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mkymonkey
10-20-2006, 11:32 AM
HOW TO: GROUND UPGRADE WIRE KIT

ok guys this is quite easy but JUST in case someone might have questions...why not write a how to right?.

Well tools youre going to need

* socket wrench
* 10mm socket
* 12mm socket (this depends on your kit)
* socket extension
* hex keys (again depends on your kit)
* digital camera (this is so you take pics when youre done)


ok before we begin, do not do this with your engine hot. WAIT UNTIL ITS COLD! trust me i burned my self on the tranny lol. Ok like i said this is fairly simple. First off, if you have a cold air intake or even a short ram, i would suggest to take it off before you start with the wires. Why? well it will open up a lot of room when it comes to remove the bolt on the tranny and the bolt holding the stock ground wire.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/start.jpg

ok to start off just remove your negative cable from the batterry. I didnt take a pic of this so you will have to imagine it. lol...and plus if you dont know what im talking about, you shouldnt be doing this at all. after you remove the negative cable from the battery, look down to where the cable is held down by a 10mm bolt next to the battery tray. remove that to be able to remove the cable for good from the bay. this is where that extension comes in handy

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/groundwire1_remove.jpg

after you remove that bolt, follow the cable down to where its held down by another 10mm bolt on the tranny. i have a one of those cool joint socket things but the extension can be used to get to it. its kinda tight though. anyway remove that to prepare for the first ground cable. after you have done so...toss the stock cable out, cuz its 17 years old and in need of a grave

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/groundwire1_tranny.jpg

Once you remove the stock cable, replace it with one of the cables that came with the kit. just attach one end and leave the other hanging for now. I forgot to take a pic of what the wire looks like once its replaced but, you get the idea....i hope

Next were going to add another wire to ground the chasis/body. Remember the bolt you took off to remove the bracket that was holding the stock ground wire? well this is a great place to add another wire to ground the body. Plus my kit came with a short cable, so i made good use of it. again just leave the wire hanging.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/groundwire4.jpg

Third wire I addes was to one of the 10mm bolts that holds the bracket to the ignition coil. I figure this is another great place to add a wire to since its such an important part of your car. Just remove the 10mm bolt slip the wire under it and make sure you put the resistor back on there as well.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/groundwire3.jpg

and the last wire we're going to add is to the valve cover. it already has an existing wire there so we're just replacing it. when i first bought my car my stock wire was beat to hell, so i added a cheap wire that i found in my tool box that i used on a stereo install. this was good since it was also 4ga but the plastic surround was burned for some reason...i guess its not heat rated. anyway if you have the stock wire still, it will still be the same procedure. Remove the 10mm bolt that holds the cable down on the valve cover (image 1). Once that is done, remove the Second 10mm bolt on the other end holding the cable onto the sheet metal (image 2).

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/groundwire2_remove1.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/groundwire2_remove.jpg

mkymonkey
10-20-2006, 11:33 AM
Once the stockie wire is removed, just replace it with the new one (image 1). Because i didnt want the wire hanging, and the kit came with some zip ties, just tie the wire along your clutch cable (if you have a 5speed) and follow it till you get to the battery(image 2)

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/groundwire2_tight.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/groundwire2_zip.jpg

take the terminal that came with the kit and tighten it onto the battery.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/batterystud.jpg

Once that's done, add all the wires to the ring that came with the kit and assemble the rest. If you had any wires that went to your neg cable besides the stock one add them onto the ring as well. I had a wire going coming from my fogs to the neg terminal so i added it to the ring

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/assemble.jpg

Once youre done, just tighten everything up and if you did everything right...it should look something like this.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l10/mkymonkey/GroundKit/Finished.jpg

Pico
10-20-2006, 11:37 AM
Good writeup Adrian:D
I got my ground kit the other day but I was too lazy to do anything with it but now with this writeup it gives me a good idea where to start.
Oh and some of the pictures arent showing up

MessyHonda
10-20-2006, 11:48 AM
did you drive it? how did it feel like

mkymonkey
10-20-2006, 12:00 PM
ok i did drive the car, the biggest difference is the idle, its soooo much better. and the other thing is that it starts faster. well seems like it at least. when i drove it it also felt like it responded a bit better but its more than likely the lack of sleep lol

shepherd79
10-20-2006, 01:00 PM
you should have used better quality wire. I used copper wire rated at 70 amp from lowes.
i am getting ready to write my HOw to.

mkymonkey
10-20-2006, 01:03 PM
well i bought the kit from ebay. just like the kit that hostilejava bought. it was fairly cheap

MessyHonda
10-20-2006, 02:00 PM
i was reading in prelude power and they said that you can put a ground wire on the intake manifold like were the old filter box was.....try it dude....and jason said that a ground to the radiator is good also since it prevents like Ionizing or something.

A18A
10-20-2006, 02:34 PM
would it also make a difference having a fat positive wire on it?

frantik
10-20-2006, 04:12 PM
did you have to scrape off the gold paint on the contacts?

conozo
10-20-2006, 04:23 PM
did you have to scrape off the gold paint on the contacts?

Gold is the best conductor of electricity, leave it on there. But make sure to clean up the dirt and scrape off any paint with a wire brush or sandpaper on the body so the connector touches metal.

shepherd79
10-20-2006, 04:36 PM
did you have to scrape off the gold paint on the contacts?
when hostile bought his kit, it wasn't gold plated. it was gold painted.

MessyHonda
10-20-2006, 04:54 PM
Gold is the best conductor of electricity, leave it on there. But make sure to clean up the dirt and scrape off any paint with a wire brush or sandpaper on the body so the connector touches metal.

...silver is the best...but it cost too much money so they use copper then aluminum....gold is not the best conductor of electricity...thats why they make copper heatsinks for computers...i have one and i run at 32c on my 3000+ overclocked with "SILVER aritic 5" that shit is not cheap...20 bucks for 5 grams.

frantik
10-20-2006, 04:57 PM
gold is good for contacts because it does not corrode or tarnish. but gold paint isn't good :lol:

MessyHonda
10-20-2006, 05:06 PM
sorry then.....anyways you can use some paint stiper and should of polished it like you said monkey.

HondaBoy
10-20-2006, 06:13 PM
just so happens that i decided to replace a couple of ground wires today myself. coincidence? dunno, but anyway, i measured my ground cable from the battery to the engine block, and the one from the valve cover to the radiator support. bought 2, 4 gauge wires that matched my measurements and installed them in like 5 minutes. starts a little faster, idles a bit smoother. i'm going to order the positive cable from honda probably, but its not really worn out like the ground wires were.

shepherd79
10-20-2006, 06:46 PM
i don't know why, but i think ebay engine ground kits look ugly. they are blue or red. Plus that ugly UFO looking thing on the top of the battery.
IMO, you better of making your own cables.

mkymonkey
10-20-2006, 08:02 PM
i was reading in prelude power and they said that you can put a ground wire on the intake manifold like were the old filter box was.....try it dude....and jason said that a ground to the radiator is good also since it prevents like Ionizing or something.

ACTUALLY, i was just logging on right now to let you guys know that i was being lazy and didnt finish the job quite well. the kit comes with 7 wires. i took my very needed nap, went back and added a wire to the IM, and on the Rad...(i read that online too) and on the starter. ill take pics of them tomorrow and add them to the HOW TO :D


would it also make a difference having a fat positive wire on it?

uh...yep im in the process of ugrading that to a 0ga


did you have to scrape off the gold paint on the contacts?

actually mine didnt come painted. :D


just so happens that i decided to replace a couple of ground wires today myself. coincidence? dunno, but anyway, i measured my ground cable from the battery to the engine block, and the one from the valve cover to the radiator support. bought 2, 4 gauge wires that matched my measurements and installed them in like 5 minutes. starts a little faster, idles a bit smoother. i'm going to order the positive cable from honda probably, but its not really worn out like the ground wires were.

cheap and easy WOOT


i don't know why, but i think ebay engine ground kits look ugly. they are blue or red. Plus that ugly UFO looking thing on the top of the battery.
IMO, you better of making your own cables

yeah but by the time you bought the correct cables it would probably cost the same. you can opt to use the lil ufo thing or not ya know

conozo
10-21-2006, 06:10 AM
...silver is the best...but it cost too much money so they use copper then aluminum....gold is not the best conductor of electricity...

my bad, my gay school taught me the wrong thing again

http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/interconnects/silveraudiocables.php this chart shows whats best

shepherd79
10-22-2006, 05:51 AM
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k263/shepherd79/ground%20kit/DSC00003.jpg (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k263/shepherd79/ground%20kit/DSC00003.jpg)i bought all my wires and connectors in bulk. I had enough to do 5 wires and i still have enough to do positive cables.

Pico
10-22-2006, 11:43 AM
Since mkymonkey posted a how to on this I decided to go ahead and install my ground kit also, later on Im going to upgrade to better cable but this will do for now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/picopop/89%20Accord/Enginegoundkit.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/picopop/89%20Accord/Enginegoundkit4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/picopop/89%20Accord/Enginegoundkit2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/picopop/89%20Accord/Enginegoundkit1.jpg

BITESIZE
10-22-2006, 11:48 AM
i don't know why, but i think ebay engine ground kits look ugly. they are blue or red. Plus that ugly UFO looking thing on the top of the battery.
IMO, you better of making your own cables.


I was thinking the same thing. Ugly as hell.:thumbdn:

Busted_Blue
01-22-2007, 06:55 PM
the problem is it doesnt hide the wires and makes it a visual gore :(

but beyond that good writeup.

skycam_313
01-22-2007, 08:14 PM
ok im lazy.... ne 1 have a link for the ground wires?

shepherd79
01-23-2007, 02:27 AM
here is HOW TO http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55980
and here is ebay: your pick http://motors.search.ebay.com/honda-ground-wires_W0QQfromZR40