F20A in 3G

[Xulfiqar]

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6816/hood1gz1.th.jpg (http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood1gz1.jpg)
this car originally had an A16A1 motor. put in this F20A,
car has custom (self) built engine mounts and custom (self) made wiring harness with F20A's PT2 ECU, the best part is how this engine loves to rev (88 mm stroke)
next plan is to hybrid this with an H22 head and P13 pistons along with P13 ECM

[Legend_master]

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6816/hood1gz1.th.jpg (http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hood1gz1.jpg)
this car originally had an A16A1 motor. put in this F20A,
car has custom (self) built engine mounts and custom (self) made wiring harness with F20A's PT2 ECU, the best part is how this engine loves to rev (88 mm stroke)
next plan is to hybrid this with an H22 head and P13 pistons along with P13 ECM


Very nice dude, lets get some pics of those mounts. I believe this is the first f20 I have ever seen in a 3g. What did you do for axles? shift linkage?

[ghettogeddy]

yes pics and who mcuh for u to make a kit for it lol shipping would be hell but i think i would pay it lol

[FyreDaug]

thats a 3g?

[MIK3]

F20A is a JDM 4g Si engine isn't it? Does this mean other 4g engines would fit?

[Legend_master]

he is from Pakistan.

[Xulfiqar]

the mount arrangement I have made enables me to drop an H22A into it without mods Its basically the same arrangement. Ive even prewired VTEC into my wiring harness so I can just plug the ECU and connect the VTS, KS and VTPS wires.
for the shifter I used an accord shifter and custom cables and the axles are custom made from 4g and 3g parts, had to trim the front and rear crossmember as the H22 tranny is too wide and the engine is fatter due to the balancershafts. I made a custom header to make the package slimmer as you can see in the pic (under the sheild i.e.).
As no-one wants to mod 3geez here, they think of it as an oldman's car - the feeling is priceless when you beat the living daylights out of a ricer civic, corolla or integra at a stoplight.


F20A is a JDM 4g Si engine isn't it? Does this mean other 4g engines would fit?
yes it is the JDM Accord Si engine, the only 4g accord that came with LSD tranny, 4WS and full nappa interior

[Legend_master]

the mount arrangement I have made enables me to drop an H22A into it without mods Its basically the same arrangement. Ive even prewired VTEC into my wiring harness so I can just plug the ECU and connect the VTS, KS and VTPS wires.
for the shifter I used an accord shifter and custom cables and the axles are custom made from 4g and 3g parts, had to trim the front and rear crossmember as the H22 tranny is too wide and the engine is fatter due to the balancershafts. I made a custom header to make the package slimmer as you can see in the pic (under the sheild i.e.).
As no-one wants to mod 3geez here, they think of it as an oldman's car - the feeling is priceless when you beat the living daylights out of a ricer civic, corolla or integra at a stoplight.


Very good work man, try and get some shots of the mounts. i would love to see how that thing was stuck in there. Would you be able to make more mounts? If you can or cannot either way this shit rocks.

[FyreDaug]

You only have 1 picture?

[Xulfiqar]

actually my dumbass pal took the USB cable of my camera and my bluetooth dongle- so I cant copy anymore. I'll get more pics very soon

[MIK3]

Indeed man, this is some interesting stuff. I have a feeling at the rate your going, you'll be able to take more than ricer civics, corollas and integras.

[MessyHonda]

wow that is cool yes you need to post some more pics...thoes mounts are worth thier weight in gold. i only know of 2 3geez with H22...do you have a shop or did you do all this stuff in your garage and lots of free time?

[A20A1]

Damn that things is right up against the firewall.

[wprocomp]

thats what I was gonna say-id cut some firewall to keep it from hitting it

[ghettogeddy]

is the ac still hooked up and working too

[A20A1]

thats what I was gonna say-id cut some firewall to keep it from hitting it


nah for me it has nothing to do with hitting... but rather the ease of maintaining the engine and it's parts is half the joy of owning a simple old school car.

an intake manifold so close to the firewall may be harder to remove.

I perfer to keep things simple...


and carbureted :lol:


I'm turned off to some new cars just because of the way they try to cram everything in a small space making it harder to work on.

[MessyHonda]

nah for me it has nothing to do with hitting... but rather the ease of maintaining the engine and it's parts is half the joy of owning a simple old school car.
an intake manifold so close to the firewall may be harder to remove.
I perfer to keep things simple...
and carbureted :lol:

lol wonder why every one want to go fuel injection...cuz no one knows how to work on carbs no more like the old days when all they had was carbs.

[A18A]

very very very very very nice work you done there :thumbup: when i saw the thread i thought of another dreamer or something, but you made it happen, good stuff :) is that the stock radiator though??

[Xulfiqar]

yes the A/C is operational

is the ac still hooked up and working too


Damn that things is right up against the firewall.

I flipped the TPS sensor so it does not touch the firewall - and the engine doesnt move much (as in at all) because Ive also utilised the great trademark dogbone torque rod of the 3gee inserted with a solid rubber.

the manifold is also easy to remove because its in two pieces.

[A18A]

I flipped the TPS sensor so it does not touch the firewall - and the engine doesnt move much (as in at all) because Ive also utilised the great trademark dogbone torque rod of the 3gee inserted with a solid rubber.

the manifold is also easy to remove because its in two pieces. id like to see pics of that :D

and ill ask again just coz i wanna know lol. what kinda radiator is that? ive never seen one in both 4geez and 3geez were the cap is all the way to the side instead of in the middle

[Xulfiqar]

very very very very very nice work you done there :thumbup: when i saw the thread i thought of another dreamer or something, but you made it happen, good stuff :) is that the stock radiator though??


Thanks

the radiator is from a JDM 1996 toyota corolla 2.0 turbodiesel. aluminum core with plastic tanks. had to make miniature top mounts for it to fit.

[A18A]

so them radiators are a near perfect fit? can you get pics of the mounts? sounds like a interesting swap :) sounds like it beats these plastic honda radiators that get cracked :-/

[MessyHonda]

so them radiators are a near perfect fit? can you get pics of the mounts? sounds like a interesting swap :) sounds like it beats these plastic honda radiators that get cracked :-/

not if you get a Koyo....still keeps the car cold even with the fans no working....lol but yeah tell your friend to give you back your cable so you can upload some pics.

[Xulfiqar]

I'll upload pics as soon as I get my USB cable back and I wash the engine, its damn filthy as you can see.

the radiator lines up perfectly but you dont have a thermosensor in the bottom tank, just screw it in somewhere after your thermostat. The mini mounts are easy to make just roll some nice MS sheet that would sit on the radiator tank receptacles toyota use then weld a short tube to adapt it into the accord upper frame round mounts,

[smufguy]

looks nice, and would like to see more pictures.

So wait, you are saying that your F20A has a bore of 85mm ?

[A20A1]

I flipped the TPS sensor so it does not touch the firewall - and the engine doesnt move much (as in at all) because Ive also utilised the great trademark dogbone torque rod of the 3gee inserted with a solid rubber.

the manifold is also easy to remove because its in two pieces.


Nice :)

[snoopyloopy]

didn't the f20a come with vtec? or was there a vtec and non-vtec version? either way, good work, man. nice to see it up and running.

[Xulfiqar]

here are the pics

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4360/frontmounttq0.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frontmounttq0.jpg)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2742/rearlowermountpx8.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearlowermountpx8.jpg)

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8463/rearuppermountki6.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearuppermountki6.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8102/timingsidemountjl8.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timingsidemountjl8.jpg)

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5089/torquerodfv4.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=torquerodfv4.jpg)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7633/trannymountse4.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trannymountse4.jpg)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8455/harnesstrunkwi8.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=harnesstrunkwi8.jpg)

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4531/harnessshotpg9.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=harnessshotpg9.jpg)

sorry for the engine being so dirty - it rained here and I had to drive home 30 kms

[MessyHonda]

looks good...yeah clean up the engine bay and car.....some people might want a set of thoes brakets.

[Xulfiqar]

looks nice, and would like to see more pictures.
So wait, you are saying that your F20A has a bore of 85mm ?


yes it does have an 85mm bore.

[smufguy]

lol all i see is dust covered motor and torque rod mounts, anything with the shot of the transmission or the block. you know, the whole picture, bigger pictur ;)

[Steve_Si]

didn't the f20a come with vtec? or was there a vtec and non-vtec version? either way, good work, man. nice to see it up and running.

You might be thinking of the F20B? It's a vtec only SOHC or DOHC engine.

I've never seen a vtec 4th gen. All the vtec 5th gen have always been a 2.2, whether it's SOHC or DOHC. All NZ models were single cam :( If it weren't for the jap imports, all our 4/5/6/7 gen 4 cylinder cars would be rubbish.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i wonder what happened to this guy???

[Accord88LX]

very nice, for sure