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Crazybird
09-12-2006, 12:43 PM
ok since i figured out i can get my rust done for a resonable price i was wondering what is this b20 motor cause i have a a20a1 in my car its carbed and auto :(
so i was wondering how much of a hassel would it be to either put in a a efi with manual tranny or one of these b20s ive heard about or is that even for our car...
can sumone help me thx
MessyHonda
09-12-2006, 12:49 PM
ok since i figured out i can get my rust done for a resonable price i was wondering what is this b20 motor cause i have a a20a1 in my car its carbed and auto :(
so i was wondering how much of a hassel would it be to either put in a a efi with manual tranny or one of these b20s ive heard about or is that even for our car...
can sumone help me thx
http://www.3geez.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7
yeah its not worth it if your car is not fuel injected yet....plus you just cant get a b20 with out like a 7 month wait. and you have to get it imported....you might as well stick a b18 since you can get thoes here
Crazybird
09-12-2006, 12:59 PM
what are the b motors where do they come from and whats so special about them
MessyHonda
09-12-2006, 01:14 PM
well our cars only came with the a series engine that ranged from 98 to 120hp and the b series came with 160 and they have more aftermarket support...they came in integras.
snoopyloopy
09-12-2006, 03:27 PM
well our cars only came with the a series engine that ranged from 98 to 120hp and the b series came with 160 and they have more aftermarket support...they came in integras.
wrong. don't listen to this man if you're after the engines that bolt in. the b18a/b or b18c1/c5 from an integra will NOT bolt into our cars. the b18a from the 1984-1987 prelude (not 1988-1991) is the same b18a from the 1986-1989 accord which is the one we're after if you want a b18. it might be better for you since it's carbed so you wouldn't have to do an fi swap. however, a b18a is even rarer than a b20a. but since you said you would consider putting in an a20a3 anyway, you might as well do a b20a and do the fi swap at the same time. the b20a you want is also from the '84-'87 prelude/'86-'89 accord. these are a bit more plentiful, though a 5 speed one is harder to find than an auto. this b20a is not to be confused with the jdm b20a from the 1988-1991 prelude which uses the same engine code. you have to check serial numbers to be sure. also, the b20a5/7/9/# from that prelude will not bolt in either. neither will the b20b/z from a crv. also, the b18a/b20a that fit our cars do not have aftermarket support specifically for them. but parts from other b-series engines do fit perfectly or with minor adjustments.
DDRaptor
09-12-2006, 05:09 PM
excuse me the b20a the JDM one is the one with 160 hp, is that the same one in American CRV's cause my father has a crv i'm just trying to make some connections.
I also have an A20a1 carb looking for info on the b20. thanks not trying to get in a thread.
Crazybird
09-12-2006, 06:28 PM
ok just another question which b20a works and which b18a works and which cars are they from.... thats all i want to know
oh and what would i have to do to switch from carbed to fi
but what if figured out is a b18a or b20a from 84-87 prelude or an 86- 89 accord will bolt right in? with same engine mounts and everything??
MessyHonda
09-12-2006, 08:04 PM
wrong. don't listen to this man if you're after the engines that bolt in. the b18a/b or b18c1/c5 from an integra will NOT bolt into our cars. the b18a from the 1984-1987 prelude (not 1988-1991) is the same b18a from the 1986-1989 accord which is the one we're after if you want a b18. it might be better for you since it's carbed so you wouldn't have to do an fi swap. however, a b18a is even rarer than a b20a. but since you said you would consider putting in an a20a3 anyway, you might as well do a b20a and do the fi swap at the same time. the b20a you want is also from the '84-'87 prelude/'86-'89 accord. these are a bit more plentiful, though a 5 speed one is harder to find than an auto. this b20a is not to be confused with the jdm b20a from the 1988-1991 prelude which uses the same engine code. you have to check serial numbers to be sure. also, the b20a5/7/9/# from that prelude will not bolt in either. neither will the b20b/z from a crv. also, the b18a/b20a that fit our cars do not have aftermarket support specifically for them. but parts from other b-series engines do fit perfectly or with minor adjustments.
sorry snoopyloops. next time i will take more time....wut i ment to say is that our cars came with a a20 engine ranging in 98-120hp and the JDM b20 series came with 160hp and the Integra engine(b18) can be swaped with special mounts and axles and it also came with 160hp....i knoe wut you are tring to say but if you are going to go threw the truble of puting a JDM b18 you should just get a b18 and get the mounts and do the fuel injection swap.
Crazybird
09-12-2006, 08:25 PM
yes but what do i have to do to change to fuel injection and where can i get this mysterious engine
MessyHonda
09-12-2006, 08:32 PM
yes but what do i have to do to change to fuel injection and where can i get this mysterious engine
japan or new zeland....its the JDM b20 that came in JDM85-88 accords and 2nd gen ludes.
Crazybird
09-12-2006, 08:43 PM
so i can get it from a 2nd gen prelude made in canada or whatever?
AccordEpicenter
09-12-2006, 08:49 PM
go A20-Turbo!
forrest89sei
09-12-2006, 08:54 PM
so i can get it from a 2nd gen prelude made in canada or whatever?
No you have to get it from a JDM or EDM 2Gee Lude or 3Gee Accord or a 2gee Vigor
First off I'd do a A20A3/A4 Swap
since the FI is better than carb and you'll have a good HP Gain.
the 1986-87 FI engine is rated at 110 HP and the 1988-89 is rated at 122HP vs the Carb engine at 98HP
now you can get the A20A3/A4 out of any 1986-89
Canadian EX-i/SE-i
USA LX-i/SE-i
Read this for what you need for a swap and how to do it:
http://www.geocities.com/carotman/howto/eficonv/EFIconversion.htm
http://accordproject.com/eficonversion.htm
go B20-Turbo :P
didnt B18's that came in the 3geez only came dual carbed? what if you do a efi swap on a b18? or bolt a b18 tranny onto a b20, that would work right?
but i would recommend just getting a cheap a3 or a4 manual and bolting it in, will save ya ALOT of money, plus u dont gotta wait for ever and it prolly wont be worth waiting how ever many months for a engine that only has a few more horses than the A series and ya dont make the most of it or mod it at all
crazybird i know were there is a b20
MessyHonda
09-13-2006, 10:51 AM
crazybird i know were there is a b20
your volvo?
no not my 34 year old volvo B20B carbed motor
the motor is sitting in storage at a meacanics shop.... not to far away from me not sure wat kinda shape its in just know its sitting there
MessyHonda
09-13-2006, 11:27 AM
the motor is sitting in storage at a meacanics shop.... not to far away from me not sure wat kinda shape its in just know its sitting there
get it for me. thanks
Crazybird
09-13-2006, 12:47 PM
screw u man its mine if i can ge tmy hands on it 1ajs can u check to see what shape its in for me dude cause id omg be very happy if i could get that u dont even know lol
MessyHonda
09-13-2006, 01:35 PM
screw u man its mine if i can ge tmy hands on it 1ajs can u check to see what shape its in for me dude cause id omg be very happy if i could get that u dont even know lol
LOL omg man... you first have to convert the car to fuel injection...and that is going to be a bitch...my car is already fuel injected but wutever.
snoopyloopy
09-13-2006, 02:15 PM
ok just another question which b20a works and which b18a works and which cars are they from.... thats all i want to know
oh and what would i have to do to switch from carbed to fi
but what if figured out is a b18a or b20a from 84-87 prelude or an 86- 89 accord will bolt right in? with same engine mounts and everything??
well, not quite. you have to weld a mount for the tranny on the passenger side, but all the rest of the mounts are the same. but that's minor compared to getting in any other b-series. and read the info thread in the b20 section of the forum. it'll tell you what cars they came in.
No you have to get it from a JDM or EDM 2Gee Lude or 3Gee Accord or a 2gee Vigor
First off I'd do a A20A3/A4 Swap
since the FI is better than carb and you'll have a good HP Gain.
the 1986-87 FI engine is rated at 110 HP and the 1988-89 is rated at 122HP vs the Carb engine at 98HP
well, if he can get the b20 relatively quickly or at least by time he gathers all the stuff for the efi swap, he might as well do them at the same time. i'd think it'd be much easier physically. when it comes down to troubleshooting though, it might be better to go a20 first then b20.
go B20-Turbo :P
didnt B18's that came in the 3geez only came dual carbed? what if you do a efi swap on a b18? or bolt a b18 tranny onto a b20, that would work right?
yeah, but they still put out 130 hp. not bad. and you probably could put the a20/b20 efi im on the b18. which may bump it up to even more then the teg b18a for hp. and yes, you can bolt the b18 tranny on the b20. one of the fellows here has that combo.
was rong its a D16a1 has a trany on it came outa 89 acura. probly would need some new gaskets the guy told me since crazybird is a friend he can have it for 100$ the guy does not know anything els about the motor it came with some ludes he bought
http://www.pointdouglas.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/502.jpg
http://www.pointdouglas.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/501.jpg
http://www.pointdouglas.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/503.jpg
trany sticker...
http://www.pointdouglas.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/504.jpg
o and its got most of the mounts still atached.
there for civics arnt they?
MessyHonda
09-13-2006, 03:49 PM
yeah i thought that the d series engines were only SOHC. werid i would do a compresion test to find out if its good
snoopyloopy
09-13-2006, 03:59 PM
no, there was the d16a1 (that one) that was in the 1g tegs that was dohc and another one from the 1g tegs that was also dohc. they have 117 hp, i think. but they aren't a bolt-in swap into a civic. there was also the dohc zc which is a d-series as well, just different name. but even if you can't use it easily in the accord, grab it anyway. you can probably part it out on ebay and get more $100 for some of the parts.
MessyHonda
09-13-2006, 04:24 PM
no, there was the d16a1 (that one) that was in the 1g tegs that was dohc and another one from the 1g tegs that was also dohc. they have 117 hp, i think. but they aren't a bolt-in swap into a civic. there was also the dohc zc which is a d-series as well, just different name. but even if you can't use it easily in the accord, grab it anyway. you can probably part it out on ebay and get more $100 for some of the parts.
yeah clean it up and you can sell it for at least 400...thanks again snooplyloopy for the info.
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