Need a solution for this.

[lackej1971]

OK,

Here's the problem: I have detailed it in here before, but the problem is about the hose that vents from the valve cover to the breather. I am using the PCV Filter material in the little container thing, but it is still letting alot of particulate oil into the breather. I went to AutoZone as well as Advance Auto Parts looking for another PCV Filter, but nobody had one.

I think that I am going to design my own with baffles where the particulate will collect and drain back into the crankcase. I have to do something and because I am a machinist/tool and diemaker, I think I can do it. Does anybody have some ideas for designs? If you do, please drop me a sketch and I'll study them.

Thanks, James

[HondaBoy]

you mean valve cover breather? the pcv valve is on the manifold. i've heard it can cause the breather to cough up oil like your having. its cheap and simple to change out. as for the baffle thing your talking about, there's something like that is connected to the oil pan going up to the pcv valve. sits under the manifold.

[A20A1]

Just look up Oil Catch Can

Thats whats you need.

[lackej1971]

OK, Guys, I made my own "Oil Catch Can" today. It operates on the same principle as the ones I looked up just now, but the in and out are at the long ends of the pipe. I also was lucky enough to find a whole lot of the same filter material that they use in the breather filter elements. I made my "can" where it can be disassembled, cleaned and recharged with new filter material. I also put the nipple for the valve cover hose at the bottom of the can and the other one at the top of the can on the other end so that hopefully the oil would settle to the bottom of the can and recycle itself into the crankcase.

We'll see. I bought a new breather filter and with this thing in place, it should really limit the oil being transferred to the breather. I don't care how it looks as long as it works, but for home made on company time, I'll say I did OK.

James

[lackej1971]

Oooops, forgot to subscribe!!!

OK, Guys, I made my own "Oil Catch Can" today. It operates on the same principle as the ones I looked up just now, but the in and out are at the long ends of the pipe. I also was lucky enough to find a whole lot of the same filter material that they use in the breather filter elements. I made my "can" where it can be disassembled, cleaned and recharged with new filter material. I also put the nipple for the valve cover hose at the bottom of the can and the other one at the top of the can on the other end so that hopefully the oil would settle to the bottom of the can and recycle itself into the crankcase.
We'll see. I bought a new breather filter and with this thing in place, it should really limit the oil being transferred to the breather. I don't care how it looks as long as it works, but for home made on company time, I'll say I did OK.
James

[HondaBoy]

get some pictures of that. it sounds interesting how you made it.

[lackej1971]

Hi, I will be glad to take and post some pics of the "contraption" that I made. The only problem for now is that I made it just a little too long, so the distance between the breather cover and the valve cover is a little less than I thought.

I'll have to take it back to work and cut about a half of it off to make it fit. Then I will probably have to make some special fittings that fit down into the vent hose better. I may be able to find some barbed connectors and use them, but we'll see. Either way, it simply acts as a pre filter. When I am finished with it, I will make an AutoCAD drawing and make it available for download so everybody can make their own pre-filter.

On top of all that, I took a strip of the filter material and pushed it into the vent hose. Then I took the crappy material out of the PCV Filter and did it right. THEN, as a final safe guard for my NEW AIR FILTER, I cut a strip of filter material about 2" tall and 12" long and put it between the PCV Filter and the Air Filter.

I then replaced the valve cover gasket to stop my car from leaking so much oil. It seems to be money well spent so far. Took her out for a spin and what a difference. After cleaning the crud from the float bowl chamber and then ensuring that my engine could BREATHE, it really picked up and took off.

I've had a lot of help from everybody in here and I just want to say Thanks to all of you and have a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

James

[Cant Stop]

pcv filter?
there is a box by the oil pan that taps the block and the oil pan, then a hose that snaps into the intake, the pcv valve snaps in then a u shaped hose hooks directly into a vacuum port on the intake make sure the u shaped hose is not collapsed under vacuum load otherwise excess oil pressure blows into the valve cover which would blow lots of particles into your air box.
take off your intake and look at the crud built up in your ports and you will see a lot of scary crap egr contributes as well as the pcv oh well what can you do?

[lackej1971]

I did have a problem with the hose collapsing at the PCV Valve. The only way that I could fix it was to use a semi circled piece of copper tubing with rubber grommets on each end that would fit over the tubing nipples. It doesn't collapse NOW! As for removing the intake, I don't really know where that is just yet. Is that only on a fuel injected car? Mine is carbed. Anyway, I would love to get in there and clean it. I'll search the site on how to remove the intake and look at the crud in it.

Are there any products that you recommend for cleaning the crud out of the intake system? I'd like to know before I start the job.

Thanks, James

[Cant Stop]

? on additives. i am carbed as well the intake is the silver thing the carb and all that crap sits on near the firewall look at my web site pic's from my signature when you get error just click that it is a valid url and dont disable the water heat system like i did, i only did that cuz i live in fla and only need it 3 weeks a year. my pic's shows the intake off as well as various parts.

[lackej1971]

Andy,

I'll be honest with you, all that stuff scares me! I really don't want to tear that much stuff off of my car. I mean it runs OK, but if I do all of that, theres NO WAY I could put it back right again. Before I do all of that, I'll take it somewhere and get their opinion on why it may be stalling. Thanks for you input though.

James

[A20A1]

you can buy two 90* vacuum connectors and just run small sections of vacuum tubbing between them to make a 'U' joint for the PCV vavle.

[Cant Stop]

not a problem, i only tore it down that far because a "freeze" plug on the underside had rotted out and i had to remove it to fix it then on the spur of the moment i did the black box removal.
i put the pcv back to factory so all that hacking i did on the water passages was unnecessary i have had no problems cooling wise with them capped off.
as a matter of fact i need to plug my temp sensor back in as it is still not hooked up since i relocated it to the fitting near the bleeder.
the factory tube that i bought has a semi hard foam sleeve on it that keeps it from collapsing under vacuum.(u hose)
funny side note: when i was replacing my pcv hoses and o-rings i discovered that they were all rubber and not the hard plastic they had become!

[lackej1971]

Thanks for the input. I have the tubing problem solved as far as the PCV Valve is concerned. Tonight, I made myself a valve cover breather filter that connects to the side of the breather. It looks pretty strange, but it looks neat to me. Definitely not what you expect to see under the hood of a car like mine. I'll try to post some pics as soon as I get it polished up. For now, I am just testing it to make sure it will work right.

James