Lots of WRX's, hotted up cars, etc. That's why they talk a bit different.

Good to see your getting a motor though.

[mykwikcoupe]

nope sounds like itas 500 aud for shiping alone and the 399 aud for the engine plus another 150 aud fopr the tranny so thats 1049 aud which is about 800 usd or so id guess

[gr3k0sLaV]

any updates?

[86-accord-lxi]

so , let me get this straight , engine and transmission BOTH
$800 usd including shipping???
if thats the case count me in.

[ZackieDarko]

300 (US) for the engine, 150 (US) auto tranny, 400 (US) shipping....the guy said that adding the tranny to the mix shouldnt change shipping... so 850 total-ish?

as for an update the guy said it could take 4-8 weeks for it to get here :( lame! but its worth it i guess it will give me time to get extra money to work on it! well ya thats it

[ZackieDarko]

whoops! thats 150 AUD not US ..so its like 112 (US)...my bad

[gfrg88]

so did you order it already?

[gr3k0sLaV]

good to see i've done some good.

Shipping time sucks, but that's the catch unless you want to pay higher costs to have it flown.

Oil's expensive.....

[ZackieDarko]

yes oil is uber expensive and this hurricane isnt helping one bit :(

no i havent ordered it yet on account of them not giving me all the info i need to get it all done ya know? but its ok they will get back to me and i'll have my B20 on its way (=


big ups to gr3k0sLaV for finding these so THANKS!

i'll keep anyone who cares at all updated

[b20a86lude]

damn thats real good i been lookin for a spare b20a how many do they have

[ZackieDarko]

the guy said "a few" so im guessen at least 3?

[86-accord-lxi]

is there anyway to reserve a b20a and tranny?

[ZackieDarko]

e-mail them and ask [email protected]

[Pro_Mod_Accord]

Are these auto tranys???or 5 spd?? or can yah get both?
Do they come with:?????
- ECU
- Wiring harness
- Starter
- altenator
- exhaust manifold
- engine mounts


From my understanding a wiring harness from a FI A20 will work with this engine, but you need to replace the ECU, read about it on hondaprelude.com......if my statement is incorrect please correct me...

[gr3k0sLaV]

Are these auto tranys???or 5 spd?? or can yah get both?
Do they come with:?????
- ECU
- Wiring harness
- Starter
- altenator
- exhaust manifold
- engine mounts


From my understanding a wiring harness from a FI A20 will work with this engine, but you need to replace the ECU, read about it on hondaprelude.com......if my statement is incorrect please correct me...

Auto's only available from this mob, however Manuals can be more easily sourced in the US.

For details contact Jap Performance directly.

Yes you can use the A20A ECU, performance is slightly compromised, but if your bothering to go all out and do an engine swap, you'd be wise to buzz off the factory ECU and just for an aftermarket system. With fuel & ignition control - gives you more tuning options and control, and down the track lets the addition of a turbo setup become a lot easier.

[Pro_Mod_Accord]

OK....Aftermarket ECU....definetly not my area....Anyone know what type of aftermarket ECU is compatible with our 3G's???And if so, where to get'em? Thanks, any reply would be appreciated...Definetly going to go to the next level if I can get a JDM B20A this winter when I store it away...

Done some research on the B20a, and a small few of Honda hardcores with Civics and Preludes have dialed in these blocks and pulling B18c Type R's that are also set-up..lots of potential...Any feed back would be great.

[ZackieDarko]

i heard sumthen about using the prelude ECU but dont quote me on that, use the search feature and you could probablly find out what you need

[gr3k0sLaV]

OK....Aftermarket ECU....definetly not my area....Anyone know what type of aftermarket ECU is compatible with our 3G's???And if so, where to get'em? Thanks, any reply would be appreciated...Definetly going to go to the next level if I can get a JDM B20A this winter when I store it away...

Done some research on the B20a, and a small few of Honda hardcores with Civics and Preludes have dialed in these blocks and pulling B18c Type R's that are also set-up..lots of potential...Any feed back would be great.

ANY aftermarket ECU should be compatible.

Basically fuck off all the stock accord ECU. Depending the ECU you go with some use factory sensors others replace them.

I personally wouldn't bother with the factory ECU unless you can have them easily modded, tuned, etc. In the case of ours well nothing can be done.

With finding out, most performance shops, places that do dyno supply them. I know here it's pretty easy to get.

We've got excellent well priced choices such as Microtech, Wolf3D, Haltech & MOTEC (probably regarded as one of the best around) Australian built and very highly regarded locally and internationally.

Kalmaker is another it uses GM Delco ECU's that have been adapted to connect to a laptop and software written, very popular choices as the GM DELCO ecu's are used in many Holdens (GM) here.

[ZackieDarko]

so we can use the stock harness and any aftermarket ECU?

[ZackieDarko]

whoops! this is what i mean to say
-------------------------

so we can use the stock A20A3 harness and any aftermarket ECU?

[shepherd79]

the stock harness will have to be modified for B20. you may want to read up on swaps in swap section.

[Pro_Mod_Accord]

Thankx for all the info....Need a game plan before I find one to buy...

[nswst8]

300 (US) for the engine, 150 (US) auto tranny, 400 (US) shipping....the guy said that adding the tranny to the mix shouldnt change shipping... so 850 total-ish?

as for an update the guy said it could take 4-8 weeks for it to get here :( lame! but its worth it i guess it will give me time to get extra money to work on it! well ya thats it

Here is the US dollars conversion as of today. Hope it helps.
Live mid-market rates as of 2005.09.04 17:56:28 UTC.
850.00 AUD Australia Dollars
= 650.369 USD United States Dollars
1 AUD = 0.765140 USD 1 USD = 1.30695 AUD

[gr3k0sLaV]

Sounds right.

Actually we should get a sticky on this thread as well.

[Pro_Mod_Accord]

http://openloopmotorsports.com/B16man1.jpg

SICK b20a with b16 manifold........Yah baby!!!!


here are some other B20a pics of it.
http://openloopmotorsports.com/B201.jpg
http://openloopmotorsports.com/B202.jpg

[gr3k0sLaV]

I think that went into a hatch back which was able to crack 15's

[gr3k0sLaV]

any updates yet?

[ZackieDarko]

any updates yet?


here is an update for ya, the guy who answers the e-mails is not there for 2 weeks

how am i supposed to do business with these guys if they dont e-mail me back?

:sad2:

[gr3k0sLaV]

Ring them, best way.

[Pro_Mod_Accord]

Are yah gonna inquire about the s/n:# on the block to make sure it's a real jdm b20A aCCORD MOTOR......If they are plz let us know.....need one this winter when my car is in storage...gonna need to do a little JDM swap..LOL Been lookin' around..hard to find in N.America...Bull-shiat!