Total Noob with my new LX

[sinisterfuzzy]

hey everyone, i was just wondering what sort of performance parts can i stick on my 1989 Accord LX i just acquired? What all can i do performance wise with this thing? It seems almost impossible to find any performance parts anywhere for it. It's a 5-speed. Carb'd

[ghettogeddy]

do some searhing on the board here the button is in the top right corner also there is a hole section on just proformance modshttp://www.3geez.com/forum/search.php

http://motors.search.ebay.com/ebaymotors/search/search.dll?GetResult&fcl=3&fmt=6030&fylo=86&frpp=50&sofocus=bs&sofindtype=22&fmmd=accord&from=R43&satitle=&fisc=c6028&fsop=1&fsoo=1&fyhi=89
also try that ebay link it will give u quight a choice

[sinisterfuzzy]

i didn't really find anything on ebay. what have other people put in these or what engines (that are more modable) can i put in my lx that will fit?

[ghettogeddy]

well u dident find anything on ebay that dident clue u off there is little to no support for your mototr and what support there is manly comes from people on this site. theres only a hand full of people on here that have actually swap a motor in or done a turbo so your just gana have to look around the site for them

[voiceinurhead05]

I also have an LX. There is some support for your motor as far as performance goes. Some Ideas:

Weber 36/32 carb (can fit a couple different intake styles)
performance cam
4-2-1 headers
Head work (port and polish, valvetrain upgrades, etc)
High compression pistons

That should give you (at the very least) a good start. You'll find more in time.

[LXi_tuner]

does anyone make 4-barel carbs for the 3rd gen accords??
if so, get one of those...

[ghettogeddy]

if anyone dose it sweber but i dont think so but u also cant hold me to that
http://www.webercarburetors.com/

[A20A1]

Don't worry about getting intakes for the weber, it's better you get something that flows straight down into the carb instead of from the sides.

I dunno how true this is but it seems you can up the carb size if you intend to divide the carb. If you consider that dual DCOEs will be around 800 CFM but you're running individual runners with about 200 CFM available to each cylinder.

My manifold divides a 4bbl that will be about 551.5 CFM (390 CFM 4bbl) in two, so I get about 275 CFM available to paired cylinders, but the firing order makes it so 1 cylinder is really open to 275 CFM... since the cylinder pair is not firing together, this could be bad or good depending on your needs.

I read somewhere that a single 50 DCOE is not as good as the IR (Individual Runner) setup of two 40 or 45 DCOE's, so maybe even though I split my larger CFM carb in two, I would still be better off with 4 bike carbs or two weber DCOE's. Then again it does not take into account that my 4bbl is nothing like the 50 DCOE... With a 4bbl I'm running a progressiv carb, probably under a vacuum secondary, where as a single weber 50 DCOE has one barrel feeding a pair of cylinders. My 4bbl carb is more adept to changes in demand... and as the RPM's rise and the carb is at WOT I get the benifit of a larger carb. I've seen a few people put serious thought into running dual 32/36 on 2.0 and 2.2 liter motors after running single 38 and other carb setups. I'm still questioning if I should get a 4bbl with a larger primary since I've heard that the primary being too small can cause issues... meaning the cross over point in a smaller primary 4bbl is proably earlier so you don't get to use the primary as much and you're always into the secondary with normal cruising... with a larger primary you can make use of it more in normal driving without depending on the seconary as much.


2bbl flow rating


WEBER
325 CFM 32/36
??? CFM 34/34
375 CFM 38/38
465 CFM 45 DCOE Though the DCOE carbs rating may be different depending on the manifold setup... dual dcoe to individual runners vs. single dcoe, single barrel to 2 runners vs. single dcoe to plenum feeding 4 runners.
HOLLEY / EDELBROCK / DEMON JR.
551.5 CFM , 390 CFM 4bbl converted to 2bbl flow rating
707 CFM , 500 CFM 4bbl converted to 2bbl flow rating

A 4bbl might not be the best for your motor... I'm not even sure if it will ever run right even after hours of tinkering. No one makes a 4bbl manifold... making your own is an option, though you may end up with hood clearance issues, especially if you want to run a decent filter.
http://www.3geez.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3487
* This pic shows the correct orientation + pleunum divider which may help boost the signal to either side of the now split carb..
http://www.3geez.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3882
* This pic shows the bolts securing the manifold... x2 . 5/16" shaft with 1/2" Head.

[LiTtLe xOx BitT]

It all depends on how much you have to spend to beable to say what you can do. Im doing a custom CAI, header, high-flow cat and catback exhaust, delta 272 cam. If you want to do a turbo or engine swap it will have to be custom, there isn't a lot of aftermarket support for the 86-89 accords but thats the best part because its mostly custom. My cardomain has pics of the parts i have so far. Basically what you can do to the car all depends on how much money you have to spend and how good you are at customizing parts.

[A20A1]

if you want quick acess to off the shelf parts you need to buy a new car with popular aftermarket backing. The 3G are really backed by the owners of the cars and what parts they can make or have others make for them.

[sinisterfuzzy]

I also have an LX. There is some support for your motor as far as performance goes. Some Ideas:
Weber 36/32 carb (can fit a couple different intake styles)
performance cam
4-2-1 headers
Head work (port and polish, valvetrain upgrades, etc)
High compression pistons
That should give you (at the very least) a good start. You'll find more in time.

can you give me some links to those parts?

[A20A1]

Weber 34 or weber 32/36
http://www.carburetion.com/Weber/weber.htm
* Might want to ask if you can get the Weber 34 DGEC in place of the Weber 32/36 DGV if you buy the weber conversion kit... if you don't get the 34 the the kit will come with a 32/36. The kit only exists for manual cars so automatic cars have to use the manual kit. The 32/36 is an okay upgrade but I think if you're wanting different feel to the carb then you should get the 34 becasue it is synchronous and should make power earlier then the 32/36.
If you get the 32/36 which is progressive you only get real power from the carb when the secondary begins to open... which is probably higher up in the RPM then you said you wanted it in an earilier thread.


For Pacesetter 4-2-1 try
http://www.SummitRacing.com