KYB GR-2 vs Tokico Blue

[frantik]

I've always been under the impression that Tokico Blues were slightly better than stock and KYB GR-2 are equivalent to stock stiffness.

But i recently checked the dampers sticky and now it says KYB are 10-15% stiffer than stock, which is similar to Tokico, but KYBs are usually cheaper than tokicos by a decent amount of money.

Has anyone tried out both KYBs and Tokicos and could compare them?


I'm looking for a rear pair to match my koni reds.. i was gonna go with the blues but then i saw that thread.. wouldn't mind saving a few bucks if the performance is similar. I'm probably going to match these shocks with h&r springs

[crazykamper]

the kyb's dont work with a dropped car, they are a STOCK replacement.

tokicos do work with a drop.

[frantik]

yes thats what i thought until i read the "Dampers (aka SHocks) (http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48187)" thread where it says KYB are 10 - 15% stiffer than stock. KYB says this, but is it true?

[crazykamper]

they are stiffer, but they are stock replacements, they will bottom out with any sorda drop.

[ghettogeddy]

and thats what i was asking i only have a 1" drop and thought i could save a few bucks by goin with the kyb's but i just said f it ill get the tokico's

[crazykamper]

be sure to get tokicos if you have any drop. i plan on doing a drop, sometime later in the long time, but for now, im gonna just gonna use my current springs and just use the tokicos.

[frantik]

well i've got konis for up front but from what i gather the rears aren't all that important.. some people use revalved bilsteins up front and regular bilsteins in the back and don't seem to complain

considering i'm only looking for two there probably wont be much of a difference price wise so i'll prolly get tokico, but i would be interested to hear from someone who has used both

[2drSE-i]

actually the struts will be the same length no matter what. tokicos and kyb are both supposed to be 10-15% stiffer than stock, blah blah blah. just go with the brand you trust, for me thats tokico.

[frantik]

i did a google search for kyb vs tokico and hella different boards all have the exact same discussion going on :lol:

http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-4849.html
http://www.mx6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153989&page=2&pp=15
http://www.team-integra.net/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=14&TopicID=63534&PagePosition=1&ThreadPage=1
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?referrerid=51731&t=326028

most people say tokicos are better, some people chime in that they are happy with their kybs, somebody points out that they are supposedly the same, and then lots of peope say kybs are stock replacements. :D


man i wish i could find a pair of koni rears :\ i'll probably go with the blues, so that both my shocks will be color coded :rofl:

[theDougler]

i'm thinking of doing that but i'm going to use eibach sportline springs and probably tokicos, i wanna go slightly stiffer for autox

[crazykamper]

umm, from everything i hear, if you have a drop, get tokico, if u want stock replacement, get gr2

[ghettogeddy]

i'm thinking of doing that but i'm going to use eibach sportline springs and probably tokicos, i wanna go slightly stiffer for autoxso ya i have the ebach pro kit 1" and soon to have to tokicos as soons as ups shows up with them

[Ruggy23]

umm, from everything i hear, if you have a drop, get tokico, if u want stock replacement, get gr2

Today, I am replacing my stock struts with KYB GR2's. Factory struts have 202K miles on them, so that give you an idea how easy my car is driven.

Would it definitely be bad to install the 2.25" / 2.5" lowering spring that I already have? I heard from many that KYBs are not good for this. But, if the car in driven easy, would the KYBs hold up? I like the looks of the drop, but wearing the new struts out so quick doesn't sound good.

RUGGY23

[crazykamper]

it will bottom out on everything, if u are doin any kinda drop, get konis, bilsteins or (theses are pretty much the cheapest) the tokicos,

the gr2s are only a stock replacement, wont do anything for a drop at all.


(800 posts!!!! woohooo)

[MessyHonda]

yeah it all depends on the spring....tokicos can hold up to 250pound springs and that is equal to a 1.5 inch drop. some members just use them and say that they are fine...good luck...you might want to put 2 bump stops so you dont mest up the shock

[2drSE-i]

haha messy is usin my info, now i feel special. crazykamper, stop using information that is not verified. KYB's are supposedly 15% stiffer than stock, just like the tokicos, so theoretically they can handle 250 pounds as well. but a 2.25" or 2.5" drop will fuck up tokicos or KYBs, and provide you with a bouncy as hell ride, because neither of these struts have that much dampering.

[crazykamper]

^ my bad,

does anybody know then FOR SURE how stiff kybs are???

i wanna get h&r springs, so i will see still, most likely will be going with the tokicos either way....

[bullard123]

it will bottom out on everything, if u are doin any kinda drop, get konis, bilsteins or (theses are pretty much the cheapest) the tokicos,

the gr2s are only a stock replacement, wont do anything for a drop at all.


(800 posts!!!! woohooo)

Thats not true dude. I have Tokicos all around with 2.25 inch Sprint springs. And it rides just fine.

[AZmike]

^ my bad,

does anybody know then FOR SURE how stiff kybs are???

i wanna get h&r springs, so i will see still, most likely will be going with the tokicos either way....

All we have are manufacturer claims and user's opinions. Tokico and KYB claim about the same increase in stiffness. Neither is very well suited to springs much stiffer than stock--especially in the front.

[TheWatcher]

i wish i could find a pair of koni rears

Ditto.

If you only have a choice of tokicos and kyb, then go w/ tokicos. People here seem happy/satisfied w/ tokicos. I haven't seen anyone use kyb, so I wouldn't know.

You best performance bet is revalved bilsteins, but you will need to pay more.

Peace.

[crazykamper]

im just gonno go with the tokicos, scince they are both about the same price anyways....

[hondaman1986]

so where can i get tokico's?

[forrest89sei]

so where can i get tokico's?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOKICO-HP-Shocks-struts-Accord-86-89_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33590QQihZ014QQitemZ 330093551855QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[hondaman1986]

thanks mate

[hondaman1986]

what about the kyb agx shocks for the 1988-91 civic will they work and are they any good?

[MessyHonda]

what about the kyb agx shocks for the 1988-91 civic will they work and are they any good?




the only ones i know that would work would be the civic front shocks....idk what year but they are a bit longer than our stock shock so some coil over or lowering springs would help

[hondaman1986]

the only ones i know that would work would be the civic front shocks....idk what year but they are a bit longer than our stock shock so some coil over or lowering springs would help


ok thank you

[skycam_313]

what if you plan on dumping it?.......

then what kind of shocks?

[hondaman1986]

has anyone used the skunk2 full coilovers for the 88 civic? im planing on getting them soon any help?

[b20a86lude]

i have both and i have not put either of them on casue im still under restoration but i was always under the impresseion kybs are perfomance not direct replacment

[MessyHonda]

i have both and i have not put either of them on casue im still under restoration but i was always under the impresseion kybs are perfomance not direct replacment


i think KYBs meet or exced OEM specs and the tokicos are 10-15% stiffer for lowering springs and high performance.

[forrest89sei]

I have the KYB GR2 and they are a good strut.

I replaced my Ghetto Lowered OEM struts with them and the car handles alot better.

But I don't have a educated opinion on stock (WORKING strut) Stiffness vs the KYB.

[hondaman1986]

what about the skunk2 coilovers anyone have any exeriance with them?

[snoopyloopy]

no, since they don't necessarily fit properly, most of us won't spend our money on them.

[hondaman1986]

well i know there not perfect but they fit and i know ppl have them on this site im just looking for how well they work

[hondaman1986]

so can anyone point me in the right direction for a track style coilovers?

i race at pir (portland, or. not arizona)

and i am looking for faster laptimes and my shocks and springs are shot so lap times are horible... can someone give me a website to look at for coilovers like these?


thanks

[reanimator420]

ebay ftw. you can find them at good prices sometimes

[86AccordLxi]

so can anyone point me in the right direction for a track style coilovers?
i race at pir (portland, or. not arizona)
and i am looking for faster laptimes and my shocks and springs are shot so lap times are horible... can someone give me a website to look at for coilovers like these?
thanks

What do you race (what series)?

Alex

[hondaman1986]

no seires just open laps and practices with some friends and its a track only car