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Busted_Blue
12-13-2005, 01:37 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/20051212%20Fat%20Fives%20Photoshoot/IMG_8115Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/20051212%20Fat%20Fives%20Photoshoot/IMG_8120Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/20051212%20Fat%20Fives%20Photoshoot/IMG_8123Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/20051212%20Fat%20Fives%20Photoshoot/IMG_8118Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/20051212%20Fat%20Fives%20Photoshoot/IMG_8133Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/20051212%20Fat%20Fives%20Photoshoot/IMG_8141Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/20051212%20Fat%20Fives%20Photoshoot/IMG_8156Small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/crazyxzer0/20051212%20Fat%20Fives%20Photoshoot/IMG_8160Small.jpg
lemme know whatcha guys think, and those jdm sidemarkers are on because the pic was taking with hazards blinking.
:thumb up:
I got some upcoming plans soon :ph43r:

TheWatcher
12-13-2005, 02:15 AM
You must love having more aftermarket support.

Everything looks really good. :) Milano Red is bold & delicious.

Peace.

Busted_Blue
12-13-2005, 04:35 AM
You must love having more aftermarket support.
Everything looks really good. :) Milano Red is bold & delicious.
Peace.


Even with the aftermarket support, I'm not really getting much aftermarket..


In terms of looks, my car has JDM Corners and JDM Sidemarkers. Interior I have the optional audio console and the armrest too. To be honest, this car is very similarly modified like how my old accord was : OEM taste with a hint of aftermarket.


The amount of aftermarket still boggles me but the thing is, alot of it is junk. All these made in taiwan cheap imitations are all over the place. The biggest thing I love about this car is that it is fairly interchangable with the 3rd generation Integra which brings me to a few mods: Motor and Brakes.


Expect to see some more interesting additions as the semester ends and I go on break. You know what that means.. photoshooting :D

TheWatcher
12-13-2005, 05:05 AM
Well at least if you WANT to get aftermarket, you have choices. For example, if you want a cf hood, you can get a VIS or Seibon (instead of the crappy carbon fiber laid over fiberglass no name crap that's available for the 3g). Or you can get Teins, etc. You get the drift.

Even w/o the visible mods, it's sexy. :)

Peace.

2drSE-i
12-13-2005, 07:19 AM
i hear ya man, i got plans for the break :D

88accordhb
12-13-2005, 07:32 AM
clean dude.

bobafett
12-13-2005, 09:02 AM
looking good man.... btw sway bars are rocking now! :)

one thing i know is, i wont have to worry about u ricing this car out! keep up the good work!

Cheeseburger
12-13-2005, 11:36 AM
looking really good bro...
see u on Sunday lol... have the merchandise ready =P

88accordhb
12-13-2005, 01:05 PM
i take that back, your car is gay. >:[

Hash_man_Se_i
12-13-2005, 02:55 PM
Car looks good... do u not rock those other wheels for daily driving?

Cheeseburger
12-13-2005, 02:57 PM
i take that back, your car is gay. >:[


lmao...

Busted_Blue
12-13-2005, 03:10 PM
Car looks good... do u not rock those other wheels for daily driving?


The other rims have bridgestone Potenza 205/50/15 on it. They cost me $130 mounted and balance each. i don't think I'll want to waste those tires on daily driving in the "winter" (california one haha).

The tires on it now are yokohama es100 which are aboud $70 each tire which isnt cheap but cheaper than my nice bridgestones.


I'm waiting for camber kits so i can even out the camber before I ride on the bridgestones.

-2.5 camber in front and -2 camber in the rear is Mad Tit3 y01!!1!!




Well at least if you WANT to get aftermarket, you have choices. For example, if you want a cf hood, you can get a VIS or Seibon (instead of the crappy carbon fiber laid over fiberglass no name crap that's available for the 3g). Or you can get Teins, etc. You get the drift.
Even w/o the visible mods, it's sexy. :)
Peace.


I guess you are right. There is a great amount of good aftermarket support for my car. But alot of it is for hatches not the coupes. The main reason there is alot of aftermarket support i think is because of interchangability. I'm using alot of integra type r parts. I have so far Type R sway bar, Type R lower control arms, Type R N1 99spec coilovers. Alot of the parts that are made for integras or other civics can work with my car which is great and somewhat overwhelming too.

























In the 3geez world, I was Busted_Blue, a legend as some call me. In the Civic world, I am just an ordinary civic. I am nobody.

2drSE-i
12-13-2005, 03:21 PM
Change your damn avatar, it makes me sad, even tho it still belongs to a board member

AccordEpicenter
12-13-2005, 03:26 PM
whats under the hood. Please tell me you sold the accord for somthing with some punch

Busted_Blue
12-13-2005, 03:31 PM
whats under the hood. Please tell me you sold the accord for somthing with some punch



stock d16z6 for the time being.

I'm debating over B16A or B18C1 at the moment. Once I figure it out and find a decently priced one with low mileage and find an LSD Tranny, I'll slapp it in. Until then I'm just going to leave it with basic bolt ons on the D16. Intake and exhaust.

AccordEpicenter
12-13-2005, 03:33 PM
ynot go D16Z6-T? There are guys running around with 12 sec stock engined full interior'd 92-95 coupes... Its cheaper too

2drSE-i
12-13-2005, 03:33 PM
up the displacement, go b18 :D

Busted_Blue
12-13-2005, 04:02 PM
ynot go D16Z6-T? There are guys running around with 12 sec stock engined full interior'd 92-95 coupes... Its cheaper too

Simply for the fact that I do not have smog hook up. I do not want to risk tickets from cops who are dicks. My buddy has a Turbo GSR and he only had it for about 3 months and he has been pulled over and fined over $500 because of his turbo kit.

If i lived in another state without smog, things would be a lot different, but since I live in SMOG NAZI central, no.



GSR B18c VS B16A is a tough debate.

Yes i want torque (but what honda has torque?) No difference in which motor for this reason.

Displacement? well....what does the displacement do? give torque right? also wastes more gas.

Power : both are equally potential in power. 170hp or 160hp is not big enough of a difference to just go with the GSR 170hp.

Intake manifolds: B16A intake manifold is much better than the Dual stage of the GSR. But there are aftermarket copies of the b16a IM for the GSR again, reason is nulled.


Ease of making smog legal: here is the big one. It is alot easier to bar the GSR if i buy a USDM OBD1 one. The B16A will be harder to make legal as the B16A p30 ECU is rare.

Price: B16A is cheaper hands down. GSR is more expensive by about $1000+



The two reasons that matter the most pick both engines. GSR for ease of making smog legal, and the B16A for being cheaper.


I'm stumped =\

Shadowkat
12-13-2005, 05:41 PM
Simply for the fact that I do not have smog hook up. I do not want to risk tickets from cops who are dicks. My buddy has a Turbo GSR and he only had it for about 3 months and he has been pulled over and fined over $500 because of his turbo kit.
If i lived in another state without smog, things would be a lot different, but since I live in SMOG NAZI central, no.
GSR B18c VS B16A is a tough debate.
Yes i want torque (but what honda has torque?) No difference in which motor for this reason.
Displacement? well....what does the displacement do? give torque right? also wastes more gas.
Power : both are equally potential in power. 170hp or 160hp is not big enough of a difference to just go with the GSR 170hp.
Intake manifolds: B16A intake manifold is much better than the Dual stage of the GSR. But there are aftermarket copies of the b16a IM for the GSR again, reason is nulled.
Ease of making smog legal: here is the big one. It is alot easier to bar the GSR if i buy a USDM OBD1 one. The B16A will be harder to make legal as the B16A p30 ECU is rare.
Price: B16A is cheaper hands down. GSR is more expensive by about $1000+
The two reasons that matter the most pick both engines. GSR for ease of making smog legal, and the B16A for being cheaper.
I'm stumped =\

I assume B16B and Type R B18C5 are out of the question. . .too bad. Although my favorite of the two is the B18, i would go B16 in this case. I believe they are more suited to daily drver purposes, but the smog thing plays huge in CA, so it might not be worth the money you save if you have to pay lots of smog related tickets, but i would try for th B16 in this case. that's my personal opinion. good luck deciding, and please keep us updated, because that car + swapped engine=too cool to not share

NXRacer
12-13-2005, 05:48 PM
great......now we get to look at pictures of a civic every week. :rolleyes:
your photoshoots are no longer welcome here. Its all of a POS civic. Go to honduhtech or something. :rofl:

j/k maing, but seriously, civics are BOOOORING

Busted_Blue
12-13-2005, 06:23 PM
great......now we get to look at pictures of a civic every week. :rolleyes:
your photoshoots are no longer welcome here. Its all of a POS civic. Go to honduhtech or something. :rofl:
j/k maing, but seriously, civics are BOOOORING


hahhahaa ok bye

2drSE-i
12-13-2005, 07:26 PM
NO I LOVE YOU

no really this is the nicest civic ive ever seen. and the only gen civic that i like, seriously.

maxoutracer
12-14-2005, 02:09 AM
it looks good derek!

SiR
12-15-2005, 09:31 AM
I like that rule that it can be a Honda-only products on "Accord Pics" section. Bending the rules my friend.

Cheeseburger
12-15-2005, 10:28 AM
cuz hes a pimp...

bboipinoy112
12-15-2005, 12:08 PM
aye D. you can go with a Greddy turbo kit. or you can go with ls/vtec b20/vtec. you just have to ref it before you swap heads. blah. but anyways.
what kind of mufller is that? is that greddy sp ? looks pretty nice.

Kabuki
12-15-2005, 12:22 PM
Personally, I'd do the B18C1. B16s suck donkey balls in anything but a CR-X. Just not enough torque.

Busted_Blue
12-15-2005, 01:59 PM
I like that rule that it can be a Honda-only products on "Accord Pics" section. Bending the rules my friend.




Its funny because the rule does say honda products in the pic section. oh well i won't post any more pics since it is a civic =P



Personally, I'd do the B18C1. B16s suck donkey balls in anything but a CR-X. Just not enough torque.


What honda has torque? 1.8 or 1.6 won't have torque regardless. ohwell.

SiR
12-16-2005, 06:10 AM
Its funny because the rule does say honda products in the pic section. oh well i won't post any more pics since it is a civic =P

A Honda is a Honda, and that Civic is cool in my book(and has to have FOUR double-A arm suspension too, so your good)

Busted_Blue
12-16-2005, 11:54 AM
A Honda is a Honda, and that Civic is cool in my book(and has to have FOUR double-A arm suspension too, so your good)


I'm kidding, i don't ever take offense from you guys. It's all a silly joke to me.



But yea, I won't show as many pics of the civic anyways don't want people to see the ugly pos. :)

2drSE-i
12-16-2005, 02:46 PM
cuz thats what civics are :D

HondaBoy
12-16-2005, 04:51 PM
good to see there's not a shopping cart conversion done to the rear (aka. Big Ass Wing) LOL. looks real clean man, you know how to keep a car clean anyway. so we shouldnt have to worry.

2drSE-i
12-16-2005, 07:36 PM
i never worried about busted blue, why worry about Milano_Red

3gn86lxi
12-16-2005, 07:47 PM
Yeah, D, whats the deal........are you going to keep the user name? You should tell Abe to change B_b's name.
I think Blue_cheese was the best! :)

Busted_Blue
12-16-2005, 08:42 PM
lol give it up! i should change my name to derek. mods? :)

sporkHSP
12-17-2005, 11:03 PM
aye D. you can go with a Greddy turbo kit. or you can go with ls/vtec b20/vtec. you just have to ref it before you swap heads. blah. but anyways.
what kind of mufller is that? is that greddy sp ? looks pretty nice.
...exhaust is Apex'i world sport
b20/vtec is definatly not smog legalize-able (if that makes grammatical sense)
and my .02 (again) is b18
b16's aren't that awesome, they only real advantage I ever hear is that they "Rev faster"... its cheaper, but more difficult to smog.
b18 just seems the better option for you, and since when is alittle bit more cash a big deal for your modding?

Busted_Blue
12-19-2005, 02:31 PM
...exhaust is Apex'i world sport
b20/vtec is definatly not smog legalize-able (if that makes grammatical sense)
and my .02 (again) is b18
b16's aren't that awesome, they only real advantage I ever hear is that they "Rev faster"... its cheaper, but more difficult to smog.
b18 just seems the better option for you, and since when is alittle bit more cash a big deal for your modding?


Money really shouldn't be the issue, but it is.


the real comparision should be...

B18C1 or...B16A + remainder cash to mod etc.

The idea is that both motors will be smog legal regardless of which I choose. They are both great platforms, and I'm just curious on if the extra money spent to get the GSR, would it be better to get a b16A and use that extra cash to build it?

2drSE-i
12-19-2005, 02:56 PM
i think youll be happier with the b18. sure just slightly better power and torque, but with smog in california i think youd be better off :)

bobafett
12-19-2005, 02:59 PM
after having driven a b16a2 powered 00 si civic, with EVERY BOLT ON POSSIBLE, as well as CTR intake cam, VAFC, and tuned by a shop.... it was still really slow and really lame.

he seriously had every mod u could think of... TB, IM, AFPR, IHE, the works.... and the car had no balls. of course vTACKING out at 9200 rpm was a blast, but the car was weak sauce. just buy a gsr motor, and u will enjoy the drivability of it much more. then mod as u have the money. 99% of the time ,its better to step up to the better platform even if it costs more, cause eventually u will have spent more money on the shitty platform, and wished u had spent a bit more in the beginning.

also i am not a cali person, but i hear b18s are easier to smog than b16s? not too sure on this, maybe its the other way around. and maybe its obd0 > obd1

bboipinoy112
12-19-2005, 03:36 PM
well. i did the usdm 18c1 swap. got the sticker. then b20/vtec swap. i have the sticker to back it up. thats all i was saying.



ANYWAYS. b18c1 is a good choice. hands down. but c5 is just a "PROPS" swap... bopper:" OMG, a typ-r !? " . so i hope no one mentions b18c5 when you can easily make a c1 up to c5 spec.

1320boy
12-19-2005, 05:01 PM
Wha.... nobody like the B-17??????

Blue Impact
12-19-2005, 11:38 PM
Flawless, D, flawless...maybe we oughta go photoshooting together. :D

Blue Impact
12-19-2005, 11:43 PM
Wha.... nobody like the B-17??????

It's similar to the B16, only with more displacement. Better off with a B16 because the B17 is rare. Only found in 92-93 GSRs.

Busted_Blue
12-20-2005, 04:29 AM
after having driven a b16a2 powered 00 si civic, with EVERY BOLT ON POSSIBLE, as well as CTR intake cam, VAFC, and tuned by a shop.... it was still really slow and really lame.

he seriously had every mod u could think of... TB, IM, AFPR, IHE, the works.... and the car had no balls. of course vTACKING out at 9200 rpm was a blast, but the car was weak sauce. just buy a gsr motor, and u will enjoy the drivability of it much more. then mod as u have the money. 99% of the time ,its better to step up to the better platform even if it costs more, cause eventually u will have spent more money on the shitty platform, and wished u had spent a bit more in the beginning.

also i am not a cali person, but i hear b18s are easier to smog than b16s? not too sure on this, maybe its the other way around. and maybe its obd0 > obd1




good points. The funny thing about the B16A is that it does lack something compared to the C1 motor. At this point, I'm looking for an OBD1 B18C1 full swap. hopefully I can find one for fairly cheap with low mileage once I get the money for it.

Being smog legal for a b16a and b18ci isn't that tough but it is touger for the b16a as it is missing emissions crap from the USDM version. It would just be a problem sourcing the parts, that's really all. Majority of the JDM motors are really clean even with the emission systems we have here in the states. But to be smog legal, I just need the standard emission equipment from the original car, ie. DEL SOL VTEC to pass the b16a. B18C1 is a little less rare than the VTEC DEL SOL so it would be "easier" to pass.


oh yea, OBD1 > *



If i was allowed to, I would slap a b20/vtec into the car. My friend has a b20/vtec EK hatch.....lemme just say that all that money he spent into that motor, the car's vtec feels like a turbo car.

He raced it against another friend's Turbo ITR and it wasn't pretty for the ITR. I wish I could but I cant afford a state ref ticket.

2drSE-i
12-20-2005, 01:56 PM
just swap an a20 in it, and boost the shit outa it :D

Busted_Blue
12-20-2005, 11:00 PM
just swap an a20 in it, and boost the shit outa it :D


That's exactly what I'll do!!!

bigger displacement at cheap price! ya!

sporkHSP
12-21-2005, 02:59 PM
I thought about doing that if I found an 88-89 crx, but alas I got another 90, so I'll just put my crappy b16a in it...
but actually, that would make a fun 1gen crx project... hmmm

2drSE-i
12-21-2005, 09:18 PM
see i have my good ideas, nothing beats 3g performance :)

ICEMAN707
12-24-2005, 08:58 PM
finally sold my chevy crapalier and got a clean 93 EJ coupe like yours for $700. it's amazing how a much older honda is still alot better quality than some cheap domestic crap. it's an LX with the D15y7 in it but it's still a pretty peppy little car. it's nice to be driving stick again after owning 2 automatics. it's pretty fun to drive. would be nice to swap a boosted k-series in there. TSX k24 block with a k20a type-r head. gotta love hasport. :rockon:

it's that mint green color, but oh well. it will do for now. i will post pics soon.

Busted_Blue
12-25-2005, 08:48 PM
finally sold my chevy crapalier and got a clean 93 EJ coupe like yours for $700. it's amazing how a much older honda is still alot better quality than some cheap domestic crap. it's an LX with the D15y7 in it but it's still a pretty peppy little car. it's nice to be driving stick again after owning 2 automatics. it's pretty fun to drive. would be nice to swap a boosted k-series in there. TSX k24 block with a k20a type-r head. gotta love hasport. :rockon:
it's that mint green color, but oh well. it will do for now. i will post pics soon.

be sure to jump on the www.ej1ownersclub.com forum if you want. :D I'm always there as "crazyxzer0"


Dont think there is an LX version though.. Only DX and EX..

ICEMAN707
12-25-2005, 10:13 PM
be sure to jump on the www.ej1ownersclub.com forum if you want. :D I'm always there as "crazyxzer0"


Dont think there is an LX version though.. Only DX and EX..

cool, i'll check it out. and yeah, it's a DX. you're right.

jigga225
12-25-2005, 10:22 PM
Nice man, perfect for a Daily Driver. Don't want something with too many things done to it bc being a daily driver it's gonna get rock chips, shopping cart dings etc etc.
Nice stance too.