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shepherd79
08-29-2002, 11:49 AM
ok, i my car doesn't want to run anymore. it runs like shit. it is running on pure gas. it is sucks.
is there someking air valve that controls idle or something like that?
if you want simptoms please look here http://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5472
thanks guys.
i don't know what do to. i may just get a sladge hammer and bash that car.

A20A1
08-29-2002, 05:42 PM
check the float level when the car is runnig and turn your mixture screw in more.

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 06:07 PM
i tried, it doesn't help.
it is something else.
oohhh if i only new what to plug on the carb. i want to get rid of the vacuum so bad.
i need a picture of the carb from UK or somewhere else but US. i want to compare and see if i can plug some lines. and remove that black box.

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 06:08 PM
hey can it be the computer?
if it is, will computer from 88 Lx auto work in my car?

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:21 PM
you can remove all the lines

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:23 PM
but you have to remove the choke and fast idle and fuel vent to the charchoal canister and plug plug plug all the vacuum line go k-razy... mwahahahaha! :D

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:27 PM
actually you need to keep the ABC's (I mean the Air Jet Controller... just un-bolt it and hook the lines back up the way they were.

there are some funny diaphragms inside the black box that make it tough to decide what is actually nessecary to the carb running.

you're in about the same place where i decided "the heck with it" and pulled it all off.

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 06:29 PM
ok where is ACCORD EX? i want to see his carb. he has one with no black box, and i think he still have choke.

MIKE where are you man?

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:32 PM
right here... and Mikey does have a black box... but it's not in the black box... everything is mounted externally. you don't need anything since you have the mechanical secondary... just plug and remove things from the carb.... strip it down the the basic 2 barrel look of the weber... running without choke isn't a bad thing... it just means you need to work a bit harder to get the car started on cold mornings

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:34 PM
I'll try and get my old keihin out of the box... the way it sits now is the way i took it off so I should be able to let you know everything.

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 06:38 PM
thanks man, if you have pictures of the lines i would have to plug up i would appreciate. my email is [email protected]
thanks again. i don't really care about choke. i just want this thing run without anyproblem.

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 06:39 PM
hey man you are not online, AIM.
i am Kengury79.

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 06:41 PM
where is Air Jet conroller located?
and how can i check it. may be it is the problem.

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:45 PM
hmm I have a hunch cause this happened to me.... you know the venturies you removed? and you thought they were the main jets... well make sure they are screwed in tight... also make sure there isn't a gap that fuel can leak from... and make sure you didn't remove the pin form inside the primary venturi since this helps break the fuel up...

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:46 PM
the air jet controller is near the black box... or the coil... it has 3 vacuum tubes and they are labled "A B C"

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 06:46 PM
well i didn't touch them on my carb in the car. i just drilled the jets out. i didn't do anything to them

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:47 PM
r u sure you didn't drill the hole too far... LOL just kidding.

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:48 PM
how did you drill the jets withe the carb still on the car? you would have needed to remove the jet cover thats under the float window... and there it too much crap in the way to ge the right angle.

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 06:49 PM
nooooooo,
i am sure it has something to do with air jet controller or something like that, because it is running way too rich and it looks like it just doesn't get any air in there or something.

A20A1
08-29-2002, 06:55 PM
I just realized my mechanical secondary is off by about 1mm - 2mm... which means no WOT.... and it will open later then what might happen under full throttle with the vacuum secondary... I still think the mechanical beats the vacuum 5:1

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 06:58 PM
yeah i like that better too

A20A1
08-29-2002, 07:00 PM
look down the barrels and watch the choke and watch the throttle plates... have someone press the gas or you can flip the throttle from the side of the carb... make sure it's all working. oh


hmm are you sure there isn't a vacuum leak... cause just one vacuum line broken or disconnected could mess everything up.
I really wish I was there... if i just could listen to it I might find the problem pretty quick.

if all else fails throw on the spare carb

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 07:03 PM
i may take the carb from the other car and trough there and see what it does.
yes i am sure about vacuum leaks. that was the first thing i did.
hmmm i wonder if i can recond the sound. and post it.

A20A1
08-29-2002, 07:07 PM
nope wouldn't be the same... I need the audio subtleties and i doubt my speakers could reproduce any sound with quality.

and you're sure it's not a disconnected ground wire from the valve cover... and its not a fuse... I say just double check things, it only take a few minuets... I'm about to go out so I'll check back later tonight... maybe Eric will come in with an answer, but since you drilled the jets and possible changed other things it's hard to tell.

shepherd79
08-29-2002, 07:07 PM
yeah i am gonna have so much fun tomorrow.
well, thanks for your help man.

shepherd79
08-30-2002, 09:24 AM
ok i fixed, it was distributor. piece of shit.
how i have to find time to swap the carbs again for my redrilled one.
this one just by pressing the gas i can feel that it will suffer from fuel hunger.

doug
08-30-2002, 09:57 AM
this is one of the most puzzling threads I've read. It starts out with a way too rich carb theme and turns into a distributor that crapped out overnight for some unexplained reason along with a carb that is now way too lean. Did I miss something? And what exactly was wrong with the distributor?

shepherd79
08-30-2002, 10:19 AM
i guess the way no one can understand the way mike and i talk.
well i don't know what is wrong with distributor. i guess it was time for him to die.

A20A1
08-31-2002, 06:29 PM
hmm... it wasn't the stator plates? or the Igniter?

Check the wires to the Ignitrer
Chech the gap between the rotor and the 2 stator plates.
I'm not referring to the Rotor that comes in contact with the Cap.. there is another rotor beneath it and it has 4 edges sticking out of it. you'll also nottice a plate on opposite ends of the rotor... those are the sator plates... I've had trouble with them before and also the igniter wires... so just look them over.

shepherd79
08-31-2002, 06:30 PM
i don't really care about that anymore. i got another on it and it works just fine.

A20A1
08-31-2002, 08:20 PM
ok

POS carb
09-01-2002, 12:52 AM
fuck you made me read all that and I thought I had a good theory and now it's fine? :flipa:

A20A1
09-01-2002, 03:25 PM
lol, I normally read the top 3 posts and then skip straight to the last.