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86 barnstormer
06-15-2006, 11:43 PM
in the newest issue there's a little 3geez love in there. it's only one page but some is better than none.

tightwhitelx
06-24-2006, 06:11 AM
hey guys we made it i dont know if this is the right place to put this post but if a mod would move it if its not just wanted to let everyone know that if you pick up the latest issue of honda tuning with the crx on the cover we get mentioned in the 6 cars to do a engine swap in that people dont think of along with the accord there is a sick h22 swapped 1st gen oddessy well thats one more step for the accord guys



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crazykamper
06-24-2006, 06:28 AM
nice!!!! my friend has that issue, i will look it up fo sho.

adams86lxi
06-24-2006, 06:52 AM
thats my car guys!!! There is already a couple threads about it! Look for mine in the pic section...

crazykamper
06-24-2006, 07:30 AM
lol. nice, i will have to look at those pics!!!

Cheeseburger
06-24-2006, 11:36 AM
post the pics!!!

crazykamper
06-24-2006, 12:02 PM
post the pics!!!!

lwatcdr
06-25-2006, 12:11 PM
I just picked up a copy of Honda Tuning.
Well I saw that put a B20a into an Accord article. The prices all looked cheap and my wife is a big Honda fan. So where they dropping acid or is there a different B20a? From what I have seen they are extremely rare.
So what gives? What is the truth?

stat1K
06-25-2006, 12:14 PM
that's actually adams car from what i understand and he doesn't really have a b20a in... and the prices were kinda just made up. he actually has a turbo a20.

MECM
06-25-2006, 12:16 PM
I really don't know but atleast we got what 4 of these Honda Tuning threads going.
:gun: :rant:

adams86lxi
06-25-2006, 12:21 PM
that's actually adams car from what i understand and he doesn't really have a b20a in... and the prices were kinda just made up. he actually has a turbo a20.


i USED to have a turbo b20 now its a20 turbo... and yea the prices were all made up..

Legend_master
06-25-2006, 12:33 PM
i USED to have a turbo b20 now its a20 turbo... and yea the prices were all made up..


I think the turbo a20 is much more plosible then a b20. I wish they would have thrown that in the article to. Maybe we could have got some manifolds made or something.

HondaBoy
06-25-2006, 12:49 PM
yeah, A20's arent hard to find and will hold its own when tested. i still have yet to check the artical out.

EducatedFool
06-25-2006, 01:50 PM
someone should scan and post the article in full, so that i don't have to buy the mag. honda tuner is impossible to find around here :(

Legend_master
06-25-2006, 01:53 PM
someone should scan and post the article in full, so that i don't have to buy the mag. honda tuner is impossible to find around here :(


Adam already did (http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52757)

speedpenguin
06-25-2006, 01:55 PM
They were making up rices, but they weren't far off. A B20A doesn't cost that much, however it is very hard to find, especially with a manual transaxle.

LiTtLe xOx BitT
06-25-2006, 02:27 PM
The prices were just to show that you can get a 3g, swap in a b20, and put nitrious in it for $2500 when it would cost you $3000 for a ef civic or 2g crx stock. So they are saying that you could have a faster car with the 3g for 2500 the you can with a civic or crx for 3000 and have room to drive your friends around and you could be chasing down type-r swapped hatches all day. Basically they are saying its the best all around first car because you can make it kinda fast for fairly cheap and still use it to drive all of your friends around. Sorry if that doesn't make too much sense, im kind of tired.

lwatcdr
06-25-2006, 04:43 PM
I guess I really find it annoying. They made it sound simple when in fact it is borderline impossible. So I take it that the A20 has some potential. I looked at the other B motor swaps. Are the motor mounts really $600+ or did I read that wrong.
I guess it times to for a nice clean 3g Accord now.

MECM
06-25-2006, 05:11 PM
Are you talking about the article because all it prices are the Accord itself, The B20a swap, and the nitrous. Or are you talking about prices around the internet?

snoopyloopy
06-25-2006, 07:41 PM
the article wasn't too far off, actually. you could find an 89 lx-i or even an se-i in fair condition for around $1000 (depending on your locale). and a b20a engine isn't really expensive. your problem probably wouldn't be paying for it. it would be finding one. you could possibly get a b20a1 from europe since no one cares about an edm engine and get carotman to mod a prelude ecu to jdm b20a specs for you. kinda pointless if you're going to turbo, though. but for $2500, you could have a pretty quick turbo'd a20 3g as well.

MECM
06-25-2006, 07:55 PM
^woot woot.

gfrg88
06-25-2006, 09:24 PM
I guess I really find it annoying. They made it sound simple when in fact it is borderline impossible. So I take it that the A20 has some potential. I looked at the other B motor swaps. Are the motor mounts really $600+ or did I read that wrong.
I guess it times to for a nice clean 3g Accord now.


YES, the a20 does have a lot of potential, there are many parts out there that can easily be modded to fit onto this car. and pretty soon we should be able to get turbo manifolds too, im working on getting some guy to start making them, f22parts.com :thumbup:

88accordhb
06-25-2006, 10:03 PM
i paid my respect to adam's old set up and got an issue, i'm not a magazine reader though. anyways what yall talkin about? lol

da9
06-28-2006, 01:30 PM
so only the b20 from japan will work in the accords

so no usdm

any help will help

i am just wanting to do the swap
no one has it around omaha

Legend_master
06-28-2006, 01:34 PM
so only the b20 from japan will work in the accords
so no usdm



Correct

ZackieDarko
06-28-2006, 02:21 PM
3rd generation JDM accords and 2nd generation JDM preludes have the B20's that will drop into the 3G

snoopyloopy
06-28-2006, 04:19 PM
so only the b20 from japan will work in the accords
so no usdm
any help will help
i am just wanting to do the swap
no one has it around omaha
no, not "only the b20 from japan" will work. it's the b20a from the 1985-1989 accord/legend or 1984-1987 prelude. (because there's also a b20a for the 1988-1991 prelude that will NOT bolt in.) but you're not limited to japan. if one of those is too hard to come by, you may be able to find on in new zeland, australia, the phillipines, maybe the caribbean. or you could get a b20a1 from europe from the same cars as the jdm b20a, although it has lower numbers. but they can be upped with a few mods.

Versanick
06-28-2006, 05:12 PM
if kids can make over 300whp with vtec d16's, 2g dsm turbos + injectors, a bottom end build, a cheap log turbo manifold, and Crome obd1 tuning, the a20 could be SURE to match it.

that's without head work. I'd love to a20 turbo RIGHT now. I wish I had money I didn't have to sacrifice for rent.

Legend_master
06-28-2006, 05:43 PM
no, not "only the b20 from japan" will work. it's the b20a from the 1985-1989 accord/legend or 1984-1987 prelude. (because there's also a b20a for the 1988-1991 prelude that will NOT bolt in.) but you're not limited to japan. if one of those is too hard to come by, you may be able to find on in new zeland, australia, the phillipines, maybe the caribbean. or you could get a b20a1 from europe from the same cars as the jdm b20a, although it has lower numbers. but they can be upped with a few mods.


the Legend never came with a 4cyl, I think you are talking about the vigor and I dont think they came with a b20.

ZackieDarko
06-28-2006, 06:27 PM
to fix all this i think place racing should come back into business and start making kits for our cars again

mkymonkey
06-28-2006, 07:55 PM
lol...this is like the fifth thread like this


THANKS HONDA TUNNING MAG

Legend_master
06-28-2006, 08:07 PM
lol...this is like the fifth thread like this


THANKS HONDA TUNNING MAG

LOL, I noticed that

snoopyloopy
06-28-2006, 08:54 PM
the Legend never came with a 4cyl, I think you are talking about the vigor and I dont think they came with a b20.
yeah, vigor is what i meant. and some dude on preludepower says he had access to a vigor b20a.
http://preludepower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241060

mkymonkey
06-28-2006, 09:00 PM
to fix all this i think place racing should come back into business and start making kits for our cars again


lol yeah like thats going to happen

snoopyloopy
06-28-2006, 09:16 PM
to fix all this i think place racing should come back into business and start making kits for our cars again
or someone buy the the ones from the dude in the marketplace with the brand new pr mounts (if he still has them) and make copies.

gfrg88
06-28-2006, 09:34 PM
those have been gone for a while now.........

forrest89sei
06-28-2006, 09:41 PM
yeah, vigor is what i meant. and some dude on preludepower says he had access to a vigor b20a.
http://preludepower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241060

Heres a pic of the JDM Vigor
http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/ACCORD/1985-C/image/018_1.jpg

and heres a Translated link to the Honda FactBook

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/ACCORD/1985-C/index.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhonda%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLG, GGLG:2005-34,GGLG:en

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1985/4850604.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhonda%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLG, GGLG:2005-34,GGLG:en

snoopyloopy
06-28-2006, 09:43 PM
those have been gone for a while now.........
oh, i guess i'm out of the loop. did someone buy them to make copies?

and if i didn't know better, i'd say that that was actually a 3g. except for the center part of the tails.

gfrg88
06-29-2006, 08:14 PM
Heres a pic of the JDM Vigor
http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/ACCORD/1985-C/image/018_1.jpg

and heres a Translated link to the Honda FactBook

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/ACCORD/1985-C/index.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhonda%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLG, GGLG:2005-34,GGLG:en

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1985/4850604.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhonda%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLG, GGLG:2005-34,GGLG:en

:lol: that does look exactly like a 3g except for hte center tails lol

crazykamper
06-29-2006, 08:30 PM
lol. ^ that looks exactly like it. lol!!! lol. i thought it was a 3g till someone pointed out the center peice (lets just say i dont pay attention to detail. lol)

speedpenguin
06-30-2006, 05:14 AM
The Vigor is essentially a hopped-up Accord, that's why. I think it was called the Accord Vigor at one point.

crazykamper
06-30-2006, 06:20 AM
makes sense ^

snoopyloopy
06-30-2006, 01:25 PM
hmm....and that model of the vigor never made it stateside did it. does anyone know the specs on those? was it basically like an se-i plus or something?

ZackieDarko
06-30-2006, 02:24 PM
it's teh JDM dude thats teh extra spec :-p