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BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 10:36 AM
First off, this is a serious thread! NO WHORING OR JOKING HERE. FUCK OFF IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE SERIOUS! I AM SPENDING ALOT OF TIME AND MONEY TO HELP EVERYONE OUT!
Make sure to scroll through each post to see more additional pictures.
(I will be purchasing lumiled's later this week or next STAY TUNED)

I will have resistors for a 9 volt duracell battery and car 12 volt battery operations.

I have while supplies last:
100 white led's (5mm) -- 25 cents each
100 blue led's (3mm) -- 25 cents each
200 red housing led's (5mm) -- 15 cents each
50 red clear housing led's (5mm) -- 20 cents each
200 red led's (3mm) -- 15 cents each
200 green led's (3mm) -- 15 cents each
200 green led's (5mm) -- 15 cents each
50 dark orange led's (5mm) -- 20 cents each

400 resistors 12 volt(red/green) -- 20 cents each (1 resistor per 4 led's)
(white/blue)-- 20 cents each (1 resistor per 2 led's)

200 resistors 9 volt (red/green) -- 20 cents each (1 resistor per 4 led's)
(white/blue) -- 20 cents each (1 resistor per 4 led's)

(need to buy)-- 12 volt -- 20 cents each (1 resistor per 1 led)
9 volt -- 20 cents each (1 resistor per 1 led)


16 qty 2" X 2" circuit boards -- $2.50 each
12 qty 2" X 4" circuit boards -- $5.00 each

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_229_full.jpg

For the smaller circuit board with 16 led's, 4 resistors cost would be approx $5.70 +$2 SHIPPING.

The bigger board with approx. 32 led's and 8 resistors the cost would be $11.40 + $2 SHIPPING.

Labor will be $10.00 per board with led's soldered, give or take what I'm making. Pm me for
estimates.

I will only charge for all the cost/labor of materials and like $1-$2 to ship them.
I can make anything you want. I am not looking for a profit. I am doing this for fun. My major in college is Electrical Engineering. I love doing stuff like this and am excited to start doing this. Basically give some ideas and I will start making some cool shit for our cars. I can basically cut the boards to whatever size we need. I will have some samples made up in the next week. :welcome:
When you recieve the kit, it will have instructions on how to wire it up. It will be a plug and play application. These run off of 12 volt power source. I will also be ordering some resistors to run off of 9 volt batteries! You will want to hook up an inline fuse or if you are using a stock location...you may use the factory wiring with factory fuse.
PRICES ARE SO LOW BECAUSE I BOUGHT IN BULK. THESE PRICES ARE LIKE 500% LOWER THAN WHAT YOU CAN GET AT RADIOSHAK!!!!!lmao
The more led's you want the more in price. I am hooking 4 led's to one resistor. I plan on buying some resistors to go with a single led, so you may buy them seperately (led with resistor). Basically it would be a plug and play with however you desire to use it.
Circuit boards!!!!
3mm on the left 5mm on the right!
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_222_full.jpg
Forward voltage: 1.7V @ 20mA
Brightness: 1172mcd @ 10mA
Maximum DC current: 30mA
View Angle: 20 Degree
Package: Water Clear
Size: 5mm Round
Leg Length: 24mm
As you can see, there are mounting holes to use screws. I was thinking about using double sided 3m tape.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_218_full.jpg
What lovely craftsmanship I do...J/K. This was the first day I got them!
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_220_full.jpg
Doing somemore measuring!!!
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_221_full.jpg
DIAGRAMS TO WIRE THEM UP... when specifying what you want download these and use these to do your ordering. Remember the 3 holes touching are all "Hot". You will want to take this into consideration when doing your brainstorming.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_227_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_228_full.jpg
Suggestions....
Tail light led's
Instrument Panel Led's
Front Turn signal Led's
Instrument Cluster Led's
Led circuit board reading "HONDA" OR "ACCORD" OR "3GEEZ" OR YOUR NAME!!
I will be converting all my turnsignal lights to led's!!
I'm going to make a kit to put in our mirrors so they have turn signals like M3 mirrors.

HostileJava
10-06-2006, 10:50 AM
What's the viewing angle and brightness rating for the LED's you're using? Any chance they are Lumileds?

MessyHonda
10-06-2006, 10:52 AM
hey bitesize can you make a kit for the Instrument Panel kinda like guynabo?

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 10:55 AM
If someone sends me an Instrument Panel. I will do this for free to get the jist of it down. I was thinking the same thing, but I don't want to tear mine out, since I've got enough going on with my car anyways. But I could get a kit started!
When I figured the prices that was how much I payed plus Shipping to my house. I've spent over $150 on stuff...:)!!!
Cheap prices from me to you!


Colour: Red (660nm)

Forward voltage: 1.7V @ 20mA

Brightness: 1172mcd @ 10mA

Maximum DC current: 30mA

View Angle: 20 Degree

Package: Water Clear

Size: 5mm Round

Leg Length: 24mm

Condition: New


They are not lumileds.

ghettogeddy
10-06-2006, 11:33 AM
i can get an extra panel im def interested in this but id want blue and red

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 11:36 AM
I bought 100 blue of them....OUCH....freaking $25 shipped.

ghettogeddy
10-06-2006, 11:37 AM
also some tail lights would be killer , dome lights and a custom 3rd brake lkight that spell's 3geez

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 11:45 AM
also some tail lights would be killer , dome lights and a custom 3rd brake lkight that spell's 3geez


I was thinking the same thing with the 3geez 3rd brake light. Those would be $35 (depending on color) including shipping with $5 donated to 3geez.com!!!! They would be $30 because I'd have to take some time making them.

ghettogeddy
10-06-2006, 11:54 AM
u might just have a buyer if u can make one then show me what lit looks like lit up im sure ill buy one

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 11:55 AM
OHHHH SHITTTT!!!! I JUST GOT THE LED'S IN THE MAIL RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_223_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_224_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_225_full.jpg

ghettogeddy
10-06-2006, 12:01 PM
it looks like christmas

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 12:01 PM
Hell yah it does. It felt like christmas ripping that package open!!!! HOW EXCITING!

MessyHonda
10-06-2006, 12:02 PM
^^^IS IT chirstmas yet?^^...anyways im down for the guage cluster and the ac controls

ZackieDarko
10-06-2006, 12:02 PM
some 2007 style M3 tails could be cool on my hatch :D

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 12:03 PM
I planned on the green ones going to A/C buttons and such. The 3mm small ones would be used for this. The 5mm will be used for bigger components like dash lights or turn signal lights. If you want some led's and resistors pm with how many you want, and I will get them wired up for you.

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 12:33 PM
I'll name this "Protype Red Led 101" :)

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_229_full.jpg This protype will be clean cut front and back with no blemishes, so it will look professional. Led's will be in the front, resistors and jump wires in the back. I've done measuring and calculations this whole passed month. Remember, these boards can be cut to fit. I can basically cut them to fit just 2 rows of led's. I could even mount the resistors on a seperate board, so you could mount the led's in hard to reach spots. These little boards won't take long to solder, so I'll only charge $5.00 labor on these 2"X4" boards.

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 01:02 PM
Fed Ex just dropped these off.... 50 orange 5mm and 50 clear red 5mm

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_230_full.jpg

ghettogeddy
10-06-2006, 01:30 PM
man back to back deliverys lol most be nice i love it when i get things in the mail when i got my pc stuff day before yesterday i was ear to ear with joy

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 01:34 PM
man back to back deliverys lol most be nice i love it when i get things in the mail when i got my pc stuff day before yesterday i was ear to ear with joy


I bought 21 things on ebay in one week.....Still have like 11 to come!!! LMAO!!!

ghettogeddy
10-06-2006, 01:37 PM
lol thats alot

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 01:58 PM
I will be out of town until monday, so don't be surprised if I don't respond until then.

HostileJava
10-06-2006, 02:18 PM
If you are planing on using these for any exterior lighting you should really look into using these:
http://www.lumileds.com/products/line.cfm?lineId=4
http://www.lumileds.com/images/productphotos/superflux.jpg
They are brighter, have a better viewing angle, and have much stricter quality control as far as matching forward voltage drops. Also keep in mind the ones you are using are designed to focus the light in a particular spot not spread it out like a lamp would. That's fine for the console and cluster in the dash, but when it comes to the dome/door/trunk lights it will light up one small area directly in front of where the LED's are facing and even a diffuser will have a tough time making it do any more then that. Same deal with the tail lights. If you are standing directly behind them at eye level they will look really bright but as soon as the tails move abover or below your eye height the brightness will QUICKLY fade.

BITESIZE
10-06-2006, 02:22 PM
I was thinking about buying some of those. Probably one in each assembly would light up a bunch.

labeledsk8r
10-06-2006, 02:42 PM
how much would just a L.E.D 3rd break light be? no spelling just led, i was planning on takeing out the old bulb nd the red cover and putting clear (red)led's, but i havent been able to get to it, any guess on price?

frantik
10-06-2006, 04:59 PM
cool project.. interested to see some of the end results :) especially how a full tail set would look

Vanilla Sky
10-06-2006, 05:11 PM
from being a wannabe flashlight whore, you'll want to give the lumileds a try.

who here thinks he should try a multiple luxeon dome light? i'd like to give that a shot.

Vanilla Sky
10-06-2006, 05:47 PM
http://www.taskled.com/dome.html

looks like someone already has began building lumiled dome lights.

imight pick some up one day and make them for my vehicles if they're considerably cheaper to build.

RamThis
10-06-2006, 09:59 PM
I'm glad you guys know all this electronic circuit board bullshit LOL. I'd love to have some nice bright LED tail lights and Signal lights, but I have no idea how to make them. Dont even know what the resistor is for? Don't they make LED's that run on 12VDC? Or do you use lower voltage ones and reduce the voltage with a resistor so you have some "reserve" power if the voltage drops due to load or something???

Shit I'm just making all this up I have no clue what I'm talking about now LOL. :wtf:

mykwikcoupe
10-06-2006, 10:52 PM
i have a few extra gauge clusters. Im also interestd in leds in the dash lights, a/c controls, headlight dimmer controls basically the entire dash. I can send it out monday if you pm me address and costs. Ill search for pics of what id like to see. If you could also make a kit so i can wire the up under my seats,dash, and other areas so when i turn on my interior dome light the car lights up like its on fire. Id just need sockets and leds, I can do the actual wiring for lengths and such. Mike

smufguy
10-07-2006, 03:34 AM
I am curious what this project is for. Are you trying to make anything that anyone wants, or are you trying to make something for teh 3geez? if you are making something for the car, i have something in mind that you could help me out with ;)

HostileJava
10-07-2006, 05:42 AM
I'm glad you guys know all this electronic circuit board bullshit LOL. I'd love to have some nice bright LED tail lights and Signal lights, but I have no idea how to make them. Dont even know what the resistor is for? Don't they make LED's that run on 12VDC? Or do you use lower voltage ones and reduce the voltage with a resistor so you have some "reserve" power if the voltage drops due to load or something???
Shit I'm just making all this up I have no clue what I'm talking about now LOL. :wtf:

The resistor is there to handle the extra current, without it the LED would not last very long. The 12v LED's you see sold in stores already have a resistor inline with them.

I've been working on making my own surface mount and through hole PCB's to make a nice back for inside a clear lense. Once the pcb is etched you can spray paint it with a non conductive reflective paint to make it look much nicer. Here's the howto I've been using:

http://www.fullnet.com/u/tomg/gooteepc.htm

DDRaptor
10-07-2006, 08:44 AM
DUDE good shit bitesize i was like thinking about it, i'm not the only nerd who was thinking about it. I was thinking about 10mm LEDS, cause some of the bimmer i have seen have 10mm leds. but dude sweet don't forgot to use high Wattage resistors, i have seen resistors burn up.

BITESIZE
10-07-2006, 02:55 PM
I am curious what this project is for. Are you trying to make anything that anyone wants, or are you trying to make something for teh 3geez? if you are making something for the car, i have something in mind that you could help me out with ;)


I am here to make what ever you want. :welcome:

RamThis
10-07-2006, 08:24 PM
If I sent you my tails and front flashers, could you make them full out LED's? And have them look like the factory ones look, low light for running and real bright for brakes?

If so, tell me how much so I can guage whether I can do it or not, or if you need any other parts for trade or whatever deal we can work out. I will let you do my lights as an experiment if you want, as long as they work in the end lol. Just figure it up and PM me and we'll go from there....

BITESIZE
10-08-2006, 11:51 AM
If I sent you my tails and front flashers, could you make them full out LED's? And have them look like the factory ones look, low light for running and real bright for brakes?
If so, tell me how much so I can guage whether I can do it or not, or if you need any other parts for trade or whatever deal we can work out. I will let you do my lights as an experiment if you want, as long as they work in the end lol. Just figure it up and PM me and we'll go from there....


It would be a little bit down the road, but I imagine I could do it after some homework and practice. If I could get just one tailight sent to me to practice with that would be the best way to start. I have some guage clusters on the way, and I'm working on some other led project non 3g related. I'm gaining a broader knowledge with led's, resistors, currents...etc. Best thing is you will only need 1 resistor per 4 led's.

SovietSuperSoldier
10-08-2006, 05:11 PM
Hey bitesize, I have some led work I need done. I want to see some of your work and I'll see if you can do this. I want my 3rd gen Prelude tails in LED.

BITESIZE
10-09-2006, 06:34 PM
I will be most likely buying some super bright white lumileds this week, if anyone is interested in turnsignals let me know.

Vanilla Sky
10-09-2006, 07:52 PM
you're still going to need more than one lumiled. 7 is probably the minimum i'd go with. that makes a turnsignal project very expensive.

BITESIZE
10-09-2006, 08:03 PM
The front turn signals will only need 1 or 2 lumileds. The tails will need quite a few.

Vanilla Sky
10-09-2006, 08:40 PM
it's not so much the number, but the reflector. you'll have to have a decent reflector if you're only using a single LED.

7 would give you a hexagon shape.

you may also want to consider something like these. they're made with what you're pursuing in mind. http://www.lumileds.com/products/line.cfm?lineId=5

BITESIZE
10-10-2006, 09:30 AM
I just bought 100 white led's.

MessyHonda
10-10-2006, 09:48 AM
I just bought 100 white led's.

when are you geting the cluster? i want some LEDs in my car already....

BITESIZE
10-10-2006, 09:58 AM
I don't know when the cluster is coming. I hope soon though.

EricW
10-10-2006, 10:09 AM
To help diffuse the light more on the regular leds, you can take some sand paper and scuff up the tip so the light is refracted at different angles, which will make the light not so focused in one spot.

Here are some awesome LED tail lights someone posted on a local forum.

http://www.rcaz.com/rcaz/sub%20indexes/led_tail_gallery/index.html

http://www.rcaz.com/movieclips/led_demo.wmv

http://www.rcaz.com/movieclips/tailuc.wmv

ghettogeddy
10-10-2006, 10:21 AM
whos sending the cluster

BITESIZE
10-10-2006, 11:29 AM
whos sending the cluster


MYKWIKCOUPE?

Listen2myBASS
10-10-2006, 11:43 AM
that dude erik posted has some skills...any chance ur gonna be making some led tails for us? id buy a set, only if they were red/white though...not a fan of amber lights...

BITESIZE
10-10-2006, 11:47 AM
By looking at those pictures, I don't think I'll attempt to make them for any one else but my personal own car. That would take forever to make. I'll plan on working on the cluster for now.

Listen2myBASS
10-10-2006, 11:49 AM
lol, i hear ya...u mean the backlighting for the cluster? id buy some but i have EL...u gonna make ac control ones? ill proly buy those...

BITESIZE
10-10-2006, 11:51 AM
A/C and guage clusters will be fairly decent to convert.

Listen2myBASS
10-10-2006, 11:53 AM
any rough estimates for a price on the ac controls? if i sent you my controls?(i dont see any other way really...)

BITESIZE
10-10-2006, 11:56 AM
edit. Send it to me and I will do it for free. I will even pay shipping back to you. This way you can install it in your car and take pictures and then post them back in this thread. PM me if interested.

mykwikcoupe
10-10-2006, 06:52 PM
Ill besending the parts out tomorrow. Im starting to hate these 12 hour days

RamThis
10-10-2006, 07:19 PM
Mine go out tomorrow too hopefully. I wuz too busy to get them off today.....

RamThis
10-10-2006, 08:36 PM
Got em boxed up, but one question remains....

Do you need the pigtail and socket to the light to convert it? And how will I wire it all back up? Just straight back to the wires it was cut from? If you need the socket, tell me how far back from the socket to cut the wires.

RamThis
10-10-2006, 08:56 PM
To help diffuse the light more on the regular leds, you can take some sand paper and scuff up the tip so the light is refracted at different angles, which will make the light not so focused in one spot.
Here are some awesome LED tail lights someone posted on a local forum.
http://www.rcaz.com/rcaz/sub%20indexes/led_tail_gallery/index.html
http://www.rcaz.com/movieclips/led_demo.wmv
http://www.rcaz.com/movieclips/tailuc.wmv

That is quite possibly, the coolest fucking thing Ive ever seen. :rockon:

BITESIZE
10-10-2006, 10:20 PM
Got em boxed up, but one question remains....
Do you need the pigtail and socket to the light to convert it? And how will I wire it all back up? Just straight back to the wires it was cut from? If you need the socket, tell me how far back from the socket to cut the wires.
It depends on how you want to wire it back up. I'm not going to really need to mess with the wiring. I'll be adding on to the part the bulb plugs into.

PS, I GOT THE BLUE LED'S TODAY!:rockon: They are fucking bright as hell for little 3mm!! I'm impressed.

All the goods so far, and more are still in the mail. Still to come: white led's, resistors, resistors!
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_235_full.jpg

BITESIZE
10-11-2006, 11:59 AM
Blue led measured with the pepsi can! :) This is a tiny 3mm blue led, but gosh dang!!!!

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_236_full.jpg

And the red 5mm... http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_238_full.jpg

Listen2myBASS
10-11-2006, 12:51 PM
omg dude, where'd u get those? those are super bright...and do u still want me to send my controls , i see u have people sending em today?

BITESIZE
10-11-2006, 12:55 PM
Go ahead and send them. pm sent

BITESIZE
10-11-2006, 01:02 PM
So far, I will be working on a 3rd brake light, guage cluster, and A/C controls. If anyone else has ideas let me know.

Civic Accord Honda
10-11-2006, 01:36 PM
how about a blue trim around the head light or in the eyelids that woud be cool

BITESIZE
10-11-2006, 10:50 PM
how about a blue trim around the head light or in the eyelids that woud be cool



Ummmm how about not!

MessyHonda
10-12-2006, 06:37 AM
Ummmm how about not!

jim did it with his hatch
http://hostilejava.com/images/IMG_2213.JPG

HostileJava
10-12-2006, 07:17 AM
That would have looked so much better if it had been closer to the color of the body.

Legend_master
10-12-2006, 07:41 AM
How about a scrolling taillight similar to the eclipse, that says "you lose, Bitch" that would be hilarious.

MessyHonda
10-12-2006, 07:48 AM
How about a scrolling taillight similar to the eclipse, that says "you lose, Bitch" that would be hilarious.

with LEds you can make it says wut ever you want...you can have it programed..like "dont tailgate me or i will flick a bogger at your windshieldr"....."if you can read this you are god damn close"...."for a small town it has alot of assholes drivers"..."Im not drunk just geting some road head"...ect

RamThis
10-12-2006, 08:04 AM
with LEds you can make it says wut ever you want...you can have it programed..like "dont tailgate me or i will flick a bogger at your windshieldr

Funny, I had that bumper sticker on the back window of my old 68 Chevy Stepside truck back in highschool. It got so many laughs. It's still there, just that it's about to completely rot off lol. Gotta get that truck restored someday......

BITESIZE
10-12-2006, 09:46 AM
I can hook the led's up to switches to if anyone wants that.

smufguy
10-13-2006, 04:03 AM
That would have looked so much better if it had been closer to the color of the body.

jimmy i think he was talking about the angel eyes

HostileJava
10-13-2006, 04:11 AM
jimmy i think he was talking about the angel eyes

Either way, my statement still stands :)

BITESIZE
10-14-2006, 12:20 PM
I got the whitle led's and single resistors. http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_240_full.jpg:bong: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_241_full.jpg
Let the making shit begin!!!

RamThis
10-14-2006, 01:09 PM
I gotta box of crap for you to work on LOL. Just havent had a chance to send it yet, have had some other troubles, Thursday it was the Acura giving me hell, now I just sorted out my Truck's problems. Sheesh. I'll try to get it mailed out Monday..... :bong:

Gemini2003
10-14-2006, 02:09 PM
Once you make a few things with what people are sending to you right now... how do you think it will work then? I mean If I would like something done will I need to send you the part or will you know the size of things and be able to just send me the finished led's?

I am very interested in this it's really cool :-)

BITESIZE
10-14-2006, 10:57 PM
Once you make a few things with what people are sending to you right now... how do you think it will work then? I mean If I would like something done will I need to send you the part or will you know the size of things and be able to just send me the finished led's?

I am very interested in this it's really cool :-)

I could make a kit and just send the kit.

BITESIZE
10-15-2006, 10:10 AM
Some of these pictures are upside down, sorry. But you get the idea!

I put the single white led with resister in the turnsignal...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_247_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_248_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_242_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_243_full.jpg


I put the blue single led with resister in the turnsignal...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_244_full.jpg

For fun I put the red led in the turnsignal...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_245_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_246_full.jpg

BITESIZE
10-15-2006, 12:00 PM
Please see this thread for turn signal led purchasing... http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55576

Sabz5150
10-15-2006, 01:22 PM
Here's the make or break:

Pics in noon sunlight.

Vanilla Sky
10-15-2006, 06:39 PM
i agree, because i'm betting that all of those will be washed out beyond usefulness on a bright day.

BITESIZE
10-15-2006, 10:37 PM
I'll probably be putting two led's in each. I will have pictures tomorrow in sunlight.

Vanilla Sky
10-16-2006, 05:51 AM
i'm not sure even 2 will suffice. if you were playing with 3 watt luxeons, you'd have little to no problem with a single emitter. even with those, i'd go with at least 5, though. there's a reason the auto industry hasn't takend off with LED tech. heat is one factor (you have to heatsink luxeons), price is another.

one thing to remember is that aftermarked turnsignal lights use at least 7 "normal" LEDs, and they still aren't bright enough to pass DOT standards.

BITESIZE
10-16-2006, 10:31 AM
These are 5mm white led's though. I think the aftermarket ones aren't but 3mm. 2 of these 5 mm are a tons brighter than the stock bulb. If people want more I can just charge them 25 cents more for each led, problem solved I guess. They are bright enough that I would use two in the daytime while driving. Whats good for me should be good for anyone else. Just my 2 cents.

BITESIZE
10-16-2006, 10:47 AM
i have a few extra gauge clusters. Mike


The only problem i see is I dont know which sides are + - on the circuit board, because doesnt really matter which way you install a stock bulb. Power flows feally, but in an led the + has to be + sorta like a speaker. The gas that lights up is on + side and has to flow + first.


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_254_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_255_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_256_full.jpg
It will probably be a week until I actually start on this project. I'm going to do some thinking and get it figured out the best way! This isn't the first time I've torn apart these gauges, so that will make the process quicker.

I got the huge package O' shit to put led's in!!!! Thanks for sending extra bulb sockets, I'm going to need them to practice on. I think it's going to be easier than I thought. But we will see. Let the making shit officially begin!!! Any colors you want in certain places? I counted 21 bulb holes in just the cluster here. I'd imagine there's probably 8ish more inside the cluster. So when you do the math... for all white led's at 25 cents plus resisters the cost is around $8.40 which is still cheap (based on 21 led's)

BITESIZE
10-16-2006, 12:07 PM
More pictures....

As soon as I map out this circuit board it will be easy sailing. I've got to figure out what each line goes to and why. I want to use the existing bulb plastic things, this way it's a plug and play application. Everything I make is going to be a plug and play hopefully.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_257_full.jpg

BITESIZE
10-16-2006, 05:08 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_260_full.jpg

smufguy
10-17-2006, 06:15 AM
hey bitesize. THe lil bulbs on the back of the gauge can be inserted 180 deg around. If any, you gotta tell US which one is the (+)ve and (-)ve or send us a copy of the schematics and with the bulb holders marked (+)ve and (-)ve so that we dont insert the bulbs in the wrong way, since they can be inserted either way around.

BITESIZE
10-17-2006, 09:03 AM
hey bitesize. THe lil bulbs on the back of the gauge can be inserted 180 deg around. If any, you gotta tell US which one is the (+)ve and (-)ve or send us a copy of the schematics and with the bulb holders marked (+)ve and (-)ve so that we dont insert the bulbs in the wrong way, since they can be inserted either way around.


I realize this, this is why I'm trying to figure a better way out, because not everyone is smart like me and you. I want to make it as easy as possible for everyone.

btw the side with the resister is alway positive.

Any ideas are welcome! :welcome:

Listen2myBASS
10-17-2006, 09:23 AM
you received my stuff in the mail yet? probably not...

BITESIZE
10-17-2006, 09:28 AM
you received my stuff in the mail yet? probably not...


NOPE, what are you sending?

Listen2myBASS
10-17-2006, 09:30 AM
:huh: ac controls

BITESIZE
10-17-2006, 09:33 AM
ok, i've already got a set, but i'll get on it.

Blkblurr
10-17-2006, 12:27 PM
Remember, If you want to make the LED's shine better for dash guages you need to sand them so that thay look cloudy. This helps to difuse the light better. This way you won't get bright spots on the guages.

BITESIZE
10-17-2006, 12:29 PM
Remember, If you want to make the LED's shine better for dash guages you need to sand them so that thay look cloudy. This helps to difuse the light better. This way you won't get bright spots on the guages.


yah, I sanded one flat and roughed the sides up and it look's great in there.

newaccorddriver
10-17-2006, 08:22 PM
The only problem i see is I dont know which sides are + - on the circuit board, because doesnt really matter which way you install a stock bulb. Power flows feally, but in an led the + has to be + sorta like a speaker. The gas that lights up is on + side and has to flow + first.
It will probably be a week until I actually start on this project. I'm going to do some thinking and get it figured out the best way! This isn't the first time I've torn apart these gauges, so that will make the process quicker.
I got the huge package O' shit to put led's in!!!! Thanks for sending extra bulb sockets, I'm going to need them to practice on. I think it's going to be easier than I thought. But we will see. Let the making shit officially begin!!! Any colors you want in certain places? I counted 21 bulb holes in just the cluster here. I'd imagine there's probably 8ish more inside the cluster. So when you do the math... for all white led's at 25 cents plus resisters the cost is around $8.40 which is still cheap (based on 21 led's)


why dont you just connect the dash on the car and power it up and use a multimeter to check its polarity out?

BITESIZE
10-17-2006, 11:36 PM
Because that would mean I'd have to disassemble my gauge cluster etc., and I have too much going on my car already.

RamThis
10-18-2006, 11:28 PM
Hey check these links out....

Second page about half way down, cluster lights....
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR

http://autolumination.com/3157_3156.htm

Anything you can use?? Looks like they have the cluster lights pre-made??

BITESIZE
10-18-2006, 11:36 PM
Fucking awesome find brother!!!! That's what I've been looking for. This will reduce the cost greatly for the gauge cluster!

RamThis
10-18-2006, 11:38 PM
You can thank my bros at WWW.DodgeTrucks.org for that find!!! :bow:

BITESIZE
10-18-2006, 11:39 PM
Those are like 79 cents each...lol...just a little more than what i paid for the leds and resisters.

RamThis
10-18-2006, 11:41 PM
Kick ass, glad to lend a hand in your quest for an all LED car!!

Also, I just thought of a REALLY dim spot on my car, that damn trunk light!!!! Is that a festoon type bulb? If so, I'm thinking of ordering the 9 LED festoons for the interior and the trunk. I'd love to put some up under the dash in the footwells up front too, I hate a dark floorboard at night. I'd like to find a way to put some in the back somewhere to light up the rear floorboard.....

RamThis
10-18-2006, 11:43 PM
Don't stay up all night looking at all those LED's!!! :bong:

MessyHonda
10-18-2006, 11:51 PM
Don't stay up all night looking at all those LED's!!! :bong:


hehe or he will go blind...:bandance:

BITESIZE
10-18-2006, 11:52 PM
I'm Your Personal Led Whore!

MessyHonda
10-18-2006, 11:56 PM
I'm Your Personal Led Whore!

dude you need to hook me up....next next pay check alright....i need some LED love on my car...if you were closer i would help you...

BITESIZE
10-18-2006, 11:59 PM
Not like I make alot of money off of these...

BITESIZE
10-20-2006, 10:53 AM
I started on the A/C controls. Blue is the brightest and looks the sweetest too. Once again there is a pepsi can visible. I'm always drinking pepsi! :)

It looks like I'll be using 8 bright blue led's for this project. I drilled holes behind the plastic housing and will insert the sanded top led's in. I wripped out a stupid piece of metal from the inside. I didn't see any value in leaving it in. The leds look titties in there. I only lit one up to get an idea of how it would look. This will be a fairly decent project. I will then wire the led's and solder them to the little circuit board. This way the dimmer switch still works, and you just plug the harness in. Rocking good times. I accidentally drilled through the front, sorry to the person that sent this prototype to me. Thats why I wanted a spare. :) Next time I'll remove the front.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_288_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_289_full.jpg

BITESIZE
10-21-2006, 09:55 AM
I bought a nice solder iron. Should be here early next week.

HostileJava
10-21-2006, 09:59 AM
You should get a solder station :) A nice sucking pump, some ventilation, multi tip/temp pen, etc. :)

BITESIZE
10-21-2006, 10:12 AM
You should get a solder station :) A nice sucking pump, some ventilation, multi tip/temp pen, etc. :)


$50 shipped, Its a temp control solder station!:welcome:

SAME AS WELLER WLC 100 (5 to 40W) BUT THIS IS 6 to 60W

http://i13.ebayimg.com/04/i/08/b2/38/ed_1_b.JPG


SOLDER STATION & SOLDERING IRON

(60W)

HIGH QUALITY IN A COMPACT DESIGN

220 `F to 950 `F
VARIABLE TEMPRATURE CONTROL

HIGH QUALITY CERAMIC HEATER

HIGH QUALITY LONG LIFE TIP

ON- OFF SWITCH WITH POWER ON INDICATOR LIGHT

CHROME SAFTY GUARD IRON HOLDER

EASY REPLACEABLE TIPS

ANTI-STATIC GROUNDED TIP

110-140V INPUT

EXTRA HIGH QUALITY REPLACEMENT TIP ( 1/32" conical same as picture) CAN BE ORDERED

HostileJava
10-21-2006, 10:32 AM
Cool, that's similar to what we have at work here, we have digital temp controls and quite a bit more wattage on ours though. We also have little pumps to suck the solder up and fans overhead the bench to pull the fumes away. I'd like to setup somthing like that in my basement, but I'll probably never get around to it.

:)

BITESIZE
10-21-2006, 10:34 AM
I'm going to just do it in the kitchen with the window open and a fan. I'm going to be on a soldering frenzy. I have other goodies coming too. Stayed tuned for the more goodies.

ghettogeddy
10-21-2006, 11:01 AM
can wait for some finished product so i can go broke again

BITESIZE
10-21-2006, 12:02 PM
I just bougtht a shit load of wire, and this kick ass gadget!! I'm going to rig up a 9 volt battery with a + and - wire on each of those clips so I can have a built in tester. I'll have to insulate the inside where the clip joins the holder! Yippee!

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_291_full.jpg

One set of wires has 6 wires and the other has 4 wires. The wires don't have to be thick (22 AWG), because led's don't produce any heat and run at low voltage. Perfect for Led making! This wiring will make my projects look clean as hell.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_292_full.jpg

BITESIZE
10-21-2006, 12:36 PM
Oh shit, just got the 10mm led's in blue, and the heat shrink wrap. The blue 10mm are fucking fucking fucking bright and fucking huge! LMAO.

10mm on the left---5 mm in the middle---3mm on the right

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_293_full.jpg

Listen2myBASS
10-23-2006, 09:39 AM
lmao, that 10mm looks like its on steroids:flash:

BITESIZE
10-23-2006, 09:40 AM
They are massive!

Listen2myBASS
10-23-2006, 09:45 AM
i take it those are my ac controls u workin on...and no problem about the hole...i can fix that

BITESIZE
10-23-2006, 09:47 AM
It's just the front sticker that i put a hole in. I might just go get one from the salvage yard and stick it in me good ol' poquet!

Listen2myBASS
10-23-2006, 09:50 AM
lol, fun stuff...

BITESIZE
10-23-2006, 09:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/ludapower/8860d465.jpg

I will be buying some white 10mm leds to make my tail lights like this!

frantik
10-23-2006, 11:04 PM
thats what i'm talking bout! :rockon: nice tails.. would be tight if they were more densely packed but im sure it would be a hugh pita

EricW
10-24-2006, 02:30 PM
I don't think those tails look all that good, the light needs to be more diffused. I have used some rough grit sand paper on the lens part of the led before and it helps to diffuse the light more than it just being focused in one spot. It would make the tail lights look much better since the bright areas wouldn't be a bunch of small spots.

HostileJava
10-24-2006, 02:31 PM
I like the dotted look, as long as the led's have a wide viewing angle.

BITESIZE
10-24-2006, 02:37 PM
I will be looking around for some damn good white 180 degree led's. I'll be using 10mm led's too.

BITESIZE
10-26-2006, 10:28 AM
Well, I finally recieved my solder station!!

smufguy
10-27-2006, 01:11 PM
they bitie, the tails look awsome, I would suggest just 10mm red lights if any so that its not ricey or gay from the back.

Listen2myBASS
10-27-2006, 01:27 PM
u gonna make some tails for sale later on in the year?

HostileJava
10-27-2006, 01:49 PM
Since it seems like I never have the time to finish my projects, if I send you my extra set of OEM tails for the van, do you think you can convert them to all LED for me? I'll even seperate the lens from the housing for you.

gfrg88
10-27-2006, 02:51 PM
got my kit today!!!! quick shipping and got A LOT of parts!!! BEST guy i have ever bought anything from 2x:thumbup:

:rockon:

BITESIZE
10-27-2006, 10:35 PM
Since it seems like I never have the time to finish my projects, if I send you my extra set of OEM tails for the van, do you think you can convert them to all LED for me? I'll even seperate the lens from the housing for you.


That would be peaches and cream my good boy James. I'd start on then ASAP too. What color of led's? Do you want 10 mm bright ass white? :welcome:

BITESIZE
10-27-2006, 10:36 PM
got my kit today!!!! quick shipping and got A LOT of parts!!! BEST guy i have ever bought anything from 2x:thumbup:
:rockon:


I did hook you up good, didn't I. LMAO. I thought...."I'll give him this and this and this. He would like an extra of this and this and this." Might as well make my customers happy! :welcome:

HostileJava
10-28-2006, 06:44 AM
That would be peaches and cream my good boy James. I'd start on then ASAP too. What color of led's? Do you want 10 mm bright ass white? :welcome:

Whatever the brightest white you have is. PM me your address and if you want any payment sent with the tailights and we'll get started :)

BITESIZE
10-28-2006, 09:19 AM
Work has started on the led turnsignals!!!! WHAHOO

BITESIZE
10-28-2006, 10:14 AM
Smaller white housing socket.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_300_full.jpg

BITESIZE
10-28-2006, 12:01 PM
ONE SIDE FINISHED!! ANYONE WANT TO BUY THIS FIRST SET?

THE SMALL HOUSING HAS 2 LED'S AND THE BIG ORANGE ONE HAS 4 LED'S.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_301_full.jpg

AlfredoPDX
10-31-2006, 10:32 PM
i bid on these !:rockon:

BITESIZE
11-01-2006, 11:47 PM
i bid on these !:rockon:


Someone outbid you bro!. :)

MessyHonda
11-02-2006, 07:33 AM
Someone outbid you bro!. :)

its that accordlinly guy.....ey bitesized i tired to call you but it says that your on the phone all the time...wtf....you on dial up?

gfrg88
11-02-2006, 08:23 AM
hey did you get my PM about me needing help with the kit i got from you??

BITESIZE
11-02-2006, 10:44 AM
hey did you get my PM about me needing help with the kit i got from you??

Sorry I've been busy, pm me again with what you don't understand.

BITESIZE
11-02-2006, 01:16 PM
I recieved the 10mm white led's to make hostilejavas tailights!

HostileJava
11-02-2006, 01:32 PM
Cool, I gotta get them apart and mail them out. I've just been really busy the past week.

BITESIZE
11-02-2006, 01:35 PM
Cool, I gotta get them apart and mail them out. I've just been really busy the past week.





I've been practicing soldering and I have to admit, it's easier than I thought. I can make it bead right on and it looks shiny and brilliant. I found the perfect circuit boards at radioshack. 3 bucks each. So 12 bucks should be just right.

newaccorddriver
11-02-2006, 02:49 PM
your stuff came in and ive got extra harness'. im such a lazy bastard... ill post up what i do in a couple months or years

BITESIZE
11-02-2006, 11:19 PM
your stuff came in and ive got extra harness'. im such a lazy bastard... ill post up what i do in a couple months or years


Good to hear. Post pictures when you're done.

BITESIZE
11-03-2006, 04:01 PM
I'm very bored so I made up a business name and backdrop.


I made some white led's with wires for fun.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_312_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_311_full.jpg

newaccorddriver
11-03-2006, 06:59 PM
i forgot how many LEDs per resistor... what was it again? 4:1 or 5:1, possibly 1:1, or does it not matter?

and theres 2 different sizes of resistors. im assuming the bigger ones are for the bigger LEDs

as for the stock harness', are the black wires the ground wires?(im gonna assume this is a yes cause blacks a common ground)

BITESIZE
11-03-2006, 07:05 PM
The resisters are based upon 14 volts for your car and are rated higher than than normal to protect the led and make it last longer.


The resisters are to be on the positive side
The led positive side is the longer lead
The led negative side is the shorter lead


THE BIG RESISTERS ARE 270 OHMS
Good for 2 red/green led's in parrallel
Good for 2 white/blue led's in parrallel

The smaller resisters are 100 ohms
Good for 4 white/blue led's in parrallel
Good for 4 red/green led's in parrallel

newaccorddriver
11-03-2006, 07:28 PM
THE BIG RESISTERS ARE 270 OHMS
Good for 2 red/green led's in parrallel
Good for 2 white/blue led's in parrallel
The smaller resisters are 100 ohms
Good for 4 white/blue led's in parrallel
Good for 4 red/green led's in parrallel


so it doesnt matter what size LEDs i use then between the resistors??.

what about the harness part on the car? ive got extra harness', but i have no idea which wires positive and negative, blacks probably negative?

BITESIZE
11-03-2006, 07:44 PM
Size in led's doesn't matter.
The brighter colors are the positive colors.

BITESIZE
11-03-2006, 08:38 PM
I am making an led strand hooked up to a switch that plugs into a 9volt battery. I will be using white led's. This will be for your under the dash lights. Keep checking back for pictures.

MessyHonda
11-03-2006, 10:24 PM
use a drill bat....14.4v i think....

BITESIZE
11-03-2006, 10:40 PM
9 volts is plenty to power led's.

BITESIZE
11-03-2006, 10:56 PM
UNDER DASH LIGHTS. Here's the UNFINISHED pictures of it. The led's are 4 inches apart, and I plan on adding another 4 led's to it. There is a switch hooked to it too. It can also be put to 12 volts if you just cut the 9volt battery snap off and connect it to a fuse and then your car battery. I was bored so I made it. The whole thing is 5 feet long. I used the 5mm white led's.

Actually these would look sweet mounted in the hood's grille.


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_313_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_314_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_315_full.jpg

BITESIZE
11-04-2006, 11:42 AM
^^^ finished with the lights. I put a total of 10 white led's every 4 inches from each other. Anyone want these for their car? Make an offer. Shipping is $5. I'll even throw in the led holders if you offer me a decent price.

BITESIZE
11-05-2006, 01:21 PM
After numerous attempts, this is the final turn signal kit I will put into production.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_317_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/379000-379999/379742_316_full.jpg

The kit will be $25 shipped obo. You get 4 harnesses for the corner signals. It comes with huge white 10mm led's. These are the brightest led's I have to offer and will radiate far brighter than stock bulbs. The kit comes with 2 led's for the orange housing and one led for the white housing. I will also include 8 small zip ties for your convenience. PM with your questions or interest.

If you would like two extra harness with 2 led's in each for the bumper signals just add $15.

Listen2myBASS
11-05-2006, 01:23 PM
maybe ur inbox is full...but i sent a PM saying how my ac controls are coming along and if ur gonna be making LED tails for sale?