pppsssshhhhhtttttt!!!!!!!

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i grabed this t25 off ebay. its from a 2g eclipse. its for a small a20 turbo build. i really know nothinng about turbos so i dont mind my first one being small. dont plan on going over 12 psi or reving past 6k so this one will do. i am gonna build my own manifold. if anyone comes accross a 1g dsm bov or like some 330 injectors (or what even numbewr is close) let me know, they must be cheep

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9787/picture1779cs.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5232/picture1788vd.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4592/picture1799zy.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/333/picture1800ty.jpg

[gfrg88]

sweet, thats what i plan on getting, that with a side mount intercooler :rockon: do you guys think that a smic would be goo enough for up to 10 psi?? oh and how many engines are you buildin man!?!? lol

[B16KILLA]

Good find bro have fun with your turbo project, i'll look around a couple places and see if there any deals i can find you on some injectors.:)

[B16KILLA]

sweet, thats what i plan on getting, that with a side mount intercooler :rockon: do you guys think that a smic would be goo enough for up to 10 psi?? oh and how many engines are you buildin man!?!? lol

An dsm gst smic will handle about 10-15 my buddy has one on what used to be a gs but its gsx now and he's at like 13 psi right now.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i am going with a small fmic, i seen them new for about $110-120

i am not really building this motor, just slaping on the turbo and having fun. if i run into more money ill build the a20 i have in my basement.

i am building (still gathering parts) a b20b for my hatch, i have a b18a that is going in the hatch before the b20 to get everything ready while i am building up. '

for future projects i have a d16z6, d16y5, and a d15b in my basement. ill prob take the 3 and make a nice oem mini me

[SQ is the SQUAD]

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/60000067/Images/sm%20intercooler%20dimensions%20(72).jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Bar-and-Plate-FMIC-Intercooler-turbocharger-turbo_W0QQitemZ8030990777QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

[gfrg88]

thats about the size i was looking for when i wanted a fmic but i think it would be even better for people not see the intercooler and have a stock dsm bov and it would be less piping and cutting and just seems easier....

[mkymonkey]

this gives me hope. i didnt think that we could use a turbo that came in stock cars. cool.....my hunt begins!

[SQ is the SQUAD]

this gives me hope. i didnt think that we could use a turbo that came in stock cars. cool.....my hunt begins!


i take it you never checked out www.homemadeturbo.com

[mkymonkey]

ive checked it out but really didnt read anything on it..besides their featured cars. lol. anyway how much does a t3 cost? i found the t25 on ebat new for 495 shipped...is that good. i dont really know anything about turboing a car besides what it takes to do it

[SQ is the SQUAD]

read around for a good month befoe you buy anythnig, the t25 i got is used i pretty good condition, i paid $77 off ebay, i seen them go cheeper. but you gotta rember there is alot of crap on ebay also so be careful.

[mkymonkey]

yeah i just started reading on htm and im overwhelmed with the amount of informaion on this site. but i will do it.

[spnrx]

I heard it's really difficult to turbo a carb. The question I have is it easier with the t25 or should I give up on the prospect?

[voiceinurhead05]

"I heard it's really difficult to turbo a carb. The question I have is it easier with the t25 or should I give up on the prospect?"

You can turbo a carbed engine? News to me...

[Bglad420]

Good luck with your project.....I'd just buy a 50 dollar turbo and rebuild it......bang new turbo 4 under 200 bucks

[Bglad420]

And stay away from ballbearing turbos you cant rebuild them (well you can but $$$$$$$)

[A20A1]

I heard it's really difficult to turbo a carb. The question I have is it easier with the t25 or should I give up on the prospect?


There are two ways to turbo a carb... they are not as easy as efi.
If you blow thru you have to pressurize the fuel and carb properly.

If you draw thru you have to make sure you have the correct turbo with the carbon seal? to keep from sucking up oil out the turbo when the throttle of the carb closes.

Draw thru can cause carb icing, which will cause the throttle to stick open.
Draw thru does not offer the use of an intercooler.

[Bglad420]

Fuel Injections just better anyways....

98HP carb
120hp FI

you decide

[spnrx]

Thanks and I have an automatic....>.> Would I need to like so anything extra special?

[SQ is the SQUAD]

id get a 5spd fuel injected. it makes it just so much esier

[Bglad420]

Thanks and I have an automatic....>.> Would I need to like so anything extra special?

Yeah a 5-speed

[buds302]

check what i swiped off ebay for my civic.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8022810859&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

im next man im tellin you!

[SQ is the SQUAD]

looks like a nice deal. once i get everythng situated i am gonna grap a couple more cheep turbos off ebay and start rebuilding them. i heard the ball bearing turbos are pretty hard to rebuild.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i just contacted aaron weir of weirtech to get the parts to make my manifold. as soon as my tax money comes back i think i might go buy a miler syncowave 180 tig welder

[gfrg88]

what exactly are you getting from this guy??

[SQ is the SQUAD]

a20a header flange, two 90 degree headder bends, two headder t's, turbo inlet flange, turbo outlet flange and possabvle the flange for an external wastegate. i havent heard anything bad about him.

[KoNEY]

You may have the same trouble the CB'ers have, but not sure seeing as how A20 is a 2.0 rather than 2.2 (F22)....I'm currently running a 14B (actually an upgrade from the T25) and @ 10 psi it runs out at about 4500 rpm. Boost drops off because turbo is already maxed out (14B and T25 have ability to boost up to 16 psi, but 14B flows more CFM), making my pwer band end pretty much a 4500...just thought I'd share, good luck man, and I'll keep you posted when I pull my 14B off, it's for sale.

[bobafett]

yeah realistically i bet a 16g would be much better suited for good peak power at 6000+ rpm... at least for a car that plans on running more than 10psi. :)

or since 16g's arent super cheap, u could just buy a t3/t4. :)

[KoNEY]

or since 16g's arent super cheap, u could just buy a t3/t4. :)
Yeah, I was actually considering a T3/T4 60-trim with a .58 AR and running that @ 10-11 psi, CFM's would be off the hook, but lag baby, laaaaaaagggg. I guess if I don't find a good used 16G to rebuild, I'll just get a brand new one or if all else fails I have a locked up T3/T4, maybe could rebuild it if it's not too bad....:toilet:

[bobafett]

http://www.precisionturbo.net
http://www.cheapturbo.com

t3/t4 options are very reasonably priced. :-)

i am going to be using t3/t4 .60compressor/.63 turbine with a 57 trim strage III turbine wheel. :) the turbo is rated at like 650cfm. :) 400whp+ capable, not that i would ever reach that mark. ;-)

http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/gat357trw63a.html - that is basically the turbo i have. bought it online for just over $400. :) brand new!

EDIT: hey koney what times are u pulling with a 14b setup on your 4g? i have a buddy with a 4g and im trying to talk him into boosting his... he has the f22a4? i think, its the 16v sohc non-vtec... but im guessing the dsm manifolds can still be modified to fit... im curious if u have dyno'd ur car or got in any track time. :) he spent '$7000' supposedly on his supercharged corrado, and it ran 15.4's with 15psi lol... so hopefully this accord can do a little better...

[shane_lxi]

lol. Was the seller named david nesgoda (or was it shipped form washington) by any chance, lol. One of my coworkers just sold that exact same turbo on ebay. I don't know if that is his or not. He was trying to build a turbo d16z6 on his '96 shivic, lol. Good luck. Much love for the turbo 3geez :D.

How difficult is it to actually make the turbo manifolds for these anyway? Seems like alot of work, but worth it i'm sure.

[bobafett]

who me? i bought it from someone in seattle like a year ago... dont remember sellers name...

[jigga225]

I can't wait for this to unfold....

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i got an email form arron, he wants to know do i want to use a 1.25 i/d pipe or the standard 1.5 i/d pipe. he says the 1.25 is closer to the port size on the exhaust flange, any ideas

[gfrg88]

hmm, ive been wondering that too, i think its best to go with 1 1/2, but im not sure :dunno:

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i got an email form arron, he wants to know do i want to use a 1.25 i/d pipe or the standard 1.5 i/d pipe. he says the 1.25 is closer to the port size on the exhaust flange, any ideas

any ideas on the pipe size so i can order? will 1.5 be too big?

[AccordEpicenter]

you need to SC61 that bitch

[KoNEY]

You're gonna love the turbo maing....just work out any bugs you might have, like the cfm dropoff for lack of turbo size, but that T25 will do way more than what a stock A20 does. As for manifold, I'd get something big enough to support a p&p head and turbo upgrades (KoNEY thinks quietly to himself about a GT35R on a 3G and begins hardness phase one....lol)

[SQ is the SQUAD]

daMN KONEY, THAT SHIT IS SLAMED, THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE!

[KoNEY]

EDIT: hey koney what times are u pulling with a 14b setup on your 4g? i have a buddy with a 4g and im trying to talk him into boosting his... he has the f22a4? i think, its the 16v sohc non-vtec... but im guessing the dsm manifolds can still be modified to fit... im curious if u have dyno'd ur car or got in any track time. :) he spent '$7000' supposedly on his supercharged corrado, and it ran 15.4's with 15psi lol... so hopefully this accord can do a little better...
It's running mid 14's...considering its not tuned isn't that bad. The power practically runs out though after 4500 rpm, like let off the gas. I'm saying tuned I could be pushing about 200-210 whp and anywhere from 215-225 wtq....I want the 16G though. W/16G I could be pushing a tuned 240 or so whp and around 270 wtq....plenty for a street Honda...F22A4 EX motor swapped in with 8K miles....DSM manifold fo sho!!! If he wants to go turbo I'd prolly sell mine for like $75 when the 16G goes on...:rice:

[gfrg88]

hey koney what turbo do you have rigth now??

[KoNEY]

hey koney what turbo do you have rigth now??
Mitsubishi 14B, off a 1st gen DSM....
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655510_196_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655510_197_full.jpg
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http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655510_201_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655510_202_full.jpg

[KoNEY]

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655510_203_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655510_215_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655510_214_full.jpg
Unfinshed picture (about a month ago)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/655000-655999/655510_217_full.jpg

[SQ is the SQUAD]

looks much bigger than my t25

[gfrg88]

whenever you decide to get rid of it just pm me ill see if i can take it from you :rockon:

[SQ is the SQUAD]

ill prob end up using the internal wastegate but i did happen to snag this off ebay today. i seen a pretty need trick and a couple people using this on hmt

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8036247716&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

http://i8.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/2f/66/21_1.JPG

[SQ is the SQUAD]

my wastegate came in today. gonna start cleaning it and maybe do a powdercoat job

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1329/wg2kk.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3339/wg24st.jpg

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8167/wg31eh.jpg

[88accordhb]

looks like it's comin along victor. good luck.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i am making better progress than i did with my hatch. i put my 1g teg lip on today

[mkymonkey]

cool dude, lets see some pics!

[SQ is the SQUAD]

the pictures of the lip came out pretty crappy, it was getting dark. ill retake some tomarrow.

before
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/372/before3fg.jpg

after
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/3908/lip6xo.jpg

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1551/lip26sv.jpg

[gfrg88]

looks much better with that new lip on :rockon:q

[SQ is the SQUAD]

once i get my inspection sticker i am going to drop it

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i got my ebay bov in today. now all i need is my intercooler and piping. i was bored so i decided to blow into the outlet on the bov and press up the release plate with my fingers to hear the swish sound

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2662/bov34xn.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8274/bov28cv.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7594/bov11no.jpg

[gfrg88]

how much was that bov ???

[SQ is the SQUAD]

$13.77 + $19 shipping

the same guy sells similar bov for $32, i wonder what the difference is

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8037572737&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

[gfrg88]

damn thats a pretty good deal, i wonder how they sound?

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i was reading about them on www.homemadeturbo.com i guess few people have used them and gotten a better sound by removing the bigger of the two springs

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i though these where too good of a deal to pass up.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8035423388&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

[gfrg88]

damn thats a good deal :rockon:

[SQ is the SQUAD]

when they come in ill compare them to my suspension tech springs (i cut some extra loops off them)