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Oldblueaccord
09-18-2006, 10:46 PM
I think there discod ? I thought it was a fluke and I got something else last LOF. Now oil pressure is lower then normal maybe 50 psi at 3000 rpm instead of 55. Im changing it soon. I think Im gonna try some other over sized filters. Ill report back if I find a suitable one.


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lostforawhile
09-18-2006, 11:10 PM
what brand is that? I've had the best luck with the bosch. a lot of cheap filters will drop your pressure. fram is the worst. most of them the relief valve is so weak it stays open most of the time.

A20A1
09-18-2006, 11:19 PM
I buy the K&N gold, 1004 I think was the part #

We share the same filter screw pretty much with other honda motors.

Oldblueaccord
09-19-2006, 12:51 AM
its puralator sorry shoulda added that in. Its over sized about and inch maybe more. I have been using it forever.

Yeah most of the honda cars up to 2003 and about 100 other models it fit. Kinda wierd desicion I think but who knows marketing?



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MessyHonda
09-19-2006, 09:10 AM
i use fram...i think its like 4 bucks for the filter...but the K&N is like 8-9.....too much to be spending....anyways i might get some guages for oil preasure, water temp and a/f mix ratio....i saw them on craigslist for 60 bucks for the whole set.

AZmike
09-19-2006, 11:03 AM
Yes, the 24458 is discontinued and has been for a while. I haven't been able to get any for more than six months. There have been several discussions on bobistheoilguy forums.

carotman
09-19-2006, 11:45 AM
I always use the K&N on the ACcord and the Valvoline MaxLife on the Civic. Both are good filters.

DDRaptor
09-19-2006, 03:03 PM
Yup A20 it's the HP 1004 I use only K&N and it's 14.99 here. but i trust the quality

guaynabo89
09-19-2006, 03:07 PM
Yes, the 24458 is discontinued and has been for a while. I haven't been able to get any for more than six months. There have been several discussions on bobistheoilguy forums.


Same here. I used to use the bigger 3g filter on my 4th and 6th gen just because of the greater oil capacity.

Just gotta experiment and look for some nice large filters

AccordEpicenter
09-19-2006, 06:02 PM
ive heard that wix are very good for the price, so thats what i use.

Oldblueaccord
09-20-2006, 06:53 AM
well heres a partial update:

The Honda filter is now differant as well. Taller but over all smaller around. Dunno why Part #15400-PLM-A02 made in Canada.

I looked at Pur # L14610 and L30165. I bought the 30165 its quite a bit bigger,taller but the gasket is larger and the threaded flange is an "outtie" not an "inny" like our filters. I ll give this one a go. The 14610 is a no go.

EDIT: ok this is kinda bad. The Honda filter has Honeywell on it. I think its a fram.


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smufguy
09-20-2006, 11:42 AM
3312 is the number from BOSCH for our cars that i use.

the above (3312) is the same number for the 4th gen accords so whatever the 4th gen accords use stock from honda, should be able to fit urs with no prob.

Oldblueaccord
09-20-2006, 12:20 PM
yeah all the honda/ acuras use then same filter up to like 2003 then there a switch over to another same filter. I think the NSX and the S2000 are only differant.

Honda must have Honeywell/ old allied /siganal old bendix corp. making there filters now.

Im not gonna get to change my oil today tommorrow I think I will try it out those other filters.


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carotman
09-21-2006, 04:17 AM
Honeywell is a FRAM division... yuck :(

BOSCH filters are nice, Wix too (Napa stuff)

smufguy
09-21-2006, 07:38 AM
Honeywell is a FRAM division... yuck :(

I have seen the dealership here use base Valvoline oil to do the oil changes and on the shelves they got that stupid Genuine Honda Motor Oil bullshit. thats why i never change mine at the dealer

carotman
09-21-2006, 09:45 AM
Yeah, that bulk oil supply they have is definitely not what they have on the shelves. I use Motul 5500 5W40 & K/N Filter in the Accord and Mobil-1 & Valvoline Max-Life filter in the Civic.

I used the Napa Gold filter but the MAX Life is made py Purolator and is cheaper than the Napa Gold so I just switched brands.

guaynabo89
09-21-2006, 04:00 PM
I think there discod ? I thought it was a fluke and I got something else last LOF. Now oil pressure is lower then normal maybe 50 psi at 3000 rpm instead of 55. Im changing it soon. I think Im gonna try some other over sized filters. Ill report back if I find a suitable one.
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At 3 grand my oil psi is at about 65-70. I have a k&n

lostforawhile
09-21-2006, 05:40 PM
Honeywell is a FRAM division... yuck :(

BOSCH filters are nice, Wix too (Napa stuff)
they did that comparison on one of the prelude forums where they took the filters completly apart and measured filter media,looked at constuction etc. they found the stp filter is identical to the bosch in every way. actually if you turn them over and look at them from the inlet side,they even have the same id markings. probably the same filter. whatever you do don't buy the fram,I already knew they were crap,but this just confirmed it. the relief valve is so weak on a lot of the frams that you can push it open with your finger. their filter media is also very poor quality and has a tendency to come apart and travel through your engine. they also contain cardboard which of course comes apart in time in hot oil. I have personally taken apart frams, and found the string used to hold the filter together during assembly left in the filter. it cracks me up that one of the department stores here has a ton of frams clearanced at 50 cents apiece,and still no one will buy them. the reason fram exists is because they have gotten deals for places like walmart to cary only theirr brand. a lot of car ignorant people buy them because,guess what? they were at Walmart,I guess they must be ok. for a note,they found the filter honda carries for the usdm market is identical to the fram. in other words crap. the JDM filter is just like the bosch. I believe the canadian filter is also like the bosch. if you try to order the jdm,you'll end up with the usdm filter. figures.

Oldblueaccord
09-21-2006, 06:04 PM
At 3 grand my oil psi is at about 65-70. I have a k&n

Yeah its coming to the end my friend. Im hoping maybe make it to 300k miles well see.

I pulled the pan off a few years ago and never found any hint of bearing material but they bound to be warn some by now.

I think a few of those sustained 100 +mph blast in Montana kinda took some life from the motor maybe.



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smufguy
09-22-2006, 05:57 AM
65-70psi is a heck of a lot of pressure when the stock specs are only 54-65psi. What kinda sender and gauge are you using? Mechanical or electronic. You did not run into any valve train probs with that high of an oil pressure.

EX-ileAccord
09-22-2006, 06:08 AM
just so you guys know fram = motomaster witch is canadain tire brand

lostforawhile
09-22-2006, 01:37 PM
65-70psi is a heck of a lot of pressure when the stock specs are only 54-65psi. What kinda sender and gauge are you using? Mechanical or electronic. You did not run into any valve train probs with that high of an oil pressure.
my pressure is about the same. thats not an unusual amount for honda. these cars run pressure a little higher then american cars since they don't have cam bearings. the pressure is the only thing keeping the cam from eating the hardened aluminum bearing caps. my car runs about 40 psi at idle and around 50-55 at cruise at just over 2000 rpm with the engine fully warm. I can easily hit 80 psi near redline. when it's cool out I have gotten the pressure close to 100 psi. this is the same amount i've always had through a number of different gauges. right now I'm running a sunpro retro series gauge with a distribution block on the firewall and a pressure sender for the warning light set at 30 psi,vs 3 psi for the original. the underhood gauge matches the in car gauge as far as pressure. this is with a bosch filter and Castrol syntec blend 10w30
Yeah its coming to the end my friend. Im hoping maybe make it to 300k miles well see.

I pulled the pan off a few years ago and never found any hint of bearing material but they bound to be warn some by now.

I think a few of those sustained 100 +mph blast in Montana kinda took some life from the motor maybe.
why nor rebuild the motor before it fails? usually if your cyl walls are in good condition all they need is a hone,new rings,new main and rod bearings,and a rebuilt cyl head and you'll be in good shape

guaynabo89
09-22-2006, 04:44 PM
65-70psi is a heck of a lot of pressure when the stock specs are only 54-65psi. What kinda sender and gauge are you using? Mechanical or electronic. You did not run into any valve train probs with that high of an oil pressure.


Autometer C2 electronic with seperate sender.:thumbup:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid194/pcc59e610e096123f597a12b3037a4f30/f17a507a.jpg

And no no valvetrain probs at all.

Oldblueaccord
09-22-2006, 07:18 PM
well heres a partial update:
The Honda filter is now differant as well. Taller but over all smaller around. Dunno why Part #15400-PLM-A02 made in Canada.
I looked at Pur # L14610 and L30165. I bought the 30165 its quite a bit bigger,taller but the gasket is larger and the threaded flange is an "outtie" not an "inny" like our filters. I ll give this one a go. The 14610 is a no go.
EDIT: ok this is kinda bad. The Honda filter has Honeywell on it. I think its a fram.
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Ding Ding we have a winner. Puralator L30165 few inches taller might be a problem for people that still have there air box on the car. The gasket is larger but it seems to mate well to the filter housing. I'll be checking for leaks the next few days.

And just for a laugher at myself. I changed out the trans fluid as well as as the power steering fluid. Putting the plug back in the oil pan I realized i got a split CV boot so I need to change out the shaft this week so much for new trans fluid it will have to get drained again :rant:


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guaynabo89
09-22-2006, 09:38 PM
Ding Ding we have a winner. Puralator L30165 few inches taller might be a problem for people that still have there air box on the car. The gasket is larger but it seems to mate well to the filter housing. I'll be checking for leaks the next few days.



What car is that filter for?

Oldblueaccord
09-22-2006, 09:45 PM
Have no clue. It was on the shelf at Advanced auto parts and it matched my list. Ill try and get another an shoot some pictures along with the Honda filter and the correct Pur. filter as well.
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AZmike
09-23-2006, 01:16 PM
I changed out the trans fluid as well as as the power steering fluid. Putting the plug back in the oil pan I realized i got a split CV boot so I need to change out the shaft this week so much for new trans fluid it will have to get drained again :rant:
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You could always drain in into a clean container and reuse it.

guaynabo89
10-29-2006, 10:06 AM
Have no clue. It was on the shelf at Advanced auto parts and it matched my list. Ill try and get another an shoot some pictures along with the Honda filter and the correct Pur. filter as well.
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whatever happened to this?

any leaks?

pics?

Oldblueaccord
10-29-2006, 04:15 PM
Got about 2400 miles on it running good so far. As far as pictures well heh I can take them but to get them set up takes me alotta time I just havent found sorry. I'm more of a car person then a computer person.

PM a public E-mail and I will shoot some here in a day or two. I gotta take a bunch of junk chinese/india made parts back to AA anyway and I ll get another one and try to figure out what car it goes on.

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gp02a0083
10-29-2006, 07:59 PM
wow u guys r using 5-30 and 5-40 dam i thought b/c my engine got 135k on it i went to 10-30

Oldblueaccord
10-29-2006, 08:36 PM
Huh

I use 10-40 summer 10-30 one change winter Havoline. 271k and counting.

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Ichiban
11-10-2006, 10:30 AM
Ha! I run 15w-40 CL-4 in pretty much everything, from the chev's 350 to the Toy's 22R. The current clearances on the 22R are 0.0021 mains and 0.0018-19 on the rods. The engine builder in town here actually recommends Diesel grade engine oil for the detergent additive package and extra film strength. I run an AC Delco PF-13C filter on the toyota, which happens to be identical to the Mopar filter for the mid 90's truck engines. Seems they're both made by Wix. They're the same size, shape, screw thread, and both have a "3" and "4" stamped in the same place in the same font on the top of the filter. I'm also pretty sure that the Motomaster filters from Canadian Tire are not Fram, as I use a Motomaster instead of the Fram on my 82's 1.6l. Its almost twice the size as the Fram. I bet Wix, Purolater and Bosch make 90% of the OE filters out there.

StressSolutions
11-12-2006, 07:15 AM
One of my other cars is a Hyundai XG350L...3.5 litres, which is a lot bigger than the Accord 2.0, yes? SAME oil filter.

Oldblueaccord
01-11-2007, 02:40 PM
Just wanted to update this with a picture and all. I'm on the second one so far so good. I'm not sure if there would be a problem with this filter on a carbed car. I also do not have all the air box stuff on my car as well and it may interfear with the length of the filter.

http://www1.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=143182445/PictureID=2672913159/a=85267970_85267970/t_=85267970

http://www1.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=143182445/PictureID=2672913159/a=85267970_85267970/t_=85267970

The blue is the Honda filter of course the middle is the Puralator and the one on the right is a generic replacement for a Fram I had laying around.

The only negative is this filter is about 6.35$ at Advanced Auto parts but it is right on the shelf.


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russiankid
01-11-2007, 05:56 PM
Mobile filters. Have good experience with them.

MessyHonda
01-11-2007, 05:58 PM
Mobile filters. Have good experience with them.


just put one on my dx last night and changed the oil...man did it feel smooth.

Cheeseburger
01-11-2007, 06:09 PM
i use k&n gold filters part # hp-1004

russiankid
01-11-2007, 07:29 PM
just put one on my dx last night and changed the oil...man did it feel smooth.
:rockon:

Oldblueaccord
02-22-2011, 07:58 AM
Ding Ding we have a winner. Puralator L30165 few inches taller might be a problem for people that still have there air box on the car. The gasket is larger but it seems to mate well to the filter housing. I'll be checking for leaks the next few days.

And just for a laugher at myself. I changed out the trans fluid as well as as the power steering fluid. Putting the plug back in the oil pan I realized i got a split CV boot so I need to change out the shaft this week so much for new trans fluid it will have to get drained again :rant:


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Looks like Puralator L30165 is now not available as well. I'll start looking for suitable replacements here when I get a chance. I think the KN part number is still good for our car.


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89accordlxigentyers
02-23-2011, 01:42 PM
It is deff worth spending the extra few bucks cause i was curious one day and had a old fram filter and a fresh used K&N filter off my 89 lxi. I used a saw zaw and cut them both in half to see which was better. Trust me the K&N has alot more filter space and catches all the sludge and nasty things we dont need in out motors. the fram barly had any filtration at all but the k&n has alot more flow... so i spend the 14 bucks for the K&N and use only Castrol GTX every 3000 miles. ***To be exact on the filter its a K&N 1004 filter***

Oldblueaccord
05-12-2013, 09:01 AM
Purolator L30165 Classic Oil Filter : Amazon.com : Automotive (http://www.amazon.com/Purolator-L30165-Classic-Oil-Filter/dp/B000C6KM9G)

Haven't seen any for sale in a while unless its on line like this one. Never did any research on any others. I never remember to until its oil change time.

Just to add I use this filter because its bigger and holds more oil.

Dr_Snooz
05-12-2013, 07:26 PM
Blue, I sure wouldn't be going out of my way to buy a Purolator filter. Worst oil pressure I ever had was a Purolator. The Wix from Napa or O'Reilly work great. No reason to re-invent the wheel here.

Oldblueaccord
12-28-2015, 11:06 PM
PL24458 and the L24458 are $1.41 on rockauto.

MessyHonda
12-29-2015, 08:48 PM
thats cheap. I got to Napa auto parts and use the Napa gold filter that is made by Wix i use the 1334 for my GSR engine. I also switched over to Valvoline Race oil 10-30. It has high zinc for lifters and keeps my motor running smooth at high rpms 7700rpm shifts because thats where my power drops off.