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azazel_18_2
11-29-2005, 01:18 PM
I have an 89 accord lxi and the a/c went out. I got one of those leak detector kits andthe freon is actually leaking from a seal in the compressor. This happened shortly after we had the system converted to R134. Can Keihin compressors handle R134? I would hate to buy a new one and end up with the same problem. I know there is alot in changinit from a Keihin to a Nippodenso. Does anybody have all the stuff I would need to do the conversion... besides the compressor because I will get that new. How much do you want? If there is nobody, what exactly do I have to change? I figure I have to change a few lines and the a/c bracket. Is that it or is there more to it than that? Please someone help me out here!
nswst8
11-29-2005, 01:47 PM
1st ?. How much R134a did you put it the system during the conversion. Should not have been more than 80% of the required amount of R12.

2. Stay with your original compressor I have the same one and converted it back in 1997/8 really can't remember that far back. I still haven't changed the receiver/dryer either.

You should be able to pick one up on ebay if they haven't dropped at Autozone.

Stay with premixed freon.
POS carb
11-29-2005, 03:17 PM
Keihin compressors are not recommended for R134 retrofits, you need the Nippondenso

You'll need to go to the junkyard and get the mounting bracket (part that bolts to the block) and the compressor.

I think the hoses are the same...

I had the Keihin and the compressor seized up after about 3 months of use with r134

Everything else is compatable
nswst8
11-30-2005, 05:00 AM
I don't know what you guys are doing to your systems. But as I said to you all I converted my Keihin to R134a in 1997/8 and I still haven't changed the receiver/dryer.

The Keihin converts just as well as any other compressor. Do the extra work if you feel you must. But it is not nessasary.
Blkblurr
11-30-2005, 09:15 AM
Does the SE-i have the Keihin compressor? If so, I have had no trouble at all with mine in the four years since is did mine. You do need to add the oil stabilizer when you do the conversion.
POS carb
11-30-2005, 10:09 AM
the Keihin is the small stubby one...
blahblahblah
11-30-2005, 10:49 AM
how will you know witch one you have? Im getting ready to change mine...
nswst8
11-30-2005, 12:48 PM
Keihin
POS carb
11-30-2005, 02:35 PM
Nippondenso 10PA15E (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-89-Honda-Accord-Rebuilt-Nippondenso-A-C-Compressor_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33543QQitemZ 7953737510QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V)


Keihin (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-89-honda-accord-OEM-ac-compressor-w-clutch_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33543QQitemZ8012 340732QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V)


I'm pretty sure there's another (slightly smaller I think I t was just called 10PAE) version of the nippon denso but I haven't located it
lostforawhile
11-30-2005, 03:19 PM
the keihin compressor just sucks period, honda had so many problems with it they came out with a kit to change compressors,I'm not sure if it's still made,it was over a grand though. figure these are the same people who made our carbs,that ought to tell you something.
Swap_File
11-30-2005, 06:14 PM
Didn't the Honda replacement kit have a Sanden (the best one of all three) compressor?
Kabuki
12-01-2005, 11:17 AM
Yes, the Honda kit used the Sanden. Yes Keihin units work fine with R134. They just suck with either refrigerant. Currently the retrofit kit I have access to is about $1000, and comes with the compressor, receiver/drier, two hoses, misc. hardware, and the bracket. Otherwise, I can ship out a reman Keihin compressor for $350, including freight.