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OldSchoolSwap
08-15-2002, 08:58 AM
Found another good write up from good old gr motor sports.


What's the secret to choosing the right pad or shoe?
Obtaining a basic understanding of your needs and then matching them to the proper compounds. It's also useful to listen to the experts (hopefully, the people selling the stuff).

Brake pads and shoes, like a lot of things in this world, are available in a large number of flavors. Some are good, and others are so-so. Understanding this will make life easier. Let's take a look at what kinds of compounds are available:

· Organic: These are the $6.99 pads that you can get at the local parts shop; essentially, you get what you pay for. Organic pads are made up of compressed wood and/or paper, and perhaps some low-grade metal has been thrown in. Their friction coefficient (how well they grip against the rotor or drum surface) is very low, and they can't handle the high temperatures associated with any sort of performance driving. Basically, these pads not appropriate for competition use.

· Semi-metallic: These are definitely a step in the right direction. Expect to find much more metal in the mix (probably iron, but maybe brass or bronze) along with a better binder (what holds the pad together). The friction coefficient is higher (meaning the pads will provide more bite against the rotor) and they will wear better. Semi-metallic pads and shoes are the basic $30/pair-type found down the street. Usually a better choice over organic compounds, but you could do better.

· Carbon-based metallic: This is the good stuff that we'll be talking about today. The price goes up a bit, but performance rises many times over. Carbon and various metals (iron, nickel, brass and bronze) are thrown into the mix, and a better high-temperature epoxy binder holds everything together. The friction coefficient is much higher than semi-metallic pads, and in general they are also less dusty. Carbon-based metallic pads are offered by several companies in many different compound mixes. Hawk, Performance Friction, Porterfield, Cool Carbon and Wilwood (Polymatrix) all offer quality carbon-based metallic pads. Besides selling brake pads, Carbotech and TS Imported can also reline the backing plates from drum brakes with these modern materials.

· Carbon-carbon: Odds are you don't have these brakes (carbon-fiber rotors with carbon-fiber pads), unless you run in FIA races in Europe.

ACCORD EX
08-15-2002, 02:56 PM
nice write up ! thanx for sharin ! :)


MIKE

87accordlx
08-15-2002, 03:21 PM
"Organic pads are made up of compressed wood and/or paper, and perhaps some low-grade metal has been thrown in"

WOOD!?!? how would someone get the idea to use wood in a brakepad in the first place? but these are prolly the pads i have now cause i have to stand on the pedel to stop goin down a hill

OldSchoolSwap
08-16-2002, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by ACCORD EX
nice write up ! thanx for sharin ! :)


MIKE Glad you enjoy it! :)

OldSchoolSwap
08-16-2002, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by 87accordlx


but these are prolly the pads i have now cause i have to stand on the pedel to stop goin down a hill

:lol

OldSchoolSwap
08-19-2002, 10:15 AM
Back on top ^^ http://86-89accord.com/3geez/smilies/sunglasses.gif

shepherd79
08-19-2002, 01:24 PM
good article.
what do you guys think about this pads? http://www2.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?UseCase=C001&UserAction=performMoreDetail&Parameters=TRUE%7C%7EBRAKE+PAD%2FSHOE+-+FRONT%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EPFC-CARBON-METALIC%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EFALSE%7C%7EFALSE%7C%7E47165 %7C%7E1118%7C%7E3344%7C%7EMULTI-LAYER+TECHNOLOGY+FOR+NOISE+REDUCTION%2C+SUPERIOR++ %0A++STOPPING+PERFORMANCE%2C+PREVENTS+SOFT%2FMUSHY +PEDAL.%7C%7E%2430.99%7C%7EHONDA%7C%7EACCORD%7C%7E 1986%7C%7ELLT%7C%7E3.05%7C%7EEA%7C%7EB

OldSchoolSwap
08-19-2002, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by shepherd79
good article.
what do you guys think about this pads? http://www2.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?UseCase=C001&UserAction=performMoreDetail&Parameters=TRUE%7C%7EBRAKE+PAD%2FSHOE+-+FRONT%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EPFC-CARBON-METALIC%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EFALSE%7C%7EFALSE%7C%7E47165 %7C%7E1118%7C%7E3344%7C%7EMULTI-LAYER+TECHNOLOGY+FOR+NOISE+REDUCTION%2C+SUPERIOR++ %0A++STOPPING+PERFORMANCE%2C+PREVENTS+SOFT%2FMUSHY +PEDAL.%7C%7E%2430.99%7C%7EHONDA%7C%7EACCORD%7C%7E 1986%7C%7ELLT%7C%7E3.05%7C%7EEA%7C%7EB
I think for that price or a few dollars more you can get the AEM pads that is a known good performance pad.

AZmike
08-20-2002, 08:47 AM
Where are the AEM pads availble? Do you remember what they cost?

OldSchoolSwap
08-20-2002, 09:19 AM
Let me track some info for you.........

Jims 86LXI HB
08-20-2002, 09:41 AM
Well I had EBC pads and I put them to the test. I would run on roads like in the picture below. You could go for miles without ever seeing another car. A average run would take me about 18 miles or so. For those 18 miles I was either on the throttle, braking to the max or cornering to the max. Their were plenty of time's where I would slow down from 110mph down to 30mph-45mph at max braking. I never every had fade.Then I came to a stop to turn around and head back, brake smoke would pass me up:D I was also running slotted/dimpled brembo's, but not the larger 88-89 rotors. When you make use of the EBC pads, they do create allot of dust. But I will never use any other brand after they past my brand of product testing, and I REALLY hate dust!

89cordlx
08-20-2002, 09:47 AM
hehe it's the same with me 87accordlx, I was goin 75 and had to stop a red light since I figured the guy ahead of me would, I stood on the brake pedal and my brakes didn't lock up, I ened up about a car lenght past the white line. :(

OldSchoolSwap
08-20-2002, 03:18 PM
.......................Front pads............Part#

Accord 1986-88 Sedan DX, LX.....26-105.......$33.92
Accord 1988-89 Coupe DX..........26-105........$33.92
Accord 1989 Coupe Sei...............26-125........$42.42
Accord 1988-89 Sedan LXi, SEi....26-125........$42.42

You can order here http://www.lightningmotorsports.com/aem_brake2.htm

And you can read about them here http://www.aempower.com/brake_pads.htm

OldSchoolSwap
08-20-2002, 03:22 PM
I love this picture :D

http://www.aempower.com/placed/hpbp_1.jpg

87accordlxph
08-20-2002, 04:02 PM
WOW!

Awesome! Thanks for the info man (I need new rotors 2? where, where? or what kind?)

-Mike

1988starter
08-20-2002, 05:22 PM
You can get many diff types from www.nopi.com